It's got to be "Angel of Harlem". It's simply appalling.
Discuss. Debate. Argue.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)
"When Love Comes To Town" runs a close second, though.
xpost: Ned, you make me happy...
― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)
*cf tiresome story abt censorship and resignation blah zzz
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)
― van nostrum (Buck Van Smack), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)
My pick: "Pride (In The Name of Love)." Yodeling, the Edge, and martial beats can't hide the fact that there are way too many abstractions for my taste (even in the title!).
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)
Okay, time to close the thread.
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)
I should revise myself a bit - the worst U2 song I've ever heard is called "An American Prayer" and it was performed by Bono a few times at various events between the end of the All That You Can't Leave Behind tour and the beginning of the How To Dismantle sessions. It is just totally pathetic.
For what it's worth, the worst U2 hit is "Walk On."
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)
I like "Angel of Harlem" (to review, "Rattle and Hum" > "The Joshua Tree")
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)
Au contraire, I'd say it was the last listenable single they cut.
Lay off that crack pipe, son.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)
Okay. Surely "Vertigo" rates as his most appalling lyrics to date. For the unsure:
Uno, dos, tres, catorce!
Turn it up loud, captain
Lights go down, it's darkThe jungle is your headCan't rule your heartA feeling's so much stronger thanA thoughtYour eyes are wideAnd though your soulIt can't be boughtYour mind can wander
Hello, Hello (¡Hola!)I'm at a place called Vertigo (¿Dónde esta?)It's everything I wish I didn't knowExcept you give me something i can feel, feel
The night is full of holesAs bullets rip the skyOf ink with goldThey twinkle as theBoys play rock and rollThey know that they can't danceAt least they know...
I can't stand the beatsI'm asking for the chequeThe girl with crimson nailsHas Jesus round her neckSwinging to the musicSwinging to the musicOh, Oh, Oh, Oh,
Hello, Hello (¡Hola!)I'm at a place called Vertigo (¿Dónde Esta?)It's everything I wish I didn't knowBut you give me something I can feel, feel
check it,Just for,you'll need it!(yeah)
All this, all this can be yoursAll of this, all of this can be yoursAll this,all of this can be yoursAll of this, all of this can be yoursJust give me what I want and no one gets hurt...
Hello, Hello (¡Hola!)We're at a place called Vertigo (¿Dónde Esta?)Lights go down and all I knowIs that you give me something
I can feel your love teaching me howYour love is teaching me how, how to kneel, kneel
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah,Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Bastard, Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)
"What [rock critics} basically want is for it to be like 1969 again. It 's this thing where British – or in U2's case, Irish – groups discover the roots of American music. U2 have discovered this and they're just doing pastiches [his voice rises] and it's reviewed as a serious thing because DYLAN PLAYS ORGAN on some song and B.B. King plays o n some throwaway pop song "When Love Comes to Town" that could have been written by Andrew Lloyd Webber. It could be in Starlight Express if you ask me.
...We hate everything that they are and stand for. We hate it because it's totally stultifying, it says nothing, it is big and pompous and ugly. We hate it for exactly the same reasons Johnny Rotten said he hated dinosaur groups in 1976. To me U2 are a dinosaur group. They're saying nothing but they're pretending to be something. I think they're FAKE."
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)
"Lemon" > U2's entire post-Zooropa catalog
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)
*i actually doubt it was much cop as a review, i wz too cross**i wz inordinately proud of this line for years and then i swanked abt it to a pal and she misheard and thought i had said they treated b.b.king like their BUTT-PLUG, and then i wz sad cz i so wish i had ***i too have told this story on another thread
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)
― van nostrum (Buck Van Smack), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)
"Angel of Harlem" still remains the worst.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)
"Walk On" and "Vertigo" are gorgeous; "Angel of Harlem" and "When Love Comes To Town" aren't completely intolerable. "Lemon" is fun.
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)
― John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)
Strained vocals on the chorus, Bono mistaking 'good/poetic' impulses with a reason to do something, overcrowded lumpen deathly dull arrangement under the impression it's moving and energetic (see also any number of late eighties atrocities under the banner of 'rock,' from VH1 hits of the time to college rock faves and many other obscurities), I could go on.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)
Could it be that two versions were released simultaneously, and you are yet to hear the version I'm familiar with, and enjoy?
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)
* of course, one would be justified for hating U2 in general because of those reasons
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)
HOORAY!
That said, possibly no song on Rattle and Hum is more obnoxiously grating in intent than "God Part II." I was looking for something to stab my eardrums with after I first heard that one.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)
But then, as I said on another recent thread, I tend to have more contempt for U2 haters than they usually have for the band and the music.
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)
― John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)
Is it just me, or could "Heartland" have almost been an early Disco Inferno song (provided that Bono's vocals were extracted from the song)?
― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)
I like where you're going with this...
― John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
Can I just say that U2 is terrible in general, from their earliest piles to their current crap? Thanks.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
I mean, maybe it's not great, but worse than fucking "Elevation"?
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
BY LIGHT-YEARS. "Angel Of Harlem" is one of the most inexcuasable pieces of music ever recorded.
(xpost: Geir, what did I tell you about that crack pipe?)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)
― geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)
dude, she doesn't want dry love.
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
Musically, there is so much that's right with "The Sweetest THing" that clunky lyrics don't matter. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING REDEEMABLE about "Angel Of Harlem"; in fact, looking at its component parts only makes the end result that much more offensive, repugnant and horrifying.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)
"new York, like a Christmas tree"that's an idiom, IDIOM!
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)
― paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)
it's funny how neil tennant is completely correct about u2 being bullshit and fake etc. but sadly i still think they made (and occasionally make) good music! as good as the pet shop boys, anyway.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)
Well, I'm sure you don't like it because the beat's ripped off of a PiL song that's all percussion and very little else!
― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)
As for the question, two answers: "Peace on Earth" and "Yahweh".
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 1 July 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 1 July 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)
― JC-L (JC-L), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)
― JC-L (JC-L), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)
― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Saturday, 2 July 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)
At last, I take the bait. David A., this was much discussed here: Is this the part where Greg Kot flies the rockist flag?
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Saturday, 2 July 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)
― David A. (Davant), Monday, 4 July 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)
U2 got the memo around Achtung Baby, but when when they ventured into PSB territory in Pop the strain showed. At THEIR best they're a great arena-rock band, which is nothing to sneeze at.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 4 July 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 4 July 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)
Obituarist, please add to file. "Friends remember him as 'OTM, for the most part.'"
Heck, that makes the shortlist for my headstone!
rogermexico19xx - 20xxHe was OTM, for most part.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 4 July 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)
http://hometown.aol.com/jmann37395/images/flag%20jacket1.jpg
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
Also, at least half of the album "October" is unlistenable, but it's a such a morass of suckitude that individual songs don't really stand out as being especially appalling.
― Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)
― meister, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)
Dr. C hitting the nail firmly on the head: a)songs I still love, b) are dull c) are unbearable (my worse choice “all I want is you”). Still a lot of respect for Edge + Mullin. As a callow youth I bought ‘New Years Day’; it opened up a lot of doors.
― stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)
How any experienced songwriter thinks they can get away with these hackneyed rhymes is beyond me:
I and I In the skyYou make me feel like I can flySo high
Perhaps it was a leftover from The Ironic Period.
― Huey (Huey), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)
I believe this happened toward the end of "Where the Streets Have No Name".
It's too bad that such a moment had to ruin what is otherwise their best ever song.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)
no disagreement there. but you can hate "elvis presley & america," "angel of harlem," AND "when love comes to town" equally as much :)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)