― George Watson (Geordie Watson), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)
You wan'da step into my worldIt's a sociopsychotic state of blissYou've been delayed in the real worldHow many times have you hit and missed?You cat-scan shows disfigurationI wanna laugh myself to deathWith a misfired synapsewith a bent configurationI'll hold the line while you gasp for breathYou wanna talk to meSo talk to meYou wanna talk to me (7 times)You can't talk to meYou don't understand your sexYou ain't been mindfucked yetLet's do it (3 times)Oh my distorted smile
Guess what I'm doing now
Mind you, for a song that thought it was being NIN, it did an incredible job of predicting Limp Bizkit.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)
― van nostrum (Buck Van Smack), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)
― Christian, Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)
― Joe (Joe), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)
I've never heard "The Spaghetti Incident?"...too afraid...do any of those tracks qualify?
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)
But for Original songs, I'd say "Right Next Door to Hell"
― That One Guy (That One Guy), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)
― That One Guy (That One Guy), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)
― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)
― JohnFoxxsJuno, Thursday, 30 June 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)
worst song on appetite: "anything goes."
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 30 June 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)
until then your unbridled curiosity will have to suffice.
― cicatrix, Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)
― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
So are "immigrants" and "faggots"
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)
Because it is, y'know. That was pretty much what I posted for, to kill the thread so there will be no more GITR hate, because it is not on, peeps.
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
GN'R's "One In A Million" is great; and the racism and homophobia and xenophobia are genuinely racist and homophobic and xenophobic, and his trapdoors and excuses are just copouts, and I don't notice any fictional distance, but more to the point (and unlike in "Criminal" and "Under My Thumb" and lots of others), there's not a lot that's interesting in this song about the way Axl's conflicted over sex roles and race, though I suppose it'd probably be interesting in his life, if you knew him...
So, why is it a great song? Because the melody is totally gorgeous, it's a quiet song that kicks, and it's totally heartbreaking, "Like A Rolling Stone" turned from victory into a lament, a trip from nowhere to nowhere, an escape into a trap: he rides his greyhound into loneliness and confusion, gets police cuffs on his wrists for his trouble, people speak in unknown tongues and have strange sex, and as he reaches for his one-in-a-million woman she fades out on drugs. I'm afraid I'm making it sound maudlin, but the scratch and ache in his voice balance out perfectly, and the voice never stops reaching no matter how despairing the words. And despite itself the song does give some insight into the man's bigotry. Despite the anti-immigrant stuff, Axl's the immigrant from small-town pain-and-shitboy Indiana to the promise of urban freedom, urban Babylon, which turns out to be a new prison, and he doesn't even know the language! So its his fear and disappointment speaking. And no way does this make the bigotry any less bigoted, and I don't find the bigotry challenging to me in any way that I care about, but I do feel for the man in the predicament, expressing himself so well and thinking so poorly.
-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), October 21st, 2004. (Frank Kogan)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)
I like "My World" just because it's funny to imagine Izzy Stradlin kicking back in the listening room of his Beverly Hills mansion, putting on the completed UYI2 onto the hi-fi and then hearing that for the first time.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
― myworldisthebest, Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)
How in the heck is My World representative of GnR's catalog? R U DEAF MAN? You've actually heard the album Appetite for Destruction.
Their reputation is as one of the finest rock bands that ever trod the boards, it hardly needs rescueing by us or anyone else.
one in a million doesn't really sound like that much of a gnr song either...it's great, but it's more early 70s stonesy....
get in the ring is kinda like a gnr song, but it doesn't really rock like their good ones.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)
Oh no!!!!
What's with all this sudden Use Your Illusion 2 hatred?????????!??!
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
― the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)
― the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― Niles, Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 1 July 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 1 July 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)
― the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 1 July 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)
Gawd, Axl is the King of Not Leaving Well Enough Alone.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 1 July 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
Um, there is no girl in this song. The fictional distance is in the chorus, where Axl addresses the protagonist (Axl too?) The chorus is either an ironic critique of the protagonist's pitiful confusion or an empathetic appreciation of his humanity or both. Besides that, I agree. Rules.
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 1 July 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 2 July 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)
― rxl aose, Saturday, 2 July 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)
― Huey (Huey), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 2 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
hmmm, i have a problem with both illusion records, mainly due to that really unorganic sounding production. some of the songwriting is great, however (civil war, breakdown, locomotion, double talkin' jive, don't damn me etc.)
worst gnr tracks from first four records:
shotgun blues (throwaway fluff) my world (misplaced and self indulgent) knockin' on heaven's door ('AY AY AYAYEAH' excruciating - who puts a singalong style hoedown on a studio recording?) you ain't the first (they really should be putting their acoustic guitars aside) bad apples (rose as it his most unbearably obnoxious)
― Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 11:07 (eighteen years ago)
AY AY AYAYEAH' excruciating - who puts a singalong style hoedown on a studio recording?
Not to mention making the word 'door' sound like DOOHAAWOOOAH.
― onimo, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)
gnr version of knockin' on heavens door is a guilty pleasure of mine
i could give a shit about any gnr besides 'appetite'
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)
Lyrically "One In a Million". But, really, their awful version of "Knocking On Heaven's Door" cannot be beaten here.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)
From Appetite, I can't stand "Paradise City".
But "Get In the Ring" and "Heaven's Door" are still the worst for me.
Ain't it fun.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)
hmmm, I didn't see this hatred for Knockin' On Heaven's Door coming. For one thing, the live versions are spectacular-- expanding on what Dylan did almost as well as Hendrix did with Watchtower. The studio version pales in comparison, but Slash's first solo is a masterpiece.
My World is terrible, but it's also basically a studio fuckoff, and not really very song-y. I'd vote for either the nuGNR mess of Silkworms or UYI's Shotgun Blues.
Get in the Ring isn't very good, but the riff is GREAT, so great that it's out of consideration as the worst GNR.
As an aside, the previous poster who still hasn't listened to "The Spaghetti Incident?" is doing himself a disservice. It's even a great record for people who don't like GNR.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)
Despite the anti-immigrant stuff, Axl's the immigrant from small-town pain-and-shitboy Indiana to the promise of urban freedom, urban Babylon, which turns out to be a new prison, and he doesn't even know the language! So its his fear and disappointment speaking.
Yeah, this is something I've been trying to articulate for years about this song.
― Eazy, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)
You Ain't The First rules, man!
The answer: "November Rain"
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 11 October 2007 05:53 (eighteen years ago)
i think i said something to that effect about november rain in the distant past and was shouted down. good luck.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 11 October 2007 06:24 (eighteen years ago)
november rain is a great song, it's just that i don't care to hear it ever again
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 12 October 2007 05:48 (eighteen years ago)
I'm with PP on "Paradise City," which seems to be everywhere these days. I could stand never hearing it again in my next 10 lifetimes, though I'd be happy to hear "Sweet Child" right now.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)
'Get In The Ring' is a work of genius.
It's Axl & Guns being EXACTLY what a rock band should be - cocky, vindictive, petty asshats.
They are gods and these journalist cockroaches should just flip on their backs and die. Or something like that.
― mei, Friday, 12 October 2007 12:20 (eighteen years ago)
"You Could Be Mine" - gah.
― sw00ds, Friday, 12 October 2007 12:27 (eighteen years ago)
Nice piece on that video.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/dypwea/the-untold-story-of-guns-n-roses-november-rain-music-video-wedding-cake-jump
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 April 2022 18:01 (four years ago)
“The General” just dropped. This is the crap fans have been clamoring for over the last 20 years? My god.
On the upside, “Now and Then” is no longer the most embarrassing new track I’ve encountered this year
― beamish13, Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:38 (two years ago)