The best synthesis of rock, blooze and country?

Message Bookmarked

Bookmark Removed

What band/album best fuses these three elements in the finest fashion? (and all three elements need be present).

― p.j. (Henry), Friday, 15 July 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

I guess I should get Exile on Main St.out of the way...

― p.j. (Henry), Friday, 15 July 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Easily Beggar's Banquet for me, album-wise. And as for bands, probably the Allman Brothers.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

isn't there a flying burrito bros thread hanging around today?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Los Lobos, How Will The Wolf Survive?
Elvis Costello's KIng of America (uneven, bloated, still great)

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

skynyrd.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

marshall tucker band

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

outlaws

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

molly hatchet

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

doc holliday

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

point blank

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

blackfoot

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

lonnie mack

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

antiseen

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

hahaha, not really.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

zz top

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Mother Earth...well, not best, but they should be mentioned.

― Not Thaat Chuck, Friday, 15 July 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

funkadelic's first album and parliament's osmium stuff

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

and, oh yes, elvis costello, how could i forget him!

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Brownsville Station

― George Smith, Friday, 15 July 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

"I guess I should get Exile on Main St.out of the way..."

yeah, would ya, it's blocking my view.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

chuck berry

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Georgia Satellites.

― George Smith, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

gene vincent

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

link ray

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Status Quo

― George Smith, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

jerry lee lewis

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Drive-By Truckers

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

nazareth

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Johnny Winter

― George Smith, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

james gang

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

poco

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

atomic rooster

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Bugs Henderson

― George Smith, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Humble Pie

― George Smith, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

The Faces

― George Smith, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

kentucky headhunters, "big boss man"

― xhuxk, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

TEH WHITE STRIPE

― p.j. (Henry), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

I need to listen to more Faces...I heard a tune of theirs on a jukebox last night and it was cool.

― p.j. (Henry), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

eddie cochran

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

wanda jackson

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Scott, you are a fount of musical data!

― p.j. (Henry), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

elvis presley

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

death cab for cutie

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahaha! just kidding!

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

I mean, one could say that rock IS a synthesis of blues and country, but what about these days? Not a lot of newer bands doing it, are there? What about the DMB?

― hackey (Henry), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I guess I should get Exile on Main St.out of the way...

Exile is great of course, but it also has strong gospel and soul elements in it, so it's more than a melding of the three styles in the thread title.

Dylan's John Wesley Harding has a minimalist style that covers all three bases.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 15 July 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

>I mean, one could say that rock IS a synthesis of blues and country, but what about these days? Not a lot of newer bands doing it, are there? <

get one CMT

― xhuxk, Friday, 15 July 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

weird though. groups like Montgomery Gentry rock harder than many more conventional rock bands, but they're still considered country. why is this?

― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 15 July 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

because they're conservatives, which means lefty rock listeners and especially lefty rock critics don't want them in their club

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 15 July 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Skipping 61 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

ccr have more country OR blues than neil young or the band (to my ears).

country =/ folk music (though it can, i guess)

― xhuxk, Saturday, 16 July 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

i mean, the band definitely drew to a certain (over-reverent) extent on charlie poole/dock boggs type '20s white country blues stuff in "up on cripple creek" and "the day they drove old dixie down" or whatever, though i'm not sure why that would be more "country" or "blues" than ccr's rockabilly. i don't really get what country music neil young (who i often love) is supposed to have sounded like (though he did attempt lame country, blues, and rockabilly albums in the '80s i guess.) don't hear much blues in neil either (how often did his music ever reallt swing? "mr. soul," i guess; what else?), and the blues in the band definitely isn't "blooze" by any stretch of the imagination, as far as i can tell. which is to say the band never rocked out hard much, i don't think.

then again, maybe i should re-read *mystery train.*

which reminds me: I nominate harmonica frank floyd.

though skynyrd still wins by a mile, when you get down to it.

― xhuxk, Saturday, 16 July 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

"though skynyrd still wins by a mile, when you get down to it."

i agree. which is why i posted their name first. before i got carried away.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 16 July 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

southern rock did it as well as anything, I guess. Charlie Rich on stuff like "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge" too--but Charlie Rich was always in his heart a jazz singer and he hardly ever seemed like he was having fun. I love some CCR, especially "Willy and the Poor Boys," do find it a bit mechanical-sounding. Which might make it more "rock," I suppose I always want it to be a bit more limber than it actually comes across on the records. But anyway CCR's all about wanting Sam and Jud Phillips to produce you with Howlin' Wolf in the next room--and having listened to Steve Earle recently it seems to me John Fogerty was in some ways the Steve Earle of his time? Except he stayed out of all that trouble Steve liked to get into.

Ronnie Milsap when he's not so overtly country is another guy I think does it--he's underrated.

― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 16 July 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

Also have to nominate JD Blackfoot for "Yellowhand." Most assuredly country that rocks hard with blooz wail, Blackfoot's throat. Beats the crap out of the band in terms of rocking and doesn't even use electric guitars.

― George Smith, Saturday, 16 July 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

>it seems to me John Fogerty was in some ways the Steve Earle of his time? Except he stayed out of all that trouble Steve liked to get into.<

Nah, Fogerty could sing.

Actually he was the Dan McCafferty (Nazareth) of his time (as I think Frank Kogan pointed out once.) And Dan McCafferty was the Axl Rose of his time (unless Jim Dandy Mangrum was).

By the way nobody has mentioned the Drive By Truckers til now. Or Kid Rock, either, for that matter.

― xhuxk, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

By the way nobody has mentioned the Drive By Truckers til now.

yeah they did.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

oops i missed it. sorry

what about tom petty? i'd say (at his best at least) he's closer to fogerty than earle is, too (thoough he definitely has more countrish than bluesish moments i suppose).

― xhuxk, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

why don't i like steve earle more? a question for the ages.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

see the 2005 rolling country thread, scott. it is discussed there in detail.

― xhuxk, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Jennyanykind should probably be in here, though they're doomed to be forever underrated.

― dlp9001, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

i mean, the band definitely drew to a certain (over-reverent) extent on charlie poole/dock boggs type '20s white country blues stuff

From my understanding and from what I hear when I listen to the Band, they were more into rock 'n' roll, blues, and a bit of country. They recorded a great version of "Long Black Veil", which Lefty Frizzell had a big hit with. When recording the Basement Tapes, Dylan apparently taught them the old Appalachian string music, folk, and Dock Boggs type stuff. The Band were rockers even if the first two records barely show it. For a taste of their rock, I would suggest the Hawks stuff ("Who Do You Love"), bootlegs of live recordings from the late 60s, and the Band's first song on the Festival Express movie. Robertson's solo is simple, nasty and totally dissonant.

Not to get off the subject, but I have to admit that CCR has always been a bit of a mystery to me. I like their music, and I like their 12-minute version of "Chooglin'", but for some reason I hesitate to call them great or one of the greats. It gets a but dull after a few tracks.

What about Sir Douglas Quintet's Mendocino LP???

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

"It gets a but dull after a few tracks."

No, no, listen to some more tracks! They had a bunch of good ones on every album. between the songwriting, the hooks, and those guitars, i never get bored. and i love when they go long. i love "pagan baby" for instance.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 17 July 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

Ray Charles. Not county fair Ray but Modern Sounds in Country and Western gangsta Ray.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 17 July 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

KID ROCK MY FRIENDS 'i take punk rock and mix it with southern rock'

― ROBERT BIERMANN, Sunday, 17 July 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

i love "pagan baby" for instance

what record is this on? Is this like the extended "Chooglin'"? I always dig long-ass Diddley grooves.

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Sunday, 17 July 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

i don't really get what country music neil young (who i often love) is supposed to have sounded like (though he did attempt lame country, blues, and rockabilly albums in the '80s i guess.) don't hear much blues in neil either

i hear lots of gram parsons in tonight's the night (check "roll another number" most specifically) and though i'm not entirely sure what the blooze is, as opposed to the blues, i hear one or the other in the title track. and i detect the shadows of both throughout the album.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 17 July 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)

Kasey Chambers. She's usually more alt-country-folkie than bloozey, but that second album has a couple of songs that nail it. "Barricades and Brickwalls" especially. I wish she did more stuff like that.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 17 July 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)

Charlie Rich on stuff like "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge" too--but Charlie Rich was always in his heart a jazz singer and he hardly ever seemed like he was having fun.

charlie rich definitely had this feel at several points in his career, including but not at all limited to his recordings for sun in the '50s and smash in the '60s. i guess his sun sides were more like a straight rockabilly thing, but then again, why is rockabilly getting such short shrift in this thread? and by the evidence of the complete smash sessions, he WAS having fun there.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 17 July 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

christ, i can't believe no one mentioned
http://image.com.com/mp3/images/cover/200/drf700/f761/f76177h5tlt.jpg

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 17 July 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

Dan McCafferty was the Axl Rose of his time

No, no, no -- Axl Rose was the Dan McAfferty of his time, only GNR had more "hits" and sales. Speaking of which, has been mentioned, Nazareth fits into this thread most excellently. Jim Dandy had the pseudo-Howlin' Wolf voice. Which brings up Ruby Starr & Grey Ghost who should also be here.

xpost

"Pagan Baby" isn't a "Diddley" groove. It's rock rave, a simple shout.

What about Sir Douglas Quintet's Mendocino LP???

What about Sir Doug backed up CCR's rhythm section, "Groover's Paradise."

between the songwriting [of CCR],

Yes, "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" and "Lodi" wonderfully fit this thread.

Contemporary, check Silvertide's "California Rain" which is just aching to be something hot on CMT.

Now I'm going to get back listening to The Glitterati, which is another matter.

― George Smith, Sunday, 17 July 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

And speaking of Elvis, time to drag in Commander Cody & the Lost Planet Airmen and Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks and the first Pat Travers solo LP, which pays tributes to all of them, drags in its Ronnie Hawkins' Hawks influences way more blasting than the Band, plus Elvis and Chuck Berry and begins to invent modern heavy metal. And I can't think of anything more North American stadium hard rock than that.

And I'm dragging in Ted Nugent, too, because Ted built (and builds) a lot of his classic stand up and shake your fist numbers on pure honky tonk riffs, only played through a wall of amplification. It's a well known fact.

― George Smith, Sunday, 17 July 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

And it would be good to mention Rory Gallagher who's dead but still has some new omnibus released for him on Sanctuary. Which isn't the best selection of Rory Gallagher stuff, but man, he really stuffed country into his hard rockin' blooz.

― George Smith, Sunday, 17 July 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

"christ, i can't believe no one mentioned"

I Mentioned Elvis!

"why is rockabilly getting such short shrift in this thread?"

It hasn't, if you read the thread!

i'm yelling again.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 17 July 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

haha sorry scott i missed that, i guess i just sorta read this thread with a "grrr i bet they're gonna forget ELVIS" attitude.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 17 July 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

ian et al, do you have this album? i like the cover:

http://therisingstorm.net/audio/hillsofindiana.jpg

― by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 3 April 2011 23:13 (fourteen years ago)

never seen it, but it looks like the kind of thing i've dig.

― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 4 April 2011 03:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://record-fiend.blogspot.com/2010/06/lonnie-mack-hills-of-indiana-elektra.html

― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2011 04:54 (fourteen years ago)

Lonnie Mack is my Cincinnati homeboy, synthesis of rock/blooze/country/soul exactly nails what he does.

I like his late 60s elektra LPs better - Glad I'm In The Band and especially Whatever's Right recorded at Jewel Records studio in scenic Mt Healthy, Ohio, about ten minutes away from my old house.

Lonnie Mack's best album, next to his debut Wham! is Roadhouses & Dancehalls from 1988, recorded in Nashville but not really sounding like it.

"Too Rock For Country, Too Country For Rock & Roll" - opening cut sums it up.

Grew up in the 50s with a guitar in my hand,
With the Grand Old Opry, Jimmy Reed and Bobby Blue Bland.
Everybody asked me what I play, everywhere I go.
I say I'm too rock for country, too country for rock and roll.

Well, my brother's in the Army with a country western band.
But I'm setting home, playing music with my old man.
When my uncle came to visit, he turned me on to Soul,
Now I'm too rock for country, too country for rock and roll.

― electrophonic gin & tonic (m coleman), Monday, 4 April 2011 09:45 (fourteen years ago)

No mention of Little Feat on this thread?

― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 4 April 2011 15:33 (fourteen years ago)

lonnie mack one of the greatest live shows i've ever seen in my life. blew me away.

― scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:35 (fourteen years ago)

Three words: Stevie. Ray. Vaughan.

― kkvgz, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:35 (fourteen years ago)

honestly s.r.v. always struck me as guilty of overstatement--seems constitutionally unsubtle.

that lonnie mack album i posted above is not bad. has a good cover of dylan's "the man in me" that was a nice surprise.

― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

ooh i was playing a good one today:

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/72/Hot_Tuna_Burgers.jpg

― scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

hot tuna! yowza!

― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

"water song" could be 20 minutes longer and i would not complain.

― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

No mention of Little Feat on this thread?

― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, April 4, 2011 11:33 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

haha you stole my line!

― Metal Jennifer Saunders (some dude), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

some dude, what are your top 3 Feat LPs? I only have the first one.

― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

you need them all!

― scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

and lowell solo.

― scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

seriously, being a feat completist is easy and cheap and totally worth it.

― scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

my top 3 Little Feat studio LPs (so, not counting the live Waiting For Columbus, which is v essential) are 1) Sailin' Shoes 2) Feats Don't Fail Me Now 4) Dixie Chicken. at least that's my answer today.

― Metal Jennifer Saunders (some dude), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

okay, yeah, i see those records all the time for cheapzilla. i'll get 'em.

― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

add that bootleg that somebody around here provided a link for a couple years ago. It was a WLIR broadcast from '74 or something.

Ian needs to definitely get Columbus

― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

The best synthesizer of rock, blooze and country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJM-zHMr2B0

― bamcquern, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

^^^ lmao <3

― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

add that bootleg that somebody around here provided a link for a couple years ago. It was a WLIR broadcast from '74 or something.

http://www.archive.org/details/lf1974-09-19.shnf

― Hardcore Bangage (Dan Peterson), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

also:

http://991.com/newgallery/Bobby-Whitlock-Raw-Velvet-348978.jpg

http://www.rekord.net/cover/bigthumbs/rekord.9387.jpg

― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

but, you know, honestly, capricorn records discography to thread. don't think anyone did this better than them. shelter maybe a distant second.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

need to get me some Hot Tuna

― clown nabisco (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.