Anyone with the new Coldplay album handy or anyone who is familiar with it

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Is the guitar melody on "Talk" COMPLETELY lifted from something that I can't place at the moment or am I insane?

― Nigel (Nigel), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

kraftwerk

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Kraftwerk: "Computer Love"

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

kraftwerk

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Ahhhh, right. Thank you. It's been bugging me all day. Did they get permission?

― Nigel (Nigel), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

co-authorship, in fact.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

kraftwerk

― c/n (Cozen), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

this is the thread where all the coldplay fans out themselves!

― the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

this is the thread where all the kraftwerk fans out themselves, too!

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

i thought it was the thread where we all say kraftwerk. haha, xpost

― tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm a Coldplay fan. Sharpen your knives.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

I heard this track in the bookstore the other day and it bugged the shit out of me, trying to figure out where it was lifted from. I thought it would give me a big sense of relief when I finally figured it out. Instead, it made me very, very sad.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

i never pegged chris martin for a kraftwerk fan.

― the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

If Hitler had listened to Kraftwerk, would he still have killed the Jews or just turned them into robots instead?

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

would that he did!

― the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

X&Y is the best album released since Y2K. Fact.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Coldplay is the best band since B2K. Fact.

― Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

X&Y is the best album released since Y2K. Fact.

it's not even as good as Parachutes so, no

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

i think chris martin has one pretty good song that he keeps rewriting over and over. this only works if you're the ramones, and come to think of it their songs had quite a bit of variety so maybe they're a "red herring" example.

― the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

geir you should review it properly: actually explaiin WHY it's good

(i know you don't actually listen much to the music you talk about, but it would be a good exercise)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

X&Y is the best album released since Y2K. Fact.

You rock!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

Kraftwerk. FACT!

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

...me till I fart.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

X&Y is the best album released since B2K. Fact.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

X&Y is probably better that Will2K. Presumed fact.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

X&Y is not as good as K&G Men's Superstore, though.

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

It's not Kraftwerk, it's Yello

― Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

Jon Stewart outed himself as a Coldplay and Foo Fighters fan tonight. Which seems about right.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

i need to get this record!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

X&Y is the best album released since the first album by Y&T. Fact.

― donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)

X&Y is divisible by The Pop Group's Y, and also by the band X: fact.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

'X'&'Y' = 'X'

Proof:

'X' = 0x58
'Y' = 0x59

01011000 &
01011001
--------
01011000

John Doe should sue. Or the ex-X (Japan) members.

― donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

y&t should get a piece of that action, too.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

http://www.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/4/49/225px-Ykanttoriread.jpg

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

ROFFLE ROFFLE

― THE JAMES DEAN OF THE OLD TESTAMENT (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)

why is the dragon running away from tori's butt?

― the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

cause she farted?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm a Coldplay fan. Sharpen your knives.

Nah, I only get my knives out for Radiohead fans.

― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:54 (twenty years ago)

most unfunny joke ever

― THE JAMES DEAN OF THE OLD TESTAMENT (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

so is anyone going to do y kant tori read/hooked on phonics now?

― the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

On X&Y, the songs are still great (great melodies will always be more important than anything else) while the their music is also having growing ambitions (more "proggy", sort of). Plus the album is less patchy than their previous affairs. Which makes it better than Travis' "The Invisible Band" (which was previously the best album of the 00s)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

geir i want you to say WHY great melodies are great!! you will never persuade anyone (anyone who enjoys reading) that "great melodies will always be more important than anything else" until you address this yawning contradiction at the like the CORE of your aesthetic ---- that when it comes to the most important bit, you always RUN AWAY from duscussing it!!

if i were marking that review as a potential contribution to a mag i was editing, i would say 2/10: could do better

viz "more proggy, sort of" is very feeble, and "less patchy than their previous affairs" is will never sceptics to gather all agog (why not say "previous records"?? "affairs" sounds diffident and dismissive)

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

"is will never sceptics" 1/10: could do better

i meant "will cause never sceptics"

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Geir, how about starting with defining what one uses to measure "great melodies"? I always get the feeling from your posts that this is not a subjective decision...so I'd like to see the calculus to back it up, or an admission that subjective standards don't allow for the grandiose statements that seem to follow them.

I listened to the new Coldplay again (honestly, I'm not close-minded about giving things I don't expect to like a chance.) And I still think it's completely mediocre. What, in your opinion, am I failing to understand? Please be specific.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

"if i were marking that review as a potential contribution to a mag i was editing, i would say 2/10: could do better"

But mark s, we're not all trying to be music journo's.

― dmun drive-in (dmun), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

dmun if i were marking your post as a potential contribution to a logic treatise i was compiling, i would say 0/10: "if A then B" is not refuted to the assertion "not A"

(translation: you REALLY REALLY don't want to encourage me to start marking things just anyway)

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

kraftwerk

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

do YOU like coldplay, mr. sinker?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 June 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

They're both on EMI - would that have to do something with it?

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 30 June 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

kraftwerk

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 5 September 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

actually, cutty, i think it was kraftwerk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 September 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

http://david.davies.name/weblog/images/2004/03/18/Kraftwerk_Man_Machine.jpg

― gear (gear), Monday, 5 September 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

-- Sean Carruthers (oneiro...), June 28th, 2005.

the same exact thing happened to me in barnes & noble a month ago!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 September 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

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