Jenny Eliscu (Rolling Stone)'s review of CKY's "An Answer Can Be Found":
"Perhaps the most noteworthy thing about CKY is the ardor of their fans, the CKY Alliance, whose bragging rights include having bombarded this magazine with pissed-off e-mails after we gave the band's previous album a two-star review. Here we go again. The presence of Bam Margera's brother Jess on drums may keep CKY aligned with the skate-punk scene, but 'An Answer Can Be Found' is mind-numbing stoner metal, with ginormous power chords, repetitive vocals and overwrought lyrics ('Invaded by a swarm of confliction'? Ex-squeeze me?). 'Don't Hold Your Breath', 'Suddenly Tragic' and 'The Way You Lived' all renounce suicide, which may be a case of CKY living down their name, which is short for Camp Kill Yourself. 'Why put the gun to your head if you're already dead?' singer Deron Miller asks on 'Suddenly Tragic'. One good reason: to drown out the sound of 'An Answer Can Be Found'."
Deron Miller's (CKY) response to Jenny Eliscu's review:
"If Rolling Stone was ever a credible music magazine, it certainly no longer is. They actually paid some woman that calls herself Jenny Eliscu money to write a review of our new album that isn't even suitable for inclusion in a free high-school fanzine. She gives the album one star based on the behavior our fans (the CKY Alliance) exhibited after our last disc got two stars. They raided the RollingStone.com message boards demanding for it to be revised. How predictable, tiresome and unprofessional it is for a magazine of this stature to have Jenny Eliscu employed there as a 'journalist,' with her personal playlists only consisting of Top 10 platinum acts. Jenny actually uses the term 'ex-squeeze me' in her review after citing lyrics from our album that she just simply isn't intelligent enough to understand. This woman should be fired for this trash. I can be juevenile and 'clever,' too, Jenny. By saying things like 'Jenny's friends and family should know that she is an aging, ugly skank, and I really pray that she doesn't live too much longer'... Jenny Eliscu... no stars."
CKY's "An Answer Can Be Found" sold 27,786 copies in the United States in its first week of release to debut at No. 35 on next week's The Billboard 200 chart.
― bill halsey, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)
Hey now wait one minu...
Let me just say I haven't heard anything by this band but doesn't her description match a helluvalotta rock bands? Were they this harsh on Weezer's last album? It is comparable to giving a rap album a thrashing because it "featured few memorable melodies, relied too much on the beat and featured little to no singing (they talked over the music!)".
― Cunga (Cunga), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)
― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)
They let *gasp* a woman review our punk rock album!!
― PB, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)
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― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)
― Sym Sym (sym), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)
I can't believe you actually paid some woman to review our album. Obviously, the only reason she gave it one star is that our fans bombarded your magazine with mail, and had this not happened, you would have given it the two stars that it deserved, like our last album. Additionally, I'd like to point out that this Jenny can't possibly have any legitimate reason to dislike the album, and must therefore be sexually frustrated."
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)
― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)
― GodAwful, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)
Try telling that to George W Bush Jnr.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)
grrrrr.
CKY: We know some famous people.
― nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)
1 entry found for confliction.
con·flict ( P ) Pronunciation Key (knflkt)n. A state of open, often prolonged fighting; a battle or war. A state of disharmony between incompatible or antithetical persons, ideas, or interests; a clash. Psychology. A psychic struggle, often unconscious, resulting from the opposition or simultaneous functioning of mutually exclusive impulses, desires, or tendencies. Opposition between characters or forces in a work of drama or fiction, especially opposition that motivates or shapes the action of the plot.
intr.v. con·flict·ed, con·flict·ing, con·flicts (kn-flkt)To be in or come into opposition; differ. Archaic. To engage in warfare.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[Middle English, from Latin cnflctus, collision, from past participle of cnflgere, to strike together : com-, com- + flgere, to strike.]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------con·fliction n. con·flictive adj. con·flictu·al (kn-flkch-l) adj. Synonyms: conflict, contest, combat, fightThese nouns denote struggle between opposing forces for victory or supremacy. Conflict applies both to open fighting between hostile groups and to a struggle between antithetical forces: “The kind of victory MacArthur had in mind... victory by expanding the conflict to all of Chinawould have been the wrong kind of victory” (Harry S. Truman). “Fortunately analysis is not the only way to resolve inner conflicts” (Karen Horney). Contest can refer either to friendly competition or to a hostile struggle to achieve an objective: a spelling contest; the gubernatorial contest. Combat most commonly implies an encounter between two armed persons or groups: “Alexander had appeared to him, armed for combat” (Connop Thirlwall). Fight usually refers to a clash involving individual adversaries: A fight was scheduled between the world boxing champion and the challenger. “There is nothing I love as much as a good fight” (Franklin D. Roosevelt). See also synonyms at discord
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)
C'mon, even he thinks his own record's shit.
― Scream! Scrovula, Scream! (noodle vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)
Do Rolling Stone reviewers really say "Ex-squeeze me"?
Fricke has used it, too:
"... so it's no surprise that this fine collection of 1910 Fruitgum Company outtakes bleeds with the plucky band's infectious ex-squeeze and bubblegum glee..."
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)
- Half Man Half Biscuit, 'Bad Review'
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
No winners.
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)
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― todd (todd), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)
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― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)
He's the one trotting out sales numbers to say that sales = quality. Which is a game he loses.
"Main claim to fame" = an ILM thread?
I've gotten and given glowing and scathing reviews. That's showbiz. Deal.
And by the way, if you don't think the CKY Alliance isn't unified at least partially around the principle that "old fogeys like Rolling Stone hate us" and would disintegrate if the band got four stars and sold R. Kelly numbers of records, well, ha.
― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
Actually, he's not. You misread the first post. The Deron Miller quote ends with "...no stars", and the record sales part was added by whoever writes the news at blabbermouth.net.
― Guy Incognito (Guy Incognito), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)
-- loafingoaf (loafe...), July 19th, 2005.
Yeah, but anyone with a shred of pride or dignity wouldn't go flaming journalists for writing bad reviews.
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)
The journalist I was referring to was not you. I had no idea you were one.
― loafingoaf, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
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― loafingoaf, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
I only mentioned the reviews I've gotten and given to explain that I do know what I'm talking about; specifically, that I've been on the receiving end of scathing reviews and, while tempted, knew that it would be truly lame to write in and complain.
I'll shut up and get back to work now.
Waitaminnute this just showed up:As Ebert has rightfully pointed out, no one ever bitches about critics or attacks their credibility when they're given a positive review. -- Josh in Chicago (Vitesse9...)
Or says "who cares what the critics think?"
OK, NOW I'll shut up and get back to work.
― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)
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― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)
that wasn't the point of my posting that info at all. she's been an editor at RS for a while! I've seen her as a talking head on VH1! she'd obviously risen to some level of reknown as a critic before this. I was just pointing out that CKY and their fans have turned their response to her review into a media campaign and have managed to obscure whatever reputation she had previously.
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)
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