franz ferdinand 'name' second album.

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piscesboy, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

What, are they Seal now?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

But hey, it worked for Weezer.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

peter gabriel to thread

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Small Faces did it first

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Why record an album at all?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

They get paid to do it (xpost)

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

Wow! What a sweet life!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

didn't orbital do something like this too?

i'm not sure whether to hold out any hope for this album or not.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

well the first album was hopeless so it's probably not wise.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh come on, Marcello, "Take Me Out" was great fun.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

yeah.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

i have to think the song "eleanor, put your boots back on" was inspired by ms. friedberger.

rajeev (rajeev), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

Incorrect. "Take Me Out" was two indifferent indie songs fused together to make it appear greater than it actually was. It was a failed attempt to replicate the equally forced, but somehow more natural-looking, bonding of the two separate books which form Gray's Lanark.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

You missed out the fact that it rips off "Trampled Underfoot" something rotten (tho this is a good thing of course)

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

xpost

But none of the fun has anything to do with the fusing of two seperate songs (I'd disagree that this was even the case--the slower part doesn't last long enough or really go anywhere to the extent I would call it an complete song). It's all in the bassline.

Dadaismus OTM but I'd never realised it before. I love it even more now.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

what bassline?

(that's another thing - the record is so badly produced that it's bollock-free)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

its only the riff of trampled underfoot. play the two songs and its not like youd hear take me out and go 'oh thats led zep', well not unless youre really deaf.

anyway, FF have some good songs, some interesting lyrics, and theyre a good band, but they only seem to have 2 riffs at their disposal, and only one song template which they pilfer from repeatedly which makes their album kinda sound like one long megamix with mild variations in between track numbers.

i dont get whats badly produced about it though - its brilliantly produced IMO. clinical sounding, but thats what they were going for i think.

ppp, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

what bassline?

Exactly. It's completely uncomplex and unassuming, but it nonchalently plods along regardless. And I don't think it's badly produced.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Love the cover connections, Nick.

I loved the album, love seeing them live, look forward to new stuff. And I am not ashamed of that.

gspm (gspm), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

well you should be. improve.

f ferdinand records sound as if they'd been shoved up into the corner of the smallest cupboard they could find in the studio, had a ferguson 1970 tape-recorder built-in microphone put about seven feet from the cupboard, and told to get on with it.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

what bassline?

this question/complaint currently applicable to 90% of the music in the charts right now incidentally.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

my problem with FF isn't with their songs; it's with the frenzied devotion that accompanied them, particularly here in glasgow. i went to see them [1] during their three-gig - THREE-GIG! - run at the barrowland and you'd have thought it was the second coming. people going apeshit crazy for a band that seem to have lifted a suspicious number of their ideas from "reel to real cacophony"-era simple minds.

[1] free tickets; mrs fiendish wanted to go, before people accuse me of being a hypocrite.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

This I can agree on, I hate overhype of any band (hence my irrational hatred of the NME), but made a concious effort to ignore it, so it didn't seem so bad to me.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

people going apeshit crazy for a band that seem to have lifted a suspicious number of their ideas from "reel to real cacophony"-era simple minds.

Well, the time for everything certainly comes, right? Simple Minds were ahead of their time maybe.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

"We decided quite a while ago that we didn’t want to give any of the albums titles, they were just going to be called ‘Franz Ferdinand’"

It's... so... beautiful... (silent weeping)

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

"Take Me Out" was the rock single of the decade!!! And the rest of the album was pretty great, too.

I am hoping and praying that this album will be good. Oh sweet Franzies, pleeeeeeeeeeease don't turn into the Strokes.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Incorrect. "Take Me Out" was two indifferent indie songs fused together to make it appear greater than it actually was. It was a failed attempt to replicate the equally forced, but somehow more natural-looking, bonding of the two separate books which form Gray's Lanark.

I was at a college bar a few month ago and it came on and all the college chicks were loving it...dancing and having fun...it sure didn't seem forced or awkward to them (or to me, for that matter)....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

I loved Marcello's comment following up mine, love reading his insight, and look forward to more of his advice. And I am not ashamed of that.

gspm (gspm), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Dibs for mentioning Alasdair Gray in the same breath as Franz F.

KW, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

ILMers' indifference has done nothing to stop Franz Ferdinand it would appear. Haha.

Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

http://members.at.infoseek.co.jp/junn7/neu_1.JPG
http://members.at.infoseek.co.jp/junn7/neu_3.JPG

Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

I was hoping for either of the following:

Everybody Loves Franz Ferdinand
FRNZ FRDNND
More Of The Franz Ferdinand
F&F
Franz Ferdinand Love You
Franz!
Franz Forever
We Can't Be Bothered
Old Franz 4 Sail
Room For Franz
Got Any Franz?
I "Get" Franz Ferdinand

donut e-g (donut), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

I was hoping for Hanz myself.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

Can't Get Enough of That Franz!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

I think it's a good idea when bands don't name their albums or just do it with numbers like Chicago and Led Zeppelin. No one else is really doing it now so why not them.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

I think it's a FANTASTIC idea when bands name their albums Or Just Do It With Numbers Like Chicago and Led Zeppelin.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

Franz Ferdinand's Next
That Darn Franz!

PB, Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

A Franz of Yours Is a Franz of Mine!

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

Tour de Franz

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 30 June 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

Gavrilo's Back

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 30 June 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)

the franz experiment

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

Franz Europe Express

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm Just Franzing You Up, Man

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

(for the benefit of readers in the north of britain)

franzie and josie

http://www.glasgowmuseums.com/assets/slideShows/FraniceJosie%2072dpi.jpg

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 30 June 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

ALL TOGETHER NOW

"Theeeeerrrrrrre's
Partick Cross and Cessnock
Hillheed and Merkland Street
George's Cross and Govan Cross
Where a' the people meet
West Street! Shields Road!
The train goes roond and roond
Ye've nivir lived unless ye've bin oan
The Glesga Undergroond!"

That was another big-selling single in Scotland which mysteriously failed to register in the national charts.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 30 June 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

500,000 Hipsters Can't Be Wrong

nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Thursday, 30 June 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

Franz Kafka
Franz Liszt

LRJP! (LRJP!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

"It was a failed attempt to replicate the equally forced, but somehow more natural-looking, bonding of the two separate books which form Gray's Lanark."

But Lanark Books 1&3 (realist) and 3&4 (dystopian future) work beautifully together. They relate in a way the separate parts of Take Me Out don't. They become more than the sum of their (excellent) parts, suggesting all kinds of possibilities. The sci-fi section comments on many of the themes of the first part and throws up all kinds of questions through its reimagining of the characters and the Glasgow of the first section.

Nice analogy though. FF should get Alasdair Gray to design their sleeve. None of this pseuod-constructivist nonsense - let's have some multi-faceted Blakean murals!

Stew (stew s), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

FRANZIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD

Ahem.

Seriously, this

f ferdinand records sound as if they'd been shoved up into the corner of the smallest cupboard they could find in the studio, had a ferguson 1970 tape-recorder built-in microphone put about seven feet from the cupboard, and told to get on with it.

Actually sounds like it might be an interesting production technique. Lord knows people tire of both the Phil Collins gate-it-till-ya-die sound and ostentatiously analog White Stripesiness, right?

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Franz Don't Let Franz Ferdinand

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Franz Sinatra

joan vich (joan vich), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Are "Franz" Electric?

(& I protest mentioning Lanark in the same breath as Eff Eff.)

etc, Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

actually 'eff eff' is a winner!

piscesboy, Friday, 1 July 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

I guess i'm a little surprised that they haven't gone for the extra mileage of naming each album after a different assassinated world leader...

LRJP! (LRJP!), Friday, 1 July 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

Lanark is arguably the first internet novel. You look at it now with all its authorial notes, difplags/blockplags, intertextuality etc. and it cries out for hyperlinking.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 1 July 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

Ha, brilliant! Cheers Marcello, I think that's my MLitt thesis sorted then...:)

Stew (stew s), Friday, 1 July 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Nonsense, Marcello. Sterne did all that two centuries prior to Lanark.

Ooooooooooooh, Abraham Lincoln!

KW, Saturday, 2 July 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

The new album should look exactly like the last album, but with the colors reversed (light background, black logo).

pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 2 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Lanark is arguably the first internet novel. You look at it now with all its authorial notes, difplags/blockplags, intertextuality etc. and it cries out for hyperlinking.

Hyperlinking sounds like too serious a treatment for it. The authorial notes are firmly tongue-in-cheek - look at the number which cross-reference passages of the book which don't actually exist.

Tech Support Droid (ForestPines), Sunday, 3 July 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
is it really slsk-able? i'm only getting the demos n stuff.

who's heard it?

piscesboy, Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Franz Across America

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 September 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Clap Your Franz Say Yeah

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 September 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

get your franz off my woman, motherfucker

Enrique, naked in an unfamiliar future where corporations run the world... (Enri, Thursday, 8 September 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Franz Ferdinand Meet Fannie Kaplan

Whoever laughs at this becomes my best friend forever. Speaking of which:

BFF With Franz Ferdinand

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

i like the cover
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000B0WODA.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

however, i'm afraid that's all i'm going to like about it.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 9 September 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

Wouldn't It Make It Harder To Download Off The Internet If We Never Changed The Name of Our Album from "Franz Ferdinand"

Cunga (Cunga), Saturday, 10 September 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

?

too late

Cunga (Cunga), Saturday, 10 September 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

yep too late. can i be the first to say it's their ROOM ON FIRE?

i mean i *liked* ROOM ONFIRE don't get me wrong.

piscesboy, Saturday, 10 September 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000024ZUT.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Deluxe (Damian), Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)


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