S&D: Pre-acid, non-electro hip-hop TB-303 use

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Well I know of:

Paul Haig - "Justice"
Imagination - "In the Heat of the Night"

Any others?

Thanks

― Crunk with Christ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Alexander Robotnick's Problems D'amour is my prime example.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

'dancing ghosts' by cti, aka chris and cosey. possibly the first ever 303 track. it's awesome too.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

This has plenty of reccomendations:

http://www.discogs.com/release/1949

But several songs listed are not the 303.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Klein & MBO's "Dirty Talk" at least sounds like a 303 to me.

― Rich (Rich), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

here's the chris and cosey / cti track -

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1E65T15POIUTN3VTUQO5PZ38R4

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Thankee!

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i followed the discogs link above and the second to last post on the page mentions that there are pink floyd records that use this "sound". are there actually pink floyd songs that use a 303? the thought of it got a laugh out of me anyway. this chris and cosey track is great.

― tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

That Chris and Cosey track is great..

Whitehouse used a 303 on many occasions..

― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh...didn't Pink Floyd disband in a sense before the invention of the TB303 (not counting post-Waters efforts)?

I feel that remark illustrates best that some kids think most analog gear sounds similar and are willing to link it to Acid House as that is considered a starting point for the current state of Global Electronic Dance music (ugh).

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

no, there aren't pink floyd tracks that use it. they used an ems synthi ('on the run') which is very vaguely along the same lines as the sound a 303 might produce.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for the replies, everyone.

I do know what you mean, and I think journalists are to blame for the worst of it. However, I'd rather hear a 16th note resonant sequence misidentified as 303 than hear another rocker blindly refer to analog sounds as Moog.

― Crunk with Christ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ilm'er Jess referred to the 303's "MIDI bleep" in his pitchfork review of the soul jazz Acid comp. What he meant to say was "MIDI data sent to a 909 using the 909 DCB sync out bleep"

Or I think the MSQ-70 sequencer has both MIDI and DCB?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

vomit

― Crunk with Christ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

MIDI has no sound, dog

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

and the 303 has no MIDI.

I'm assuming the "vomit" comment is a response to the slight error in referring to "MIDI bleep", not my slightly tounge-in-cheak clarification...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

DINSYNC HAS NO SOUND, DOG ;)

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

what about gate and CV?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

KENTON CONVERTORS, bitches

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU THE MIDIMAN NOW, DOG.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

yo does any of you like GANGSTA STYLE STUDIO GEAR TALK!!!!!!! if you dont now WHAT THE FUCK GANGSTA STYLE STUDIO GEAR TALK IS DONT ask ME ..... .....................BITCH !!!!!!!!!!!! peace out

― tat perry, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Arpeggio Trigger IN, muthafuckah.

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I NEED A KENTON PRO-SOLO MK 2 NOW UP IN MY CRIB, YO!!!!!!!

(no really, anyone have one lying around?)

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm assuming the "vomit" comment is a response to the slight error in referring to "MIDI bleep", not my slightly tounge-in-cheak clarification...

I don't wanna shit all over someone's writing, I don't know this person and it was far from the worst review I've ever read, but that (in its context, I should add) coupled with some other sections of blathering really irritated the shit out of me.

If you guys would like to plug DC into your mixer and find out if it makes sound, be my guest.

Arpeggio Trigger IN, muthafuckah.

It doesn't have that either, bitch!

yo does any of you like GANGSTA STYLE STUDIO GEAR TALK!!!!!!! if you dont now WHAT THE FUCK GANGSTA STYLE STUDIO GEAR TALK IS DONT ask ME ..... .....................BITCH !!!!!!!!!!!! peace out

fuck u hoe what u know bout these rolands, these mothafuckin kawais, these mothafuckin akais, these mothafuckin ensoniqs nigga. y'aint know NOTHIN bout these god damn emus bitch. we got these vst plug-ins, mothafuckin circuit bent shit all tricked out. you a non-studio gangsta, trick.

― Crunk With Christ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel compelled to say that the worst uninformed dicknosed MIDI reference I've seen in a review was MIDI feedback.

― Crunk with Christ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

emu tastes really good. sometimes you don't even know it's not ground beef.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://mako.cc/copyrighteous/images/emu.jpg

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

damn it, the image was too big. hola philip.

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

There really is such a thing as MIDI feedback. But obviously I don't know the context of the review you're talking about and I'm sure it was typical music writer faux-technical nonsense.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The 909 does not have DCB. Just midi, din sync, and trig out.

The Jupiter8, juno 6, and 60 had DCB. Which was rolands's version of voice stacking before sequential beat them to the punch with their version of voice stacking called midi, which coincidentally can do a alot more than just stack the voices of two poly synths from one keyboard. Funny thing, the idea that that is all midi was ever meant to do.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and since we is being all gansta and shit:

REAL GANSTA ASS MOTHAFUKKAZ MAKE DEY BEATS IN FRUITYLOOPS BITCH.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck a 303, gimmicky little cunt

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

does the 303 take din sync? My statement above was based on the memory of a friend's studio, I remember how the 909 took MIDI, and then he connected the 909 to the 808 to sync it, I thought the 303 was sync'd the same way.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

SYSTEMS, triggah!

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck a 303

where? In the din sync?

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

MIDI COCK TEMPO LOCK

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Bassline Baseline is a video essay that investigates the invention, failure and subsequent resurrection of the mythic Roland TB-303 Bass Line music machine in the last two decades of the 20th century. The narrative seeks to invite thoughts on technological mediation within product innovation and creative expression. The dead-panned 'documentary' video attempts to explore how and why creative tools fail and how increasingly more options, parameters or intermediaries devised during a tool's research and development phase don't necessarily lead to increased expressivity or virtuosity during the tool's lifetime of actual use, unless the super-structure of its cultural context is dramtically reconsidered.

― John Cocktolstoy (John Cocktolstoy), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That Bassline Basline doc is almost unwatchable, thanks to the ridiculous voiceover.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, that's where I found out about the Paul Haig and Imagination tracks. I agree with Tantrum, but you should note that it is an installation piece which justifies being a pretentious clown. If you think that's bad, watch his doc on the Amen break.

― Crunk with Christ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Those docs sound flawed in theory before the narration is even written...

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

orange juice "rip it up" - right?

― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

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