THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GRIME AND REGGAETON ON BBC WORLD SERVICE

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APPARRENTLY BRITISH PEOPLE JUST HEARD "GASOLINA"

I AM SERIOUS.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

They are curious if Daddy Yankee will have more English lyrics in the future. They are concerned for his success is he doesn't.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Jon, why is this surprising?

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Notes:

- Lady Soverign is known to "Sov" as her friends.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

What kind of communities do you think prove the biggest markets for reggaeton?

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I haven't heard Gasolina. Reggaeton isn't exactly well known in the UK.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

No, not like Bhangra, for example.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

"Lady Soverign is like a little hoodlum you wouldn't want living near you."

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

This is really funny.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

You're such a wind-up merchant.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Gasolina has been all over MTV like a rash, and is getting displayed prominently in mainstream record shops this week on singles racks (in the UK, I was in a few today, £17 for a fucking Fannypack non-import CD??! You're having a LAUGH.).

Gasolina doesn't seem to be obscure.. dunno about the other songs in this style.

(I don't care for it much myself if this is typical of 'Reggaeton' :( )

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't think it's the obscurity that Jon is balking at, only that this song is well over a year old and extremely played out in the US.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

None of which is important in the grand scheme of things, but let's pretend it all matters.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

The world service isnt for The UK.

its for people in the rest of the world that have a shortwave radio and couldnt even dream of a dial up connection.

So its pretty cool, that maybe when youre in indonesia or Lagos or Uzbekistan, you might get talking to a local and they might even know what reggaeton is.

Hell, they might even care.

― danny boy, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Right, there's that too. Who in Britain listens to the World Service???

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Insomniacs, when R4 takes a feed from them from 01:00 - 05:00.

― danny boy, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Daddy Yankee is #8 in the midweeks, for what it's worth.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

What kind of communities do you think prove the biggest markets for reggaeton?

Outside my goddamn window, Brooklyn, New York

― Rob Uptight (Rob Uptight), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

'Gasolina' ain't all that.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

The tone is soooo patronizing whenever they talk about anything that doesn't derive from the Anglo world's cultural tradition.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

The tone is soooo patronizing whenever they talk about anything that doesn't derive from the Anglo world's cultural tradition.

Like patchouli?

― Rob Uptight (Rob Uptight), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

Some posts seem to have been lost. (What the fuck? I started writing been "eeb"--what a weird typo.)

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

What?

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

Can't say I much care for reggaeton. It's basically just the obnoxious music I hear blasting out of cars everywhere -- it's like the new Miami bass or trance.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Anyway NPR/WNYC already did a feature on it like 3 months ago.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I'm getting it mixed up with the other thread.

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(I'm basically underwhelmed with it. I like a few songs, and I think it could end up going places I'd like, but I either don't like most of what I've heard or find it nothing special, though tolerable.)

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

Right but we're talking about its British reception, not U.S. coverage.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I know, I was just being half-heartedly snotty. It's really fucking hot here and I have a headache.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

wnyc runs bbc world service every 9 am weekday morning! i fucking hate it. the main guy is so obnoxious.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

I admit I'm a little schizoid about it. It's kind of fun, but then I listen to a collection of the hottest reggaeton tracks for a particular month or any number of the major albums, and it just seems like crap. But I kind of like hearing it coming from cars. (It's usually not excessively loud when I hear it from passing cars. Maybe the relative modest bass involved makes it less obnoxious to me in that context?)

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

What the fuck is "reggaeton"?

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

But now there's so much sloshing about of threads of influence that it's hard to predict where it will go. You have lots of different Latino groups picking it up now, and if they end up adding in a lot of their own national/ethnicity-specific sounds, it could get very interesting.

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― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I listen to BBC World Service from time to time as well. There's one young female reporter that always asks these really saucy, overly-prodding questions, and I kind of like her and dislike her at the same time.

Rockist, maybe it's actually the lack of bass, the tinniness that makes it so obnoxious to me. I do like dancehall, after all, and that has much more bass.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

So how many years before a Justin Timberlake or Britney-type song has a reggaeton-style beat?

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

how many weeks is probably more like it

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

The BBC World Service is wayy stuffier than any of the other BBC stations, there's a world of difference. I recommend that Jon, hstencil and Hurting listen to Cameo or Semtex on 1xtra or maybe even Matthew Bannister or Up All Night on Radio 5.

Still, it beats NPR! blech.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

i don't have shortwave, dude.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

Internet!

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

what's the internets?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/

I think the 1xtra shows can be a bit underrated in terms of finger-on-the-pulseness: the first place I ever heard Riko's "Chosen One" was on Femme Fatale's show way back in mid-2003, she used to rave about how Riko was the best MC and Target the best producer in grime.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

I have my BBC radio widget on Radio 1 now I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

I'll only be happy when you report back here about how crap it all is, Jon. :)

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

Also I think you'd prefer Radio 5. There'll really be some things for you to hate on there. Go listen to an hour of two of cricket coverage, then we 'll talk.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

I'll only be happy when you report back here about how crap it all is, Jon. :)

-- Adam In Real Life (adamr...) (webmail), July 20th, 2005 11:41 PM. (nordicskilla) (later) (link)

I HATE IT EXCEPT FOR THE SOUND OF GREEN DAY WITH CRAPPY REAL AUDIO COMPRESSION

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

wait that was radio1, 1xtra REALLY sux

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

The BBC 5 stream don't work.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

I do a pretty spot-on impression of BBC World Service on-location feature stories -- the cadences and whatnot.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

You should hear my New Jersey accent. Brooooooce.

1xtra REALLY sux

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

I should listen to Resonance more.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

OMG SEMTEX GOT EXCALIBAH FIRED FOR NOT PLAYING ENOUGH DEF JAM!!!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm seriously thinking about buying a Reggaeton compilation from Virgin today cos I feel like I'm missing out. It is £15 - do I or don't I get it?

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Not unless it's good, no.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

> Who in Britain listens to the World Service???

it's listen-again-able so british people can (peel used to do a show):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/index.shtml?logo

which show was this jon?

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

It was some little music bit after the news.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

found it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/white_label.shtml

warning, contains Mark Goodier!

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahaha!

I like the way Goodier says "Pwerta Ric-ow".

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't find this all that patronizing, I guess it might sound different to someone who has only heard US radio and nothing else.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Also, it's MARK GOODIER.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

1xtra tends to amaze.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

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