wooden wand & the vanishing voice in being 'total jerks' with 'psychological problems' flap

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― Dark Bellowing River, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Skip this album and look for some good indie rock that's worth your money.

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

ripping off the No Neck Blues Band again, huh?

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Take it over to the noise board, fellas...

― Sell the kids for food, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahaha...who put th benzedrine in mr siedels ovaltine

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

http://www.killrockstars.com/bands/woodenwand/photos/factsheet.jpg

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Wow is that them? Is one of the girls really only 16?

My friend said they also flipped off the audience in Kansas City and generally had bad attitudes. They look so cuddly, though! Except for that guy in the top right - is that Mr Wand himself?

― Dark Bellowing River, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)

they iz saucy punx!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 14 July 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

pffft.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 14 July 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

Clueless douchebag posts to the Amazon reviews section of all places, where, as everyone knows, the true underground community thrives. Notice he doesn't mention anything about the events leading up to the alleged hostility. And, shit - even Strunk and White themselves would beat this fucker down for constructing sentences I wouldn't expect from the prison ESL class I used to teach. Not worth my time or yours. We'll tell you the real story in person if you like. That's all for now.

― God Body, Thursday, 14 July 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

http://mi.bpcdn.us/583385/hatersleave.gif

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Thursday, 14 July 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

post the story here!

― Ô¿Ô (eman), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

I see roger and I see his wife.

― Felix Leiter (nordicskilla), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

HE MARRIED A 16 YEAR OLD?

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

kissin cousins?!?!?!

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

I think Heidi is the young one. That's not Roger's wife.

― Cirrus, Thursday, 14 July 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

hehe, jarvis is on the top right.

― pher (pher), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

They be watchin "DIG!" for funky tips

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Which one is the Brix Smith of WWVV?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

I'll say this -- that WW solo album is (sneakiliy) great. More.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

lucas got the flaggggg.

ripping off nnck ripping off the sun city girls ripping off the godz & cromagnon

nahyhhhh.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm mildly interested in the band's side of the story, but I really doubt there is ANY circumstance where you can say "do you know who we are" without coming across as babies. or divas. or baby divas. that's a cute thought.

― matlewis (matlewis), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

most people, let alone most musicians, have psychological problems.

somehow this reminds me of a couple years ago when At The Drive In flipped out on some guy for wearing an afro wig to one of their shows and said dude groused about it online and didn't understand why the band would be unhappy.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

hahahahaha.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

also, +5 for usage off the word "groused"

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

but I N-N-NEED those five points, man!

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

that's five points less to put in my gas tank!

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Briefly - the "do you know who we are" quote comes from He!di. In context, it went something like this:

Douchebag: What, you think you guys are so good or something that people can't talk when you're playing?"* *(actual quote)

He!di: What the fuck are you talking about? Did you even see the show?

Douchebag: No, I didn't. I was at work. I know YOU guys don't like to work. (this is a reference to me ending our performance by saying something to the effect of "kids, don't ever work")

(At this point, Luc@s understandably becomes enraged and throws a bottle, and begins getting in the kid's face.)

Luc@s: Do you KNOW me? Do you have any idea what we've been DOING for the past five weeks??

At which Douchebag quivers and giggles nervously until the promotor gets involved, threatening to steal our equipment (going as far as to keep turning the venue's lights off while Say@rd tries to gather up C@stanets gear)

This is only half the story but i think this has already gotten out of hand.

― God Body, Thursday, 14 July 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Whoa yeah, I agree with Raymond Cummings, that Wooden Wand solo album is pretty fantastic. Songs stuck in my head for the past week or so. Creaky and very catchy.

(x-post)

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Thursday, 14 July 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

God's a good cat. I know they only sought light*~

― B Nasty (B Nasty), Friday, 15 July 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

i got the day off wednesday, so i will def. make the show @ tonic.

i will bring some marijuana for your ladywife and others who wish to partake.

― Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Wait, drug use? I thought this was a Republican band.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Only as Republican like Matmos are good looking

― God Body, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Only as Republican as Matmos are good looking

― God Body, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I'll be there on Wednesday too - got to see my buddy Tom.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

i'll be there too. there was talk of interviewing them....'spose i could ask them then

― b b, Friday, 15 July 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

momus was in a dream of mine last nite. only he didn't look like momus. and the scary clown from the prodigy was there too. he was brain-damaged and very frightening. and fatboy slim was there too. they wanted to know why i wrote mean stuff about them. there were ghosts in the grooves of the records. i had to walk thru the park where the gay skinheads ruled after dark. they didn't hit me though. they hit jt instead. he was looking for his cat. i didn't lift a finger to help him.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Sticks and stones etc. oh wait that was that other band. Oops. My mistake.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 15 July 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

haha but drew and martin are cute! so are wwvv. why y'all gotta fight.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

It must be said that Amazon customer reviews are notorious for lunatics with private agendas carping pointlessly- a friend of mine had his first published book of poems totally slammed by an anonymous, hyper-critical "customer" who turned out to be a jealous ex-boyfriend.

No beef here, just an attempt at humor that seems to have blown up in my face. My apologies.

― The Deeply Unattractive Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

let's not all throw hands here

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Reviewer: john stamos (LACA) - See all my reviews
Charlie is a personal friend of mine, and i have been reading his poetry for years. This collection is the best of the best as far as Chas's art is concerned. When one works on a show like full house, one sees many forms of expression (from "youve got it dude" to "Watch the hair!" [my personal favorite!]). Sheen expresses the overall feeling of the modern man. From our disgust with the system (damn the man) to our love of sheenistry. Not many people realized that i not only function as an actor, but as a producer. How does this relate to Los? one might ask. Well, sheen PRODUCES some pretty good poetry. Ok ok. Some of sheen's poems may be seen as obscene, thats what i hear anyway. Well, thats trash. that is like saying c thomas howell is a bad tennis player. its just flat out not true. Sheen steals part of ourselves and gives us a chunk of humanity and sheenathan. And, everything that is sheentastic. i remember when a young man named carlos estevez came to town and tried to break into the business. After a name change and a little flick named Lucas, the buzz was too loud to ignore. i personally think that the artist formerly known as estevez will be known more for his poetry than for his acting. carlos is of a caliber not normally seen in this lifetime. I know that sheen has given us all something to think about. ok, i know what you are thinking. he is a mysoginist. nope. he is a drug addict/alcoholic. nope. first of all, as sheen once said, "nobody ever told me it wasnt ok to have a good time." ill vouch for that. ive known the man for quite a while, and never, i mean never, during that time did anyone tell the man that it was not ok to have a good time. now, time to get down to the nitty gritty. The poetry. it is outstanding. brilliant. fun. did i say outstanding? yeah. i am going to go out on a limb here. are you ready? sheen has produced the greatest book of all time. did i say the greatest book of all time? yes. the greatest book of poetry of all time? nope. the greatest book of all time. Why? well ill answer that. sheen is willing to take on the greatest of topics. i wont spoil anything, but lets just say he runs the gamut from A to F. F stands for a bad word. now im going to introduce a new word. Sheenastia. verb. - to live life with the greatest of detailed theological reasoning known to the human form. NOUN - a bong. There is one movie that i would like to expound upon. please allow. NO CODE OF CONDUCT is a film not like any other. on the surface, it seems to be the story of a man's struggle to solve a crime. yeah, yeah, but thats not the end of it. It is ultimately an allegory of one man's search for truth. It may have been directed by the greatest new directing talent on the planet. bret michaels. alright, enough. back to my experience as it relates to sheen. sheens and my life have intertwined on not only a physical but a spiritual level. And through sheens words, i have found life. life's name is estevez. the extevez tribe started in spain in the year 4000 bc. when the spanish conquered much of south america, the estevez's moved on to find their fortune in the new world. they made it, but little jose esteves, didnt. this created a long line of disillusionment within the sheen's inner circle. it lasted for generations, and was not truly harnessed in art until young carlos sheen, born 2350 years after jose, gave his artistic gifts to the world. now, we experience a new form of sheen. a new form of expression. i believe that this book will outlast us all, and will be the final testament of a species that never fully grasped their capability. Call me oldfashioned, but that is the way i feel. sheen has given us what we may never repay. now i will get to the real purpose of this review. i, as a spiritual being, believe in my deepest darkest regions, that sheen the publishing of this book breaks the forth seal of the apolcolypse. that being said, i also believe that sheen is not human. allow me to qualify. sheen, the father of modern thought, is supernatural. sure martin claims to be his biological father. but i know this is not the case. the conception of one carlos sheen-estevez was one of divinity. this impregnation parallels that of another great book of poetry. in fact, i'm not convinced that sheen did not write that great book, as either one apostles or the Lord himself. How did this happen, it cant be true you say. permit my clarification. it is not widely known, but this book of poetry was originally written by sheen during a year of isolation and meditation in the mountains. sheen during this binge of spirituality, would go into trances where he would write unconsciously. Big deal, you say. well, did i mention that he wrote it in a dead language known as aremaic. Once this book is broken down, translated back into other languages and then back to native american languages, we will get the true translation, we will see THE BOOK OF SHEEN aka a piece of my mind.

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― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

was that a FLAMEFEST OMG

― noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Report from Indianapolis - the band seemed very nice (though they did refuse to autograph some kid's tape) when I complimented them on their show. I'd never heard of them but I liked what I heard. Castanets were really inspiring though. They should have played longer!

― Lami Rabi Rabi, Saturday, 16 July 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

http://badgas.co.uk/lynndie/mosh_girl.jpg

― Ô¿Ô (eman), Saturday, 16 July 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't autograph anything.

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

autograph a tape?!?!?!????

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)

I'd rather "fans" trade me personal CDrs or something, arranged in advance by email. That would be more fun.

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

autographing a tape, which then goes right to ebay collector scum

― Ô¿Ô (eman), Saturday, 16 July 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

yeah, don't autograph tapes guys!!

― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 16 July 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm not usually into message boards, but feel angry that all this lying gossip is swirling around these Wooden Wand and Vanishing Voice folks--nice group of people (albeit seemingly shy and sometimes strange people). I was at the DeKalb show (and had seen them in Chicago earlier this summer, as well as last winter and last summer.) Hard to watch this performance....local folks chatted through the whole set, sat in front of musicians with their backs facing them, talking on cellphones. Bad manners, but the worst was when one local buck hovered over Jessica and criticized her guitar playing-- "Hesitation....unsure.....unskilled....defeat." Another stood over the 16 year old with the harp and poked at it while she attempted to play around his fingers. I would be pissed too!! but the group was completely professional, finishing their set graciously. Outside, no one said "Do you know who we are?" or mentioned their label or various associations. They just expressed their disappointment and frustration. They were upset, mad, but not out of line.
(before the show, they had chattered excitedly to me about a new set-up they were trying.) It seems folks on message boards are all too eager to gossip...I just wanted to set things straight, since I was actually there.
Also, I can attest to the kindness of the WWVV folks...last time in chicago they gave me a lift to where my truck had broken down, and waited with me till the tow truck came. They played some booty rap by a group of atlanta strippers for me and gave me some beef jerky. They had never met me before, but were willing to help me out. Peace to the haters.

― Dan Bobis, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

thanks for providing some real info from the scene of the so-called crime dan.

i really enjoyed them last i saw them and look forward to seeing them tomorrow

― b b, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

BEEF JERKY!? WHAT FUCKHEADS!

― The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

good thing like 99% of the people on this thread like WWVV.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

i know a dan bobis.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

"Wait, drug use? I thought this was a Republican band.
-- Drew Daniel (mces...), July 15th, 2005."

Best comment on here.

― On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

i hardly think they are republicans if they are driving a van around with a "there's no government like no government" bumper sticker!!

― Dan Bobis, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

I took it as more of a reference to some of Roger Adultery's past "libertarian" diatribes, which have come off as a bit more "traditional south" than "intelligent progressive thinking."

― Nostalgic for the Pre-Conservative Hendrie (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

"It seems folks on message boards are all too eager to gossip..."

understatement of the DECADE.
isn't that why we have innernetland?

― eedd, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

i hardly think they are republicans if they are driving a van around with a "there's no government like no government" bumper sticker!!

funny how this essentially republican sticker now represents the opposite of what the party's about. karl rove can suck my dick

― michael burble, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

I took it as more of a reference to some of Roger Adultery's past "libertarian" diatribes, which have come off as a bit more "traditional south" than "intelligent progressive thinking."

staten island is in the south?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

staten island is on mars.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

what's that south of?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

south of heaven

― Ô¿Ô (eman), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

I think they are a group that resists catagorization--while with them in Chicago last winter, they engaged in a spirited debate about the supreme court. it was clear to me that they were not all libertarians--one of the girls gave me a video she had made about dumpster diving, which seemed to have more leftist overtones. But they apologized after their debate in the car, stressing to me that they come together around a DIY ethic--though their personal politics may not align, that particular sensibility is shared and drives their art-making.

― Dan Bobis, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

In short:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/killerwaves/c00c24f8.jpg

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

drew daniel is a dreamboat and I'll have none of this rudeness!

WWVV are very nice indeed and put on a great show

― breezy, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

dudes, heidi is not fucking 16. she is older than me!!!

anyone else going to the tonic show tonight?
i will be tripping.

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

i'll see u there, ian.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

"hahahahahahaha...who put th benzedrine in mr siedels ovaltine
-- dan bunnybrain (bunnybrai...), July 14th, 2005."

That's not DM Seidel with the flag. It's G. Lucas Crane.

― Dante Dubois, Saturday, 23 July 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)

Not to add to the rumours, but I heard from some reliable sources (I grew up in the same town as some of them) that this band and some of their friends - namely, that band from Minneapolis, Davenp0rt - are all seriously into smoking crack. I'm not even kidding. Is crack the new 'cool' drug of choice for freak folk indie rock bands? If so, I think that's really, really lame.

― Lurker 2, Saturday, 30 July 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

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― noizem duke (noize duke), Sunday, 31 July 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

"Not to add to the rumours..."

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 31 July 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

These are some of the most sincere dudes out there. They are not trying for anything more than their own sound. There has been severe personal loss of late; I would say the old lay off is in order, message board annonimity or not. Good dudes, bad times: true.

That thing about the crack is obviously a fact though. Oh yeah, and it actually is not legal to take Heidi over state lines, as she is a minor.

― Elisa (Elisa), Sunday, 31 July 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with people on the internet?

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)

i thought that pic was funny, but regret posting it in this context. plus, as usual, i didn't do it right anyhow.

"but what happens to us when, disintoxicated, we learn what we are? lost among babblers in a night in which we can only hate the appearance of light which comes from babbling."
-bataille

― noizem duke (noize duke), Sunday, 31 July 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

http://larry-adams.com/TarBaby.jpg

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.portcityunderground.com/images/thats_racist.gif

― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

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