Dave Gilmour says all bands and labels should donate Live8 profit

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Artists and record firms who have seen album sales soar after Live 8 should donate their profits to charity, Pink Floyd star Dave Gilmour has said.

"I will not profit from the concert," the guitarist said. "This is money that should be used to save lives."

Lib Dem culture spokesman Don Foster said performers should donate "the profits that Live 8 helped to create".

Universal Music said it would give its profits from digital downloads of Sir Paul McCartney's performance to Live 8.

"One hundred per cent of the revenues we receive from the downloaded tracks will be passed on to the Band Aid trust," said a company representative.

Live 8's spokesman was currently unavailable for comment.

'Gesture'

Pink Floyd guitarist Gilmour urged artists and record companies to make a charitable donation off the back of Saturday's landmark global concerts.

"Though the main objective has been to raise consciousness and put pressure on the G8 leaders, I will not profit from the concert," he said in a statement.

"If other artists feel like donating their extra royalties to charity, perhaps then the record companies could be persuaded to make a similar gesture and that would be a bonus."


LIVE 8 STARS' ALBUMS BOOST
1 Pink Floyd - Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd - 1343%
2 The Who - Then and Now - 863%
3 Annie Lennox - Eurythmics Greatest Hits - 500%
4 Dido - Life For Rent - 412%
5 Razorlight - Up All Night - 335%
6 Robbie Williams - Greatest Hits - 320%
7 Joss Stone - Mind, Body and Soul - 309%
8 Sting - The Very Best of Sting & The Police - 300%
9 Travis - Singles - 268%
10 Madonna - Immaculate Collection - 200%
Source: HMV

Pink Floyd are one of several participants who have seen sales rocket in the aftermath of Live 8.

Sales of Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd rose 1,343% on Sunday - compared to sales for the previous Sunday - while The Who's Then and Now increased by 863%, according to music retailer HMV.

Not every act has benefited, however. Pete Doherty's former band The Libertines saw sales of their Up the Bracket album drop by 35%.

Sir Paul McCartney's rendition of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band with U2 topped the iTunes chart in several countries after being made available to download an hour after its performance.

The former Beatle's performances of Hey Jude and The Long and Winding Road can also be obtained online.

"The artists showed huge generosity and compassion this weekend," said Lib Dem Don Foster.

"Now they should continue to show their goodwill by donating the profits that Live 8 helped to create."

Travis
Travis will be among performers at the final Live 8 concert in Edinburgh
The final Live 8 concert, called The Final Push, takes place in Edinburgh's Murrayfield Stadium on Wednesday, with performers including Travis, Texas, Sugababes and Ronan Keating.

The free concert has been staged to coincide with the Long Walk to Justice rally in the city.

Organiser Bob Geldof was joined by Hollywood acting couple Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon as he boarded a train to Edinburgh from London's Euston station on Tuesday to join the rally.

Wednesday's Live 8 concert will be broadcast on television by BBC Scotland, on radio and online.

However pirate Live 8 DVDs were found on sale on eBay less than 24 hours after Saturday's event and removed shortly afterwards.

"The people that do this are cretins and scum," said Bob Geldof's spokesman.

"Sadly, we are not at all surprised by this incident," said David Martin, the British Phonographic Industry's director of anti-piracy.

"There are too many people out there who believe music is for stealing, regardless of the wishes of artists and the people who invest in them."

Meanwhile, P Diddy has apologised for failing to turn up at the Philadelphia Live 8 concert on Saturday, where he had been scheduled to perform.

His spokesman said the rap star "totally supports the mission of Live 8 and is sorry he couldn't attend" - but did not give a reason for his absence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4651309.stm

Ralfie, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Not every act has benefited, however. Pete Doherty's former band The Libertines saw sales of their Up the Bracket album drop by 35%.

Ha - I was just wondering if this had happened to anyone. Should Africans compensate the Libertines accordingly?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

Umm, that's nice for Dave Gilmore, but not all the other artists are without "hand to mouth" existances.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

"I will not profit from the concert," the guitarist said. "This is money that should be used to save lives."

While I do appreciate his sentiment, if Pink Floyd does a reunion tour, all future money made will in someway be touched by the fact that they first publicized the reunion at Live8.

I'm kind of intrigued by this line: Universal Music said it would give its profits from digital downloads of Sir Paul McCartney's performance to Live 8. As I'm not sure what Live8 would do with the money, as they've never asked for any before.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

Well, the revenue raised from the text messages blah etc.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

What Gilmour said was admirable - I can't think of many Live8 performers who are struggling artistes and maybe this will guilt them into giving at least some payback for the massive free publicity which was the main reason for holding the event.

I'm sure Live8 will think up something to do with the money once it starts arriving. The fact that they haven't got a clue what they're doing from one minute to the next is probably down to the fact that this was just a big ego-wank for that cunt Geldof rapidly changing political situation.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

Any figures for Mariah Carey album sales yet?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

It's going top ten, and her new single is #2 midweek, possibly on the verge of #1.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

"Umm, that's nice for Dave Gilmore, but not all the other artists are without "hand to mouth" existances."

Otoh if it's money they wouldn't otherwise have earned - and after all, I doubt if any of the artists who appeared are living an existence that's quite as "hand to mouth" as the average inhabitant of Ethiopia, Eritrea, Kenya, Somalia, Sudan....

(of course if anyone can come up with an empirical method of identifying the amount of income that any of the participants would otherwise have earned, so as to differentiate that from the additional earnings generated as a direct result of their appearance, I'd be fascinated to hear it; and I can't help but wonder how Dave Gilmour's proposing to do it).

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Specifically, Mariah's album's #7 in the midweeks.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

Number 12 in the list, up 170%.

I posted the full list in the other thread, just before this one was started.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

I guess Gilmour's thinking is that the 1300-odd percent increase is down to Live8. I wouldn't have thought it would be difficult for those bright music industry accountants to work out what sort of figure that would represent.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Well, upon reading the story, I see he's not actually suggesting all artists donate all increases to live-8.

No, stew, obv not compared to the Somaliam, more compared to Gilmore.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

1. Pink Floyd ‘Echoes - Best Of’ 1343%
2. The Who ‘Then & Now’ 863%
3. Annie Lennox ‘Eurythmics Greatest Hits’ 500%
4. Dido ‘Life for Rent’ 412%
5. Razorlight ‘Up all Night’ 335%
6. Robbie Williams ‘Greatest Hits’ 320%
7. Joss Stone ‘Mind, Body & Soul’ 309%
8. Sting ‘Greatest Hits’ 300%
9. Travis ‘Singles’ 268%
10. Madonna ‘Immaculate Collection’ 200%
11. Scissor Sisters ‘Scissor Sisters’ 174%
12. Mariah Carey ‘Greatest Hits’ 170%
13. Snoop Dogg ‘Rhythm & Gangsta’ 166%
14. The Killers ‘Hot Fuss’ 131%
15. U2 ‘Best Of: 1990 – 2000’ 116%
16. Elton John ‘Greatest Hits 1970 – 2002’ 111%
17. Keane ‘Hopes & Fears’ 101%
18. The Beatles ‘Number 1s’ 71%
19. Snow Patrol ‘Final Straw’ 69%
20. REM ‘Reveal’ 50%
21. Stereophonics ‘Language, Sex, Violence, Other’ 36%
22. Coldplay ‘X&Y’ 3%
23. The Libertines ‘Up The Bracket’ -35%

Ralfie, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

so it worked for mariah but not for adam ant.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

in the thread title you missed out the last two words: "to Syd."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Pete Doherty's dealer in "sues Geldof for loss of earnings" shockah.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

also

- bear in mind HMV/virgin are selling all these at knock down prices at the moment ..

i mean all RW's albums are currently a fiver ..

so thats going to sway the last remaining few as well as Live8 success or otherwise ..

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh no - proof that the Killers are better than U2, Elton John, REM, and the Beatles.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

you mean they're not?

(mark e xpost)

ah yes - i see the wall, dark side and wish you were here have all suddenly been appended to the hmv sale. crafty.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and about that chart: What about the "Libertines" album, not the first one?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

there's a copy of that in mve berwick street (with bonus dvd) that's been going for a fiver for the best part of a month and no one's bought it yet.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

Tesco somewhat cynically have a page of Live8 special offers. Hooray for Tesco, friend of small farmers everywhere.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

you notice of course that it's the old cd issue of dark side that's being discounted, not the remixed 30th anniversary one which continues to retail in hmv for £20.99...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

floyd must be the only act other than the beatles whose back catalogue doesn't retail at mid-price. silly really - is it an emi thing? seeing as plentiful copies of the wall are available in the mve bargain basement for a couple of quid, it's a bit much asking £30 for a new copy.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

re EMI PF/Beatles .. i've always wondered about this myself.

did i once read that the reason Beatles never do the mid price thing is down to a request from the band members themselves ?

along with the fact that the Red and Blue cd versions are still packaged as double cds as opposed to putting out single disc versions

ie maintaining the sanctity of the product ?

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Yeah - fits in with them allowing their recordings to be used on soundtracks, I guess (except for 'All You Need Is Love' at the end of The Prisoner, I seem to remember - maybe that was before they implemented their policy. It's a nice exception, anyway).

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

i think with the beatles, it's just well-meaning apple management playing silly buggers. re. the prisoner: they were fans and they used samples from the soundtrack on some of their xmas fan club discs so i guess they were just returning the favour.

don't get it with the floyd, though. there's no real reason why even things like piper and saucerful should still be retailing at 14 quid, unless it's to ensure that syd gets a bigger cut of the profits. who knows?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Pink Floyd (who I now hear are actually really, really gearing to reunite) should do a charity tour, like the Smashing Pumpkins did. Especially since Gilmour has claimed the charity aspect is what it took for he and Roger to bury the hatchet for a few songs.

I remember after September 11, Rosie O'Donnell (of all people) hit up her celebrity friends for $1 million dollars each to give to charity, and virtually nil ponied up. It's in this regard that I think Bono deserves more credit than people generally give him. He actually donates a great deal of his (valuable, I suppose) time to lobbying. Meeting with world leaders and/or Oprah may not seem like much, but I think he did a great deal of good talking about the eradication of international debt for impoverished nations. I mean, the WTO didn't just decide to do this all out of the goodness of their hearts, right? There had to have been some kind of mounting pressure courtesy their constituencies.

All these other opportunistic Live8 choads seem to vanish or go mute for years at a time, and while they may be out feeding babies in Africa, I somehow doubt it.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

To their credit, not many of the performers did their latest single, or whatever you would normally expect them to be promoting.

Well, Coldplay didn't. Or did they? I was disappointed in a way, I like their latest hit single, I find it quite rousing. And neither did Joss Stone, I think, although I harrumphed when I saw her album being advertised on the telly the next day.

I did not know there was a Best of Sting and The Police at the same time. What an excellent marketing gimmick.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

floyd must be the only act other than the beatles whose back catalogue doesn't retail at mid-price

it does in the US!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Pink Floyd (who I now hear are actually really, really gearing to reunite)

where did you hear this?

although this leads some credence to it....

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

All the Floyd single albums are perpetually £7.99 in the HMV sale.

How did Dido get more popular? Even the tone-deafest of the tone-deaf were surely sent running for cover by her live 'singing'. Mybe her appearence has reminded a nation of mums to dig out 'No Angel' from the depths of their people-movers. But they couldn't find it among the crisp packets and wet-wipes, so bought new copies instead. Just a suggestion?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Doherty is incredibly talentless and useless. This was confirmed when I saw his band on Popworld the next day.

Hi, Doc!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

He's not useless, he keeps a lot of journalists and photographers busy

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

re: Doherty is incredibly talentless and useless

New single is the biggest pile of shambolic amateur rubbish ever released.

Yet NME and 6 Music churn out the media coverage every soddin week.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Hi, Martian!

It is nice to agree.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Hi PF!!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

"I guess Gilmour's thinking is that the 1300-odd percent increase is down to Live8. I wouldn't have thought it would be difficult for those bright music industry accountants to work out what sort of figure that would represent."

That's all fair and dandy for starters, but then how long do you continue this for (i.e. how many weeks do you expect the Live 8 apearance to effect sales for) and what do you use a base (i.e. the theoretical sales that would have been achieved without the influence of Live 8) for later weeks?

There's a diminishing effect to be considered over the passage of time; but there's also a compounding effect as some of the people who wouldn't otherwise have bought Echoes find that they like it and move on to buy Dark Side Of The Moon and Wish You Were Here and Animals and Meddle and The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn?

If the band decide to reunite for a full tour on the back of this, interest in the band will have increased so ticket sales will increase, programme sales will increase, T-shirt sales will increase so the initial effect will be boosted and re-compounded....

Easy enough to adopt a simplistic approach if the objective is to make a gesture; but if you really genuinely wanted to do this exercise properly it would not be simple by any means.

A dim non music-industry accountant (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

My brother once wrote a song called "Billie Piper At The Gates Of Hell". He likes her now she's in Dr Who.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Funnily enough, this just occurred to me:

Dave Gilmore was 'involved' in the Reading Am-aid (basically amateur bands putting on a live-aid spectacular, back 20 years ago minus a couple months).

I remember the programme had his autog printed in the inside cover, along with Sam Fox and some other more minor celebs. Presumably so they wouldn't get hassled on the day by autog hunters. (A more effective way was not actually turning up of course)

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

The band I was in in 1985 (West One) did quite a bit of fund raising for Live Aid, and I don't remember "Reading Am Aid" at all - which local bands were involved in that?

And why weren't we invited?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I have theprogramme,somewhere around. If I find it, I'll scan andsend...

bluddy spacebar!

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

floyd must be the only act other than the beatles whose back catalogue doesn't retail at mid-price

it does in the US!

This weekend I bought The Piper at the Gates of Dawn for $17.99 at, um, Barnes & Noble. And no, I'm not happy with myself. And at B&N and Best Buy, I noticed that every Beatles album was priced around $15.99.

PB, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

news is they have turned down a 150 million dollar offer to tour the US.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Dave Gilmour sell his house and give the money to Shelter (UK charity for the homeless)? I imagine he doesn't exactly need any more money for himself.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/news/0404184.html

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

"news is they have turned down a 150 million dollar offer to tour the US."

Perhaps they should do it and give the money to Live 8?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

Apparently The Who and Paul McCartney have now said they're going to give all their additional profits to charity too.

Sorry for the quality of the source but it's the only place I could find the story on-line: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005310119,00.html

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

And Annie Lennocks.

What is 1343% of fuck bugger all?

I noticed during that performance that Pete Doherty is a bit flabby round the midriff.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

"I have theprogramme,somewhere around. If I find it, I'll scan andsend..."

Thanks Mark, that would be interesting if only for the memories it will inevitably evoke.

I suspect it may be a little too late to protest about the omission of West One from the proceedings 'though.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Believe me, you were probably lucky.

(nearly typed clucky there)

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

Did you appear / attend Mr. G?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

No, my band had split by then, although a friends band did (forget the name, imagine "King" style funkpop) so me and our old drummer went, paid on the door, hung around for an hour, got lonely, went off...

Rumour had it that Aswad (in town for a record signing at "Listen") and/or the Pogues (playing that evening at the uni) played a short set inpromteau like, but that maybe total bol. Mungo Jerry (I believe) were the 'headline act', but who hung around long enough to see, I don't know. history proves with this kind of thing, people hang around for their mates' band(s) and then leave...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

"imagine "King" style funkpop"

No wonder they didn't want West One!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

Where did this take place? I do have a vague recollection of something at Forbury Gardens....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

And so yet another thread inexplicably managed to turn into one about local Reading bands 1976-1996....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/insiders/guides/articles/19723914?source=Daily%20Mail

We've done our bit (although not very much) say Razorlight, so we're pocketing the cash.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

That impassioned speech by Johnny "Brown" Borrell showed some incisive, er, thinking about, like, the issues at stake and that, innit?

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

well they'll probably need the money in about six months' time when their career ends...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

LOL! Did you follow the link to the story about Battle of backstage egos?

(x-post)

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

I felt slightly unclean just reading that.

MIS Information (kate), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

"And there were even more who tried but failed to get in, including Celebrity Love Island 'star' PAUL DANAN and comic JIMMY CARR."

*that's* global justice.


N_RQ, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

are there any pictures perchance of said j. carr having the smug shit kicked out of him by the kollektive of minders? it would be a highly pleasing visual counterpart to my imminent lunch.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if he made an amusingly deadpan quip as he walked his sorry arse away from his social betters.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

A spokesman for Keane said: 'Echoing Pink Floyd, we will make sure we don't profit from Live8.'

Echoing Pink Floyd! Get it?

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

A spokesman for Pete Doherty said: "Echoing Keane echoing Pink Floyd, he will make sure he doesn't profit from Live8".

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

.. as he's spent his already.

anyhow, I wondered previously, when they have these "what's on your Ipod" celeb pages in the music mags, howcome everybody has one.

Blimey, Keane must have about 60 by now.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

as opposed to the zero ipods which i own.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)


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