Blur - Leisure C or D?

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US Tracklisting: Somewhat in the middle
UK Tracklisting: Classic up the wazoo

That One Guy (That One Guy), Friday, 8 July 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)

Huge classic. My favorite album of theirs, actually. I can't understand why it's so roundly derided. I also quite like Modern Life is Rubbish. As far as I'm concerned, it all started to go swiftly downhill circa Parklife.

"Popscene" was a great single as well (to say nothing of its brilliant b-side, "Mace").

I miss early Blur.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 July 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

That's a correct highschool album. I like a few songs from the album, but overall that was just an encouraging debut.
'There's No Other Way' is really a huge classic, though.

zeus, Friday, 8 July 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

Alex otm regarding "Popscene." As a mildly diverting post-Manchester album Leisure is just ok, but more listenable than The Great Escape.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 8 July 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

I've never been particularly fond of Liesure, though I really love the song "Repetition." "She's So High," "There's No Other Way," "Bang," "Sing," and "I Know" are okay, but really not much compared to the music that would come later on. I generally think of it as being Blur's awkward demo phase, and that they don't really become Blur until Modern Life Is Rubbish.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 8 July 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

Blur >> Parklife > The Great Escape > 13 > Modern Life Is Rubbish > Think Tank >>>>> Liesure

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 8 July 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

im mostly with matthew...damn fine start...

i think liesure, modern life, and park life had a permanent place in my 5 cd changer for a good year in 94. and the singles (i paid good import prices for at the time) moved in and out of the stack next to it. "day upon day" and "innertia" have permanent places in my heart.

criminal to leave out "sing" over here.

listening for the 1st time in ages a year or so ago, i was really struck by how good graham already was. theres some very clever production (by mr street) that allows several, almost simple, guitar tracks to come together with a space and texture that the more proper shoegazer bands ignored in favor of a grander lushness or (in the case of ride's "when dreams burn down") grandness.

sure the general song structures and just about everything improved....but nothing else really sounds like leisure

b b, Friday, 8 July 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

Hmm... Leisure is better than Think Tank, that's for sure.

zeus, Friday, 8 July 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

what's the difference between the UK and US versions?

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 July 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

uhhh...dud?

I mean yeah, "She's So High," "There's No Other Way" & "Sing" are all classics, but that's about it. "Bang!" and "I Know" are passable 5th-tier Madchester, the rest is utter dreck.

the US version has a different running order (shuffles the singles towards the top) and lops off "Sing" for some reason.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 8 July 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

UK Vers: Classic for "Sing" alone!
US Vers: Eh...still a better debut than Pablo Honey.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 8 July 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Pablo Honey >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leisure

I'd probably rather listen to PH than MLiR, for that matter.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 8 July 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Classic. I don't listen to Blur much anymore, but I do still listen to the good songs from Leisure and a bootleg B-Sides comp I got back in 1997 or so. I mostly skip anything from 13 or MLiR.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 8 July 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

I mean yeah, "She's So High," "There's No Other Way" & "Sing" are all classics, but that's about it. "Bang!" and "I Know" are passable 5th-tier Madchester, the rest is utter dreck.

Hugely OTM.
I didn't know that "Sing" was left off the US version ... that's nuts, since it's the best song on the album and one of the best four or five Blur songs ever.

Parklife > MLIR > Blur > 13 > Great Escape > Leisure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think Tank

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 8 July 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

On second thought, I'd alter
"Bang!" and "I Know" are passable 5th-tier Madchester, the rest is utter dreck.

to

"Bang!" and "I Know" are utter dreck, the rest is passable 3rd-tier shoegaze.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 8 July 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

can anyone xplain why the hell 13 keeps ranking so low 'round here?

seriously

b b, Friday, 8 July 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I really like 13 a lot, it's just that I like three Blur albums a bit more. Liesure is the only Blur album I can't fully endorse - the other six are all really good.

Wow, no love for "Repetition" at all? I think that's Albarn's first great song.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 8 July 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

There are some great songs on there but they feel a bit hamstrung by the production, looking back [imho]; though 'Sing' especially always stood out so well, and so strangely. When it turned up again on Traispotting's soundtrack years later it sounded so fresh, so un-Blur even...they always had more ideas floating around than many would often credit them with though. When they first pulled the likes of that, 'Repetition', and 'Inertia' back out for the gigs they played around the time of 'Blur' they sounded incredible, fitted in perfectly, as good and sharp as anything else in their sets..

Jon Benet Taxidermy (piratestyle), Friday, 8 July 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

can anyone xplain why the hell 13 keeps ranking so low 'round here?
seriously

#1 in my book

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 8 July 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

13 is the blur album that I most enjoyed getting to like, but I'm not sure it's my favorite. Was watching a live video the other day (Glastonbury '98) and it seemed like the crowd came most alive during the Parklife tracks. Me too.

dlp9001, Friday, 8 July 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

For my part, I just thought the tunes on 13 weren't very good. I wasn't a big fan of the production, either, but as far as that goes, I can get used to almost anything. If the tunes themselves are dull, though, then there's not much saving it. ...Also, about the time that album came out, I finally joined the rest of the world in understanding that Damon is a humongous tool.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 8 July 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

It's okay, but face it you wouldn't be listening to it today if it weren't for the fact Blur got a lot bigger (and arguably better) later on.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 8 July 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

The only thing really wrong with early Blur is the lyrics, I think, and Damon has even said he felt he could have done better in that department. I always felt it was sad that "I Know" didn't end up on the U.S. version - it's on the U.K. one, no? I'm not sure, to be honest.

And yet this thread makes me feel that pulling out 13 would be a very interesting idea indeed.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 9 July 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

13 is about a third classic. I love "Coffee & TV" and at the time even proclaimed it to be their best song; "Mellow Song", "Caramel", "Trimm Trabb" and "Battle" are all pretty good too. The rest is either incredibly meek and boring ("1992", "Trailerpark"); faux-punk wannabe-Popscene ("BLUREMI"); or pathetic lovesick self-mutilation ("No Distance Left To Run"; "Tender").

dog latin (dog latin), Saturday, 9 July 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

"I Know" is on the US version.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 9 July 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Ah! That's right. I bought the UK version and always had to play that song on the 12". Thanks.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, the "pathetic lovesick mutilation" is some of the best stuff on 13! I remember being so shocked when I first heard those songs, cos it truly was this very unlikely thing for Albarn, who had always either obscured himself in characters, or dodged that sort of obvious emoting.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Even though I love most of 13, "Trim Trabb" especially, I still think "Tender" is a blight on the rest of the album.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 9 July 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

Listen to track #5 called "1992" and tell me that doesn't sound like the White Stripes.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 9 July 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)

Whoops sorry - I meant #4 "Swamp Song".

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 9 July 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, 13 saw Blur's best moments.

Try "B.L.U." for modern punk rock, for example.

They should be KNOWN far and wide for this, their most experimental album, and they aren't. Why?

ALL CAN FANS SHOULD HEAR BATTLE!

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 9 July 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

Try "B.L.U." for modern punk rock, for example.

....I'd always personally found it to be a really weak half-arsed effort at the 'Bank Holiday'/'Chinese Bombs' haywire raging wonky punk-style songs they'd a tendency to write (and 'Popscene' too, to echo dog latin). Not in the same class as any of them. It sounds better live, the chorus sounds really silly on record, all a bit so-so, one of the tracks I tend to skip most when I've played '13' - which might just be me, but those aforementioned Blur tracks are some of my faves...

Jon Benet Taxidermy (piratestyle), Sunday, 10 July 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

Although (ahem) this isn't a 13 thread, I'd like to echo that "Battle" is FANTASTIC and my favorite Blur song [after "Sing" (look, I'm on topic!)]

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

my god how i love "battle"!

this thread is sort of reminding me of the one last week about whether our favorites, or our classics, are classics cause theyre great all around or if they have some other quality that encourages their classicness

b b, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

"Battle" is tied with "1992" and "Tender" for 13 highlight, yeah.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

It was a classic at the time but is probably dated now. Plus they got better and reminds me of Pablo Honey, where it’s all right but greatness was next. It, however, is much better than Radiohead’s debut.

I did hear "She’s So High" on Indie103.1 this last week and it sounded remarkable better than even "Black Metallic."


BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

I'm gonna revive this thread so I stop going on about how much I love this album on the songs poll thread because really...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C-Cgyu6NmY

I FUCKING LOVE THIS SONG SO MUCH. I FUCKING LOVE THIS BASSLINE SO MUCH. I LOVE THAT WEIRD TREMOLOED OUT PSYCHEDELIC BIT IN THE MIDDLE SO FUCKING MUCH. I LOVE THIS WHOLE ALBUM SO MUCH.

It is exactly 1/3 baggy leftovers, 1/3 shoegaze wibble and 1/3 what Blur would turn into. This is why I love it so much.

Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 2 June 2011 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

OTM. Was #10 on my ballot.

pandemic, Thursday, 2 June 2011 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

I always kinda hoped that after 13, the band would come around and not be so harsh on Leisure, since they really did kinda revisit a lot of the ideas of this era. I suppose because Leisure was the album where they were most molded by record company pressures and "this is what is IN right now" as opposed to the ideas they were interested in exploring. But I suppose the "this is what is IN" that point are the musical styles of my impressionable college age listening so I'm perfectly happy to listen to those ideas through those filters.

Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 2 June 2011 17:10 (fifteen years ago)


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