Guns N Roses worst song?

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George Watson (Geordie Watson), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

A toast to "My World":

You wan'da step into my world
It's a sociopsychotic state of bliss
You've been delayed in the real world
How many times have you hit and missed?
You cat-scan shows disfiguration
I wanna laugh myself to death
With a misfired synapse
with a bent configuration
I'll hold the line while you gasp for breath
You wanna talk to me
So talk to me
You wanna talk to me (7 times)
You can't talk to me
You don't understand your sex
You ain't been mindfucked yet
Let's do it (3 times)
Oh my distorted smile


Guess what I'm doing now

Mind you, for a song that thought it was being NIN, it did an incredible job of predicting Limp Bizkit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

I stopped paying attention after G'n'R Lies, so I'm sure there are multiple contenders on the abortive discs that followed.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

"Get In The Ring" or whatever it's called.

van nostrum (Buck Van Smack), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

I almost don't want to vote for "My World" just because it's so fucking hilarious, but everyone knows that has to be the answer. Although I'm a hardcore GNR fan, I don't understand what's wrong with the Illusion discs. Great albums.

Christian, Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

"Get In The Ring" seconded. It has to be a qualifier...I mean, it was dated even by the time it released, let alone now.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

How about "One in a Million"?

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

I like One in a Million. The mindset of the psychotic redneck is very familiar to me, also being from Indiana.

shookout (shookout), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I think 'One In A Million' is an easy target.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

They have worse songs than "One in a Million." Possibly not dumber songs than "One in a Million," but worse songs.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

Ill-advised, certainly. But not bad.

I've never heard "The Spaghetti Incident?"...too afraid...do any of those tracks qualify?

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

I think it was their cover of "Sympathy for the Devil" because of the unnecessarily strong vocals. That always threw it off.

But for Original songs, I'd say "Right Next Door to Hell"

That One Guy (That One Guy), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

I liked the 'Sympathy' cover, meself.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)

The music was good for Sympathy but the the vocals killed it. I never could understand how anyone liked it.

That One Guy (That One Guy), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

"Cos it's good. And stuff."

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

My World
Get in The Ring

Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)

Despite the circumstances of the controversy that surrounds it, as well as the "discriminatory" lyrics, "One In A Million" is still a great song.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)


So Fine (UYI 2) - just really terrible.

JohnFoxxsJuno, Thursday, 30 June 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

"one in a million" is a fantastic song, but we've had this argument before.

worst song on appetite: "anything goes."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 30 June 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

I wish I knew how to post a jpeg here...

until then your unbridled curiosity will have to suffice.

cicatrix, Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

Its not theirs, per se, but their cover of "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" was atrocious. Of their originals, "Get in the Ring" was FAR worse than "My World".

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I think 'One In A Million' is an easy target.

So are "immigrants" and "faggots"

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

"Get In The Ring" was fantastically good fun when I was 12 though.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Sick Mouthy OTM. It reminds me of being a little kid, listening to it with the kid from down the street laughing at the rude words, and then going and... er, best I not mention the next bit as it would derail the thread.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Fucking some music journo in the ass with a dead elephant's tusk?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

ho hum that edward o eh!

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

No! I refuse to say anymore unless YOU ALL RECANT AND DECLARE "GET IN THE RING" TO BE BRILLIANT.

Because it is, y'know. That was pretty much what I posted for, to kill the thread so there will be no more GITR hate, because it is not on, peeps.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Re: One in a Million, on of my favorite posts ever on ILM, by Frank Kogan....

GN'R's "One In A Million" is great; and the racism and homophobia and xenophobia are genuinely racist and homophobic and xenophobic, and his trapdoors and excuses are just copouts, and I don't notice any fictional distance, but more to the point (and unlike in "Criminal" and "Under My Thumb" and lots of others), there's not a lot that's interesting in this song about the way Axl's conflicted over sex roles and race, though I suppose it'd probably be interesting in his life, if you knew him...

So, why is it a great song? Because the melody is totally gorgeous, it's a quiet song that kicks, and it's totally heartbreaking, "Like A Rolling Stone" turned from victory into a lament, a trip from nowhere to nowhere, an escape into a trap: he rides his greyhound into loneliness and confusion, gets police cuffs on his wrists for his trouble, people speak in unknown tongues and have strange sex, and as he reaches for his one-in-a-million woman she fades out on drugs. I'm afraid I'm making it sound maudlin, but the scratch and ache in his voice balance out perfectly, and the voice never stops reaching no matter how despairing the words. And despite itself the song does give some insight into the man's bigotry. Despite the anti-immigrant stuff, Axl's the immigrant from small-town pain-and-shitboy Indiana to the promise of urban freedom, urban Babylon, which turns out to be a new prison, and he doesn't even know the language! So its his fear and disappointment speaking. And no way does this make the bigotry any less bigoted, and I don't find the bigotry challenging to me in any way that I care about, but I do feel for the man in the predicament, expressing himself so well and thinking so poorly.

-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), October 21st, 2004. (Frank Kogan)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

"So Fine" was the one that Duff sang, right? Yeah, that was quite awful. Or "Estranged" - at least "My World" had the decency to be only a minute long. I always thought "Get In The Ring" was pretty funny.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

"Get In The Ring" gets my vote. Not only is it dated because of all the name-calling, but it also has all those stupid sound-effects and "Yowzas!" from Axl. I haven't listened to any of those albums in years, but I can still hum you the [weak] melodies of "So Fine" and "Estranged", but I can't remember anything musical about this song except for a bunch of shouting, some crowd effects, and a fight bell ringing.

I like "My World" just because it's funny to imagine Izzy Stradlin kicking back in the listening room of his Beverly Hills mansion, putting on the completed UYI2 onto the hi-fi and then hearing that for the first time.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Boo! Classifying my world/one in million/get in the ring
as aberrations rather than representative of the GNR catalog
smacks of latent desires to "rescue" the reputation of a band
that neither deserves or needs it.
None of these are significantly worse by any measure than their "best"
songs.

myworldisthebest, Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Boo! Classifying my world/one in million/get in the ring
as aberrations rather than representative of the GNR catalog
smacks of latent desires to "rescue" the reputation of a band
that neither deserves or needs it.
None of these are significantly worse by any measure than their "best"
songs.

How in the heck is My World representative of GnR's catalog? R U DEAF MAN? You've actually heard the album Appetite for Destruction.

Their reputation is as one of the finest rock bands that ever trod the boards, it hardly needs rescueing by us or anyone else.

one in a million doesn't really sound like that much of a gnr song either...it's great, but it's more early 70s stonesy....

get in the ring is kinda like a gnr song, but it doesn't really rock like their good ones.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

So Fine (UYI 2) - just really terrible.

Oh no!!!!

What's with all this sudden Use Your Illusion 2 hatred?????????!??!

billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

i'm gonna say "sympathy for the devil." that was the point at which i had to cut the umbilical cord and let go.

the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

worst gnr original: "the garden."

the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

I like to think of that song as their contribution to Alice's retirement fund.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, dude, "Symphathy" totally wins. I knew there was one really obvious song that I couldn't pinpoint for some reason, but you just totally nailed it.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm surprised no one has brought up "back off bitch" yet. Or "Oh My God," the nearly forgotten contribution to the soundtrack to "end of days"

Niles, Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

That's because "Oh My God" isn't bad.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 1 July 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

Come on, people:
Knock-knock-knocking on heaven's do-woo--woaaarr!!!
[cue telephone conversation]

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 1 July 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

i quite like their version of that. axl rose was mildly obsessed with early '70s outlaw culture for a while there, eh?

the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 1 July 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

[cue telephone conversation]

Gawd, Axl is the King of Not Leaving Well Enough Alone.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 1 July 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

GN'R's "One In A Million" is great; and the racism and homophobia and xenophobia are genuinely racist and homophobic and xenophobic, and his trapdoors and excuses are just copouts, and I don't notice any fictional distance, but more to the point (and unlike in "Criminal" and "Under My Thumb" and lots of others), there's not a lot that's interesting in this song about the way Axl's conflicted over sex roles and race, though I suppose it'd probably be interesting in his life, if you knew him...

So, why is it a great song? Because the melody is totally gorgeous, it's a quiet song that kicks, and it's totally heartbreaking, "Like A Rolling Stone" turned from victory into a lament, a trip from nowhere to nowhere, an escape into a trap: he rides his greyhound into loneliness and confusion, gets police cuffs on his wrists for his trouble, people speak in unknown tongues and have strange sex, and as he reaches for his one-in-a-million woman she fades out on drugs. I'm afraid I'm making it sound maudlin, but the scratch and ache in his voice balance out perfectly, and the voice never stops reaching no matter how despairing the words. And despite itself the song does give some insight into the man's bigotry. Despite the anti-immigrant stuff, Axl's the immigrant from small-town pain-and-shitboy Indiana to the promise of urban freedom, urban Babylon, which turns out to be a new prison, and he doesn't even know the language! So its his fear and disappointment speaking. And no way does this make the bigotry any less bigoted, and I don't find the bigotry challenging to me in any way that I care about, but I do feel for the man in the predicament, expressing himself so well and thinking so poorly.

Um, there is no girl in this song. The fictional distance is in the chorus, where Axl addresses the protagonist (Axl too?) The chorus is either an ironic critique of the protagonist's pitiful confusion or an empathetic appreciation of his humanity or both. Besides that, I agree. Rules.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 1 July 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Joe, that's an interesting interpretation, but I don't see how to make it work. For one thing, since at least the '60s the convention has been that when someone addresses someone else as "babe," there are romantic overtones, and given that the song has homophobic overtones, undertones, and right-in-the-middle tones, I can assume that he's addressing a female. Also, I can't imagine Axl addressing himself when he says that "You know we tried to reach you but you were much too high." And there's no question that Axl sees himself (or at least wants us to see him) as the protagonist. So no, I don't think the chorus is addressing the protagonist. (The only way it could is if the chorus is narrated by friends or lovers of Axl, but there's absolutely nothing in the song that signals a change in narrator, much less that the chorus is addressing Axl. I mean, it's not utterly completely impossible that in creating the chorus Axl thinks he's switching it to someone else addressing him, but if so, he's done nothing to clue the listener in on the switch.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 2 July 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

shotgun blues

rxl aose, Saturday, 2 July 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm only assuming there wasn't thirty immediate replies of November Rain because that would be too obvious, right?

Huey (Huey), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

"Chinese Democracy," the title track from their new album. duh!

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 2 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

hmmm,
i have a problem with both illusion records, mainly due to that really unorganic sounding production. some of the songwriting is great, however (civil war, breakdown, locomotion, double talkin' jive, don't damn me etc.)

worst gnr tracks from first four records:

shotgun blues (throwaway fluff)
my world (misplaced and self indulgent)
knockin' on heaven's door ('AY AY AYAYEAH' excruciating - who puts a singalong style hoedown on a studio recording?)
you ain't the first (they really should be putting their acoustic guitars aside)
bad apples (rose as it his most unbearably obnoxious)

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 11:07 (eighteen years ago)

AY AY AYAYEAH' excruciating - who puts a singalong style hoedown on a studio recording?

Not to mention making the word 'door' sound like DOOHAAWOOOAH.

onimo, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

gnr version of knockin' on heavens door is a guilty pleasure of mine

i could give a shit about any gnr besides 'appetite'

latebloomer, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

Lyrically "One In a Million". But, really, their awful version of "Knocking On Heaven's Door" cannot be beaten here.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

From Appetite, I can't stand "Paradise City".

But "Get In the Ring" and "Heaven's Door" are still the worst for me.

Ain't it fun.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

hmmm, I didn't see this hatred for Knockin' On Heaven's Door coming. For one thing, the live versions are spectacular-- expanding on what Dylan did almost as well as Hendrix did with Watchtower. The studio version pales in comparison, but Slash's first solo is a masterpiece.

My World is terrible, but it's also basically a studio fuckoff, and not really very song-y. I'd vote for either the nuGNR mess of Silkworms or UYI's Shotgun Blues.

Get in the Ring isn't very good, but the riff is GREAT, so great that it's out of consideration as the worst GNR.

As an aside, the previous poster who still hasn't listened to "The Spaghetti Incident?" is doing himself a disservice. It's even a great record for people who don't like GNR.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

Despite the anti-immigrant stuff, Axl's the immigrant from small-town pain-and-shitboy Indiana to the promise of urban freedom, urban Babylon, which turns out to be a new prison, and he doesn't even know the language! So its his fear and disappointment speaking.

Yeah, this is something I've been trying to articulate for years about this song.

Eazy, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

You Ain't The First rules, man!

The answer: "November Rain"

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 11 October 2007 05:53 (eighteen years ago)

i think i said something to that effect about november rain in the distant past and was shouted down. good luck.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 11 October 2007 06:24 (eighteen years ago)

november rain is a great song, it's just that i don't care to hear it ever again

Charlie Howard, Friday, 12 October 2007 05:48 (eighteen years ago)

I'm with PP on "Paradise City," which seems to be everywhere these days. I could stand never hearing it again in my next 10 lifetimes, though I'd be happy to hear "Sweet Child" right now.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

'Get In The Ring' is a work of genius.

It's Axl & Guns being EXACTLY what a rock band should be - cocky, vindictive, petty asshats.

They are gods and these journalist cockroaches should just flip on their backs and die. Or something like that.

mei, Friday, 12 October 2007 12:20 (eighteen years ago)

"You Could Be Mine" - gah.

sw00ds, Friday, 12 October 2007 12:27 (eighteen years ago)

fourteen years pass...

Nice piece on that video.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dypwea/the-untold-story-of-guns-n-roses-november-rain-music-video-wedding-cake-jump

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 April 2022 18:01 (four years ago)

one year passes...

“The General” just dropped. This is the crap fans have been clamoring for over the last 20 years? My god.

On the upside, “Now and Then” is no longer the most embarrassing new track I’ve encountered this year

beamish13, Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:38 (two years ago)


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