(ILM ABUSE FOR PERSONAL VINDICATION!) Music-related topic: F*CKING iPOD--!folder anyone??

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Ya'lls,

I know you music junkies out there have iPods. And from some internet research (and many, many of my own headaches) I have found that the so-called Exclamation Folder error is widespread among 4G click-wheel iPods (cf. http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showpost.php?s=31e7c9982bf14e2695cf21d2e1bb6455&p=135780&postcount=4). I myself am about to send back my 3rd iPod to fall victim to the dreaded exclamation folder. The HDD also clicks and spins up and down crazily--never a good sign for a hard disk. My questions to YOU: 1)has this happened to your 4G? 2) Is this a hardware/HDD defect in the 4G iPods? 3)If so, as I suspect, is this the reason Apple discontinued the 4G line and switched to selling only iPod photos so soon? Seems like it's been barely a year, if that, since they started selling the click-wheel models...

>:-(,
c.

Chris Wright (DrFunktronic), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

You are an idiot. The photo is just a 4G with a color screen.

no tech! (ex machina), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

i've had 3 iPod's but not because of this problem.
the 1st one i dropped and the piece that connects to the usb thingy bent. the 2nd i had for 2 weeks and i spilt orange soda on it. and the 3rd is fine so far.

That One Guy (That One Guy), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

I had this exact same problem. If you have an Apple Store near where you live, take it in and they'll replace it. The tech guy listened to my struggling Ipod for like one second and was like 'yeah this is broken.'

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

I got a brand new 4G iPod because my (not very) brand new 2G iPod came down with the Exclamation Folder error.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

If by 'near where you live' you mean 'less than 400 miles away', then yes. Otherwise... well, them's the breaks when you live in the middle of West Texas.

Chris Wright (DrFunktronic), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

shit i can walk to one
and i don't live in texas
and my ipod works

larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

hyuck hyuck
but yeah eff an ipod

larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

If it's a 4G, the good news is you're still under warranty, but yeah, the sending back and forth sux.

Sounds like the disk is indeed going paperweight, but if the ipod will mount, try wiping it and reinstalling the firmware.

Some good info can be found...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61003


rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

oops... half-post

You may need to manually set your ipod to disk mode to troubleshoot.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651

You can also try doing a search on "exclamation" here: http://forums.ipodlounge.com/

The folks at ipodlounge can be pretty helpful.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

http://pfm101.com/images/funny/ribbon.gif

no tech! (ex machina), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Fuck iPods. As a computer nerd who is a music nerd I recommend iRivers. OGG is for winners.

Will M. (Will M.), Friday, 8 July 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

Not everyone wants to be a computer nerd (which you kinda have to be to get the most out of the feature-rich alternative DAPs), or live on the cutting edge of Scandotheme compression algorithms.

In fact, most folks just want something nice that works. This is why Apple wins.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 8 July 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

Yea, Oggs are great when you wanna send your non nerd friends an album. Fucking idiot.

no tech! (ex machina), Friday, 8 July 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

no tech! pwns this thread

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 8 July 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

In fact, most folks just want something nice that works. This is why Apple wins.

Hand a PC user an iPod and they scratch their heads. Hand them an iRiver, which mounts like a USB hard drive, and they go "ahhhhh, I get it."

So yeah, iRiver wins.

Xii (Xii), Saturday, 9 July 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

Xii, even if your first sentence made sense, you'd be on teh crack.

Apple Computer share of PC Market: 85%
Apple share of total DAP market: >75%

What's the number-two hard-drive-based DAP? Oh right, iPod+HP. That's a lot of clueless PC users who seem to have found a way to muddle through.

I'm not even all like "ooh ipod!" but jeez, man, haterz=looneytunez.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Saturday, 9 July 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

Woah hang on - there is NO WAY 85% of computer users use Apples.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 9 July 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

I think he's talking about their market share of mp3 players...

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 9 July 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

I suspect no tech! is a mousy and intolerable person whose company few people enjoy. But I am glad he has his little kingdom here on the internet, and from his throne he can treat people as he wishes he could in real life: like a dickhole! Hooray, and God Bless ILM! Search function! Snarky remarks! Elitism! no tech!

Chris Wright (DrFunktronic), Saturday, 9 July 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

No tech! is a total asshole. At least judging by this thread. What an intolerant, intolerable piece of shit. He should be stuffed in a piƱata and hung from the nearest tree by his neck. This is coming from a guy who refuses to register and constantly gets his unregistered names registered by miffed ILXers.

Stoner Fella, Saturday, 9 July 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Are you guys threatened by mac users or something?

no tech! (ex machina), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh my... looks like my sneering rebuttal lost a key line or two. Now who's the moran?

That should read...

Apple Computer share of PC Market: 85%
Apple share of total DAP market: >75%

Carry on. It'll be so much fun if this turns into an ipodbashing/trolling thread.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

hahahaha - I'm gettin' killed by the HTMLz0r editor!

One mo' time...

Apple Computer share of PC market: less than 5%
Apple share of hard-drive-based DAP market: more than 85%
Apple share of total DAP market: more than 75%

I am now leaving this thread in shame...

rogermexico (rogermexico), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

That's the US only though, right? Over here (Netherlands, Belgium, France, Germany, etc) I see far, far more people with mp3 phones (Nokia 6230, etc) than with iPods. Or do mp3 phones not count as DAP's?

Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

That is US. The entire personal electronics picture is very different in Europe, let alone Asia. mp3 phones wouldn't be counted as DAPs for market-share calculation purposes. We don't even have them here yet, and they have pretty limited capacity.

In a few years though, I'd expect the whole PDA/phone/DAP market to look pretty different as the distinctions between devices get blurrier.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

http://www.thebscorner.com/archives/andy-rooney.jpg

I'm not wasting any more money on gadgets until it is fairly common and standard that PDA/DAP/Cellphone/Walkie-Talkie/Wap-Web/Text-Messenger are all fused into a single block roughly the size of the current color screen PDA phones... and are under $500 with a "pay as you go" cellphone minutes plan. We all know that's the final goal, anyway. The companies who develop this shit are just stringing us along to make more money in incremental upgrades. The first few of these full-featured devices will be overpriced and widely accepted to be worthless piles of shit after a few years that only the suckerfish early adopting assholes had to have to impress their friends. Remember the first cell phones? The didn't work and were big as a baseball glove, but every asshole who was any asshole had to have one. Pretty soon, our ultrahip status symbols that stupid niggas actually kill each other for will be just as worthless as those first piece of shit cell phones. And can you imagine how many people niggas will kill for the full-feature devices of the future? Middle aged niggas will be laughing about how foolish they were back in the old days when they beat a kid to death with 11 of their buddies for the coveted iPod, which will be about as much of a status symbol in the future as a pair of old tennis shoes.

So, I'm looking at about 2010 and I'm perfectly fine with that. I've had a PDA and it was basically a waste of $300. I've had a cell phone and it was a waste of several hundred dollars in overages and overall usefulness/uselessness. I have a Sony Discman that can play mp3CDs if I want and that's all I need. I'm an old man that listens to music in his spare time; it's not as if I need a jukebox in my head to entertain my imaginary friends when they come over to party. An iPod would be worth it to me if a 60 gig model was about $100. Otherwise, I'll need a whole lot of features crammed into one pocket-sized object to make me happy. A travelling entertainment center/command station is one thing, an overpriced, overhyped nuissance that is the iPod is another.

Andy Rooney, Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

http://www.optusbusiness.com.au/convergence/images/image_graph-what-is-convergence.gif

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Somewhere on that chart, there needs to be a nigga killing somebody.

Andy Rooney, Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

http://www.thebscorner.com/archives/andy-rooney.jpg

Haha, some incredible loser went and registered "Andy Rooney!" Yeah, that'll really botch my whole plan, genius. If there's one thing an old man like me has come to realize, it's that a famous face is more important than a name. Names tend to slip people's minds, but you never forget a face. Especially a face as old and funny as mine. Another thing I learned from signing autographs is that as long as I write "Andy Rooney" near a photo of my face, nobody gives a shit what else I write. So take a look at this post. Study the signature. Analyze it. And realize that a dumb shit like you will never beat an old fucker like me.

Andy Rooney..... with Love and 8===D ~ ~ S^;, Sunday, 10 July 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)


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