WAY TO GO ILM! Beck calls early 90s rock "rockist" in the new MOJO of all fuckin things!

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Kudos, all. Your work is done.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

I think mid 70s rock is far more rockist than early 90s rock. And a person like Beck would likely have thrived even more in the mid 70s.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Early 90s rock wasn't that rockist though, surely? Bubblegum hearts beating behind dirty facades.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Beck calls early 90s rock "rockist" in the new MOJO of all fuckin things!

Why is this a good thing?

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

gin blossoms ain't the ones turning over large chunks of their bank to an organization founded on the notion that some jerk put us in a volcano a few million years ago, pally

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

LOCK THREAD. LOCK THREAD!!!!

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

I was reading the Trouser Press record guide (from 1991) today and an entry was decrying "rockism"...can't remember the entry offhand. But hey, he's a student of history, right?

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

"a person like Beck would likely have thrived even more in the mid 70s."

Slacker dudes don't cut it as seventies pop stars.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

they might be, gear.

― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

right after I posted it I figured, 'although how else will they get their career back?'

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Some fine people have done their best to make sense of what this "rockist" thing is exactly but I think I made the right decision in simply ignoring the categorization. I am also of the mind that it simply sprang from bored hipsters who managed to hammer apathetic of name-calling music appreciators into submission.

At least its now on a downward path towards irrelevance if Beck's name-checking it in magazines.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

THE TERM IS OVER 20 YEARS OLD PEOPLE

― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

I was (mostly) kidding...i was just surprised at how the term has seemed to spread into the lexicon.

xpost to strngo

i dunno though, this following the thing where someone overheard someone call the new Lucinda Williams "rockist" at a record store, and as much as i've seen it around lately seems to indicate that it's got some new cache or something...

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

no, i know. i do find it weird that this term from early 80s british music writing is suddenly all over the place.

― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

though it wouldn't be the first time a hot button issue on ilm "mysteriously" found its way in the ny times music section sometime later.

― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

It was from the My Bloody Valentine entry, BTW.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

If it was from 20 years ago, why the hell did it gain steam in the last 2?

The whole thing mesmerizes me. Just like "reggaeton," does.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

internet

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Reggaeton is quite mesmerizing.

― deej.., Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

puerto ricans be mystifyin

― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

someone overheard someone call the new Lucinda Williams "rockist" at a record store

Didn't we establish that the person probably said "rockish"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

The internet is really amusing.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

they may have been referring to 90s grunge band "radish"

― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

wasn't that Ben Lee's band? He's like a crappy, more boring Beck.....that would complete the circle of life.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Were Radish the ones that Westlife covered? Or was that Salad?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Relish

― DJ Mencap0))), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

Relish. The circle of life is etc

― DJ Mencap0))), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

the thing where someone overheard someone call the new Lucinda Williams "rockist" at a record store

I missed that thread, but it's my opinion that the word should only be written and never said aloud.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Matt:

"*sigh*.. i mean, i dunno, her latest one is just too rockist for my tastes."

― donuty! donuti! donuté! (donut), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Radish was Ben Kweller's band. I forget the name of Ben Lee's band. They were both in The Bens.

I still don't understand how music can sound "rockist," or how a genre of music can resemble "rockism," so I guess it's official that I still don't know the real definition of this word.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

I guess it's official that I still don't know the real definition of this word.

It keeps me awake at night.

― PB, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

It's the new heroin.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

"REO Speedwagon renamed OTM Bandwagon"

― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

Wouldn't an example of music sounding rockist be like, a genre dedicated not to using electronics or something?

― HairoftheDOgggggggg (David Allen), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

what is rockism? are there any threads about it?

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

BECK IS CALUM.

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

All I know is, I hear the word "rockist" and I expect someone to start calling DAF "the future."

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 14 July 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)

will "reggaetonist" be a buzzword in 20 years????

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 14 July 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

Maybe reggaetonista.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 14 July 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

(rockismo en espanol!)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 14 July 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)

Radish was Ben Kweller's band. I forget the name of Ben Lee's band.

noise addict

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 14 July 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)

ILX IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF CULTURAL ACCELERATION

― latebloomer: occasionally OTM (latebloomer), Thursday, 14 July 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

PERTY SOON THE KIDZ WILL BE WRITIN SONGZ ABOUT GEAR!'S EX-ROOMMATE!

― latebloomer: occasionally OTM (latebloomer), Thursday, 14 July 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

All I know is, I hear the word "rockist" and I expect someone to start calling DAF "the future."

hahahaha!

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 14 July 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

it's my opinion that the word should only be written and never said aloud.

say it three times and a rockist appears!

― Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 15 July 2005 06:37 (twenty years ago)

the mbv review also zings "the twee bedsit romanticism of the pallid anti-rockists. "

so anti-rockism has changed (perhaps)

― Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 15 July 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

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