Intonation Music Festival....Was it any good?

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L.S.F.!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 27 June 2001 02:44 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm beyond bummed that I wasn't able to see this. All indications were that this thing went off fabulously.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 27 June 2001 02:47 (twenty-four years ago)

four years pass...

Highlights? I was hoping to go this weekend but never made it.
I heard the DJ set from Dungen was dope.

― totoham, Monday, 18 July 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Yes.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 18 July 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it was great. I had a blast.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 July 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

I'll prob. write something about it later, but highlights were Go! Team, Tortoise, Out Hud, Les Savy Fav, and Diplo. The fest itself was remarkably well organized, too. Lines for food were sometimes long, but you never had to wait more than a couple of minutes for beer or bathrooms, and while there were thousands of people in the park, it never felt swarming. If you weren't into one of the bands, you could duck away from the stage and hang out in the shade, or go stake out a spot by the other stage for the next band, or whatever.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 July 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

The Decemberists and The Hold Steady were also very good, but I only caught half of each.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 July 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

jaymc OTM. this thing was way better than expected. i have to give the 'Forkers major props for pulling this thing off as smoothly as they did. i really hope this becomes an annual event.

― jonviachicago, Monday, 18 July 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

anyone catch broken social scene?

― Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Monday, 18 July 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

chuckle

― W i l l (common_person), Monday, 18 July 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

I saw some of it for free from the playground. It sounded like Coldplay.

― carbon (carbon), Monday, 18 July 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

i'm biased, but ... it was fantastic. favorite moment, not just of the weekend but perhaps, well, ever: a bunch of kids came off the playground to dance onstage with go! team. there are some photos of this floating around the nets, and they're great, but don't begin to capture the spontaneous magic of it. you all shoulda been there!

― asl, Monday, 18 July 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, this was pretty great. Go! Team was one of the most joyous shows I've ever seen, the kids just putting it over the top. Les Savy Fav and Hold Steady kicked ass, and the Decemberists were a really good headliner, though I didn't quite go bananas for 'em like all the people I was there with did. Thank God for clouds. and the spot in the shade we held down for most of Day 2. Also, the decision to let people bring in sealed containers of water (and not limit size, so we could bring in gallons) helped a lot, considering the lines for water and the heat. I really hope this happens again next year.

― Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Monday, 18 July 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

How was Dungen? I'm planning on seeing them tomorrow at empty bottle.

― temeraire (r h), Monday, 18 July 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Dungen was fantastic, the songs sounded twice as amazing live. they really seemed to be enjoying themselves, great crowd interaction. i wish i was going to see them again.

― jonviachicago, Monday, 18 July 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Any details about the Tortoise set?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 18 July 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Tortoise set was equally divided between TNT, Standards, and It's All Around You. Surprisingly loud and raucous at times, which I liked. Worked really nicely under the night sky.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 July 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Worst of the day: Will Oldham and Jean Grae playing songs from their lap/his/her laptop's iTunes folder. DJ Roomclearer in the house!

I really enjoyed the Wrens. They seemed to get off on the big crowd (15,000, say some estimates) more than any of the other acts, save perhaps Go! Team. Also, nice to see so many people paying attention to Andrew Bird.

Fave sight on day 2: the pick-up wiffleball game! And, man, everybody has a tattoo. Has this trend played out yet? In 20 years, when everyone's grandma has some scribble over their asscrack and every grandpa a tribal band, will young'n's think it the weirdest thing they've ever seen?

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 18 July 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

what on earth happened in this thread? How did you two post 4 years ago?

― deej.., Monday, 18 July 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha...the future/the past.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Monday, 18 July 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

BTW, what was with the announcement made before Xiu Xiu's set, wishing Thrill Jockey's Bettina Richards well? What happened to her?

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

the first set i cought was ac newman, who coincidentally started "under the table" with his guitar tuned a whole step low. so much for intonation. but he was funny about it and i enjoyed his set.

broken social scene seemed like for the most part they were goofing around, trying out new material (one song was a pavement reference, which was quite interesting) and going on about how much new york cops suck. it was ok, but nothing spectacular like when i saw them before.

i was really dissapointed by prefuse 73. part of what i like about them is the craziness in the beats and it was just scott and another drummer playing boom-boom-bap beats most of the time. dfa79 was energetic and fun, but too much of their music gives me a headache.

tortoise=great great great great

second day: the hold steady was quite great, i really enjoyed their set. it was energetic and they all got into it.

deerhoof actually bored me. not much else to say besides that. luckily, instead of going over to check out the wrens i sped up to the front of the stage to get a prime spot for les savy fav, and i was rewarded. tim herrington came out and was messing around with the crowd before the show. he took people's cameras up to the stage and took pictures of the crowd with them and talked to everyone and was just the coolest guy ever. their set was spectacular and energetic as hell. he walked right past me through the crowd shirtless and covered in soap just to have the whole crowd sit in a circle and make sex noises. quite amazing actually. he also brought a slip n slide into the audience during a guitar solo. the pit was intense; i left with a bloody big toe. that was by far the peak of the whole festival.

the decemberists were good, and played extremely well. i was very impressed, if a bit worn out from les savy fav. the mariner's revenge was great as an ender, as was chimbley sweep.

so thats my take, if anyone cares.

― jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

oh and that anouncer annoyed the crap out of me, although i loved the poet.

― jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

Do you not like Deerhoof, or was it just a lackluster set by them?

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

i love deerhoof, just half their set was a jam that went nowhere.

― jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Announcer = Tim Tuten, owner of the Hideout. I like him a lot, just because he's so over the top. It was fun to see him at a huge event like this, instead of doing the same shtick at his own tiny venue.

Poet = Thax Douglas. Yeah, he's an all right dude. I always say you know you've made it when Thax reads a poem for you. He's read for my band three times now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

THAX!!!!!!!!!

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Was that the most poem introductions Thax has ever done in one day?

And what's up with Bettina?

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea, Josh -- I didn't hear that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

i had expected this thing to be a real bust and was completely blown away at how great this event was. from the logistical end of things [thank you to the organizers for keeping everything reasonably priced!!!] to the bands, especially on day two -- this was something ill remember as being really fun.

cant wait for next year!

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah, most everything was very cheap. except for that one tent with the corn dogs. who pays four dollars for a fucking corndog!!!

seriously though, very well done.

― jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)

corndogs for corny indie rockers! ha.

you know what would have been awesome? if the crowd brought little cards that they could hold up and rate the bands. perhaps that could have given the day one acts the boost they needed.

best show of day one were the constantines at the empty bottle. seriously one of the best shows ive ever seen them do.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

Awesomefunforever, really. I was just psyched to see teenagers standing in the front rows, beaming those huge goofy uncontrollable smiles you maybe stop getting at shows so often once the years pass -- something about the vibes at this thing has really refreshed my enthusiasm about music.

― nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

i dunno, i loved deerhoof. i'd never seen them before, so maybe that made a difference. plus, i was close enough to see the drummer, who blew my mind. and she's fun to watch too.

out hud really blew me away. "only one thing to do when you're this hot: get hotter." i looked like a wet t-shirt contestant afterwards.

― teh Nü and Impröved john n chicago (frankE), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

what nick sylvester thought:

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/riffraff/archives/2005/07/pitchfork_indie.php

― eddytor, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

It's kinda funny how he puts down the "rock and roll cliche" ... I wonder if he's heard the cliche about the indie-rock scribe who acts all smug and cooler-than-thou in his reviews ... oh, the bitter touch of irony ...

― 30 Bangin' Tunes That You've Already Got ... IN A DIFFERENT ORDER! (Barry Brune, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I suppose that somebody will argue that it was all tongue in cheek. We should probably spare ourselves from the ensuing discussion, which we've probably had a million times.

― 30 Bangin' Tunes That You've Already Got ... IN A DIFFERENT ORDER! (Barry Brune, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Nick Sylvester flabbergasts me...rather, the attention he receives does. Carry on my wayward hipster.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Why does he use a pen name, "Nick Sylvester"?

― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Re: Bettina -- my Chicago friends told me she suffered a brain aneurysm last week. She apparently checked herself into the hospital with a severe headache, and fortunately the doctors diagnosed it in time and she's going to be ok.

― stuber, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Geez! That's terrible ... very good thing they caught it -- that's exactly how Phil Bonnett passed away, isn't it?

― nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

Nick's a fine writer! I just wish his interviews weren't so awkward. He'd act like a total ass when they were fiction and only slightly like a tool now that they're real. Either bug out or treat them with a modicum of respect! You only look like a needledick when you waffle.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Bettina of Thrill Jockey? (Why do I get the feeling, I'm thinking of the wrong label? Is it Drag City? D'oh!).

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

oh my goodness! im releived to hear they caught it just in time. im sending out good vibes for bettina.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/19/arts/music/19pitc.html?

sanneh on intonation.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

No, you're right, Brett -- it's TJ.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I still wish I'd at least caught a glimpse of Kelefa!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Him and mark p.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Kelefa's article was damn good. Its refreshing to see someone write with smarts and wit.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

(Full disclosure: the world of pop criticism is small and cranky, and plenty of critics have probably found themselves mentioned in Pitchfork reviews, including one who rather enjoyed being compared to a dog who "might need to be put down." No hard feelings.)

Haha, what review is this from?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

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― Nick Sylvester, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

actually there's no excuse for laptoppers not bragging and leading the crowd in chants with a headset mic during their sets.

I don't blame LSF for shit. They're great! They're not more commercial cuz they're on a smaller label and Tim likes to write little stories more often than big hooks. Nothing wrong with that.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Plus he's a chubby balding dude with a beard who likes to make lo-fi videos and that did shit for Doug Martsch despite years on Warner Bros.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

No, I love LSF, too! I'm just sayin'...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I have no problem with these bands NOT being commercial, I just think its silly to say they COULDN'T be even if they wanted to.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

and hell even the instrumental snoozers could hook the Yanni audience probably if they did a christmas album.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

I guess I've spent too much time in ILM-ville since I thought indie bands had started moving away from this philosophy.

These days, mentioning "selling out" on an indie-rock board results in a smack-down, so to a great extent I think indie bands have. The Albini-essay feeling that Majors Will Fuck You definitely persists, though.

Back when they were starting out, W1n But13r of the Arc4d3 F1r3 was totally 100% all about getting onto a major. He didn't give a fuck about indie-rock traditions - he wanted to be on the radio, like New Order or The Cure. This resulted in a fair bit of contempt from his peers. (I def think he'd have signed to a major if they had offered a few years ago; investigating ppl like Absolutely Kosher/Secretly Canada/Merge was [INITIALLY] a v grudging process.) After a few years, though, I think he's gotten really disillusioned about the majors - both from talking to people in the (very indie) Montreal scene, and from seeing how few of the rock bands that make it to the radio are what he'd call exciting.

All this to say that I think some bands (like the AF) want mainstream success, but now don't see it as having to come via the normal top40 route. There's a new path that's opening up, the kinda O.C. - festival s - alt.radio thing. It's worked great for Death Cab and Wilco. (NB: Yeah, both are on majors now. :) )

This doesn't, of course, have any relevance to whether a given band sounds "hungry" or not.

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

are LSF even an active band anymore? my understanding is that they came out of hiatus for this show. and the one next month.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

yeah that's what i heard.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

A truly hungry band would never, ever quit until they hit the top.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

http://image.com.com/mp3/images/cover/200/drc600/c613/c61385ccbg8.jpg

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't want my music to be fucking noble.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

if that was addressed at me i think you misunderstood.

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

http://www.looknfeel.com/images/NobleDog.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

I've hardly ever been to any all-day festivals and I'm curious -- is there an event in the U.S. that manages to cut across race/class/genre lines? I have a hard time visualizing such a thing.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

No no.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Mark, chill. Like I said, this is about indie bands, not Intonation or even Pitchfork.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

("No no" addressed to Sean, sorry.)

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I think Mark was responding to a direct criticism made in the KS article, not necessarily the turn this thread has taken.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

yeah Mark, rein in that anger

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Don't fucking tell me what to do.

;-)

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I would love to hear exactly how these (strawman?) bands are keeping themselves down intentionally in a noble anti-mainstream choice as opposed to just doing what they like to do and playing a type of music (whatever style it is) that doesn't appeal to a mass audience.

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Gear!, that basically sums up my point throughout this thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Eek, "just doing what they like to do."

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

Expand, Eppy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

I realize that it is shocking that some musicians (that are not that successful commercially, wtf!) are still doing exactly what they want to do and will continue doing it

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

My favorite bizzarism in this thread-so-far is the moment where world-conquering "hunger" morphs through "swagger" and just becomes "bands who try to rock out" -- what in the world is there to support that one? For all we know, Harrington and Finn were strutting around the stage figuring that was the biggest audience they'd ever want, and Jamie Stewart was sweating over his autoharp and thinking "yes, we're gonna make it, I want every teenager in America to contemplate suicide to my greatest-hits collection." For all we know, A.C. Newman goes home and tries to figure out how to get his "perfect pop" on the radio, the way it might have been at some point in the 1970s. It's just weird -- equating market-ambition with playing power chords isn't just strange and rockist, it's also weirdly contrary to reality and what's actually kinda on the radio.

Adam Schleschinger got a Grammy nomination and a Fountains of Wayne song in a Diet Dr. Pepper commercial: What does this mainstream "hunger" mean at all?

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

I imagine Hot 97's shit is probably pretty damn diverse. not musically. But in terms of the audience.

― deej.., Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

It means ROCK CRITICS BE SUCKING THE FUN OUT OF EVERYTHING AS USUAL.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

The fact that Sanneh is frustratingly unclear about what exactly he means?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

"I wish Godard would drop that weird art film schtick and make an action film with Bruckheimer. Where's the hunger??"

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

I'm fighting the urge to post lots of Perry Farrell pics.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

The idea that indie bands are just a bunch of idiot savants, outsider artists with no capacity for artistic choice, is both absurd and dangerous. It's obvious that every musician makes a million choices, and that there's rarely just one thing that you "like to do," but we also all know (especially those of us who have been in bands) that there's always a certain degree of calculation involved with being a musician who makes music for public consumption. So you may be "doing what you want to do" in the broadest sense, i.e. being a musician making music, but there are a lot of practical choices you make along the way to acheiving that goal.

All bands are "doing what they want to do" in some way or another, but that in no way precludes making decisions with the goal of more people hearing your music.

And, I should point out, Sanneh's not talking about intentionality, he's talking about the actual sound of the music.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

he's talking about the actual sound of the music.

A metal festival would sate him then. All those cookie monsters - rife with hunger!

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha, see, I do wish Godard had made an action pic. Especially with Bruckheimer!

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

you assume that all these bands (name names!), ones that have achieved a level of success most musicians can only dream of, have made choices to NOT go commercial. i don;t think anyone's said they don't have the choice, they've just made a different choice.

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

i mean sure, I have no doubt a band or two out there, maybe even at this fest, could streamline things a little bit and churn out some more palatable music to appeal to a wider audience, but if they personally feel that's not what they want to do, who can say they're wrong?

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I’ve used the word shaman to describe the rock singer, and, while that may be overstatement, shamanism should be the aspiration. It’s a responsibility, to aspire to change people’s lives through song, and it demands aesthetic distance and a kind of magic: behind the fourth wall, behind the microphone.

Bands, meanwhile, should accept the responsibility of instrumental skill, of ambition, of grandeur; thinking band and audience equal was punk’s fallacy. In real life, perhaps, but not in music.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

That quote doesn't address scale, though. I'm sure every rock singer aspires to this shaman thing.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Well duh obviously, Eppy -- that's precisely what we're talking around. There's this strange implication in the whole "hunger" schtick that maybe intentionality is exactly the issue, that maybe these bands are specifically calculating to keep themselves working in a certain pool of mid-sized safety. And there's just too much to that implication to cast it around lightly. For one thing, there's no reason not to imagine that they wouldn't be happy to conquer the world as-is, or that on some level they think they could; how many indie bands have gone on for years at mid-size before a popular audience came around to basically what they'd been doing all along? For another thing, this world-conquering stuff manages to evade all of the actual economic dynamics that actually shape the potential for world-conquering, as well as the fact that the indie band who sets straight out to conquer usually winds up with no label and a pile of debt and a crap album to their name, as opposed to the un-hungry mid-path band with the potential for a big audience. (Who seems closer to mass appeal right now, the Decemberists or OK GO?)

(He's totally unclear, I know, John, that's what I'm finding funny -- that the only thing we can really do is interpret the "swagger" part as meaning uptempo excitement, despite the fact that Norah Jones sells a hell of a lot more records than M.I.A.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

Clapton has more swagger and cockiness than T-Bone Ford, that's for sure

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

T-Model, rather

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

For the record I can't think of more than a half-dozen recent non hip-hop acts who "sound" like they want to take over the world and then actually sell very many records. For an MC it's necessary and beautiful thing, but when it comes to guitar music the biggest successes sound nothing like world-conquerors; apart from a couple metal acts, the chart-toppers sound more like they just want to conquer a nearby sofa and a bottle of merlot.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Staind wants to conquer that walk to and from the mailbox every afternoon

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

OK, so who is worse: Indie-Rock Bands or Indie-Rock Critics?

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

or indie-rock-critics critics?

― teh Nü and Impröved john n chicago (frankE), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

I'M FIGHTING THE URGE TO TAKE MY PANTS OFF

― Rumpusroom, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

I'M MASSAGING YOUR SHOULDERS...MMM THAT FEELZ GOOD

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

IM SLIPPING OFF MY PANTIES

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

For God's sake will somebody please rate this thread on a scale of 0.0 to 10.0???!! Because I'm feeling a little 1.2 at this point.

― Rob Uptight (Rob Uptight), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

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