this is a serious question.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)
― David Oz, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)
― David Oz, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)
neither of them are satanists.
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)
― David Oz, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)
As a result, his sci-fi, some of which is fair to good, was verbose and much longer than it had to be. "To the Stars" is exactly like that. A concept album based on a short story about a trip on a rocket ship, with interludes -- way too may -- devoted to looking out the porthole at "the stars." ZZZZZZZZZZ.
Return to Forever's "Romantic Warrior" doesn't show any L. Ron Hubbard or obvious scientology influence. For a multitude of reasons, it's a much better record. My perception is the Elektrik band is supposed to be Return to Forever with L. Ron Hubbard sci-fi overlays.
Not worth the price of admission.
― George Smith, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)
No, I didn't. I just said the fundies are right, which is true, according to their paradigm, which says that Satan is a sneaky devil and all other religions are the work of the devil.
― David Oz, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)
― David Oz, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)
― Spoooooooooky, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)
― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)
Tell me more about this plz >_>
Scientology is an offshoot of Crowleyism, which in itself was very popular in the 60's with the "do what thou wilt" attitude of moral relativism and the black majik stuff. For more information on those two you should check out L Ron Hubbard Jr.'s interview with Penthouse in 1983 (which should be around one of these topics, I think the Katie Holmes scientology one to be particular).
Know what I want to see a topic on? The weird link between arty post-modern bands and their obsessions with homosexuality, the occult, and Nazism. Coil, David Bowie and the industrial types come to mind immediately but usually when there is one of those you will find at least one other trait. Kenneth Anger was mentioned earlier and coincidentally was going to have Coil score one of his new films before a member died. Crowley himself was a huge pervert and was known to participate in many sex acts which are still illegal today I believe.
It is important to note also that one of the first things Scientologists do is make you admit to all of your kinky sexual sins and fantasies as part of their notorious auditing process. Is it any coincidence that their most famous members are notorious for scandalous sex lives (Cruise, Travolta, Errol 'If it moves I'm a a tappin' it' Flynn)?
I also can't think of a famous rock artist that professes a love of Crowley and didn't have at least one homosexual member or a semi-famous gay rumor (the only one I can think of is Black Sabbath and Sting, although he just mentioned Crowley off hand once I think)
I don't know why there is also a fasciniation with Nazism among many of these people but I suppose it might be through the occult and homosexual background of the Nazis.
*Note: I'm not making causation but merely correlation between some of these things. Many of the correlations like David Bowie being interested in all of these things just popped into my head as I was writing it.
I think I should just make a separate topic. I didn't mean to wander off a bit.
― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)
he was a Scientologist?
― latebloomer: lazy r people (latebloomer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)
http://www.ronthenut.org/penthous.htm
― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)
― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
Current 93 = Thelemic egregore (Crowley, OTO)
Boyd Rice = (Magister of Church of Satan.) Boyd Rice has gained noteriety through his work as a musician (under the name NON), prankster, countercultural instigator, and misanthropist. Being a high ranking member in the Church of Satan, a long time associate in the Partridge Family Temple, founder of the infamous Abraxas Foundation, and currently working on a book on the Luciferian Legacy of the Holy Grail, Mr. Rice has put the occult back into culture.
Death In June = David Tibet was a member of 23 Skidoo and formed Current 93 in 1982. After meeting Pearce at a club in 1983, Tibet began working with Death in June. Upon meeting Tibet, Pearce began to devote more of his time to various occultic disciplines that markedly affected his approach to composing music. A longtime practioner of rune magic, Pearce introduced them to Tibet. Tibet similarly had been long interested in ceremonial magick and implemented occult concepts into his early recordings with Current 93. He contributed to two of Death in June's more acclaimed LP's: The World that Summer (1986) and Brown Book (1987). He continued his work with Death in June, through 1992's apocalyptic folk LP, But, What Ends When the Symbols Shatter?. Pearce also contributed to Current 93 projects, including the pagan folk LP, Swastikas for Noddy, released in 1988. http://www.answers.com/topic/death-in-june
--- By my Sonic Youth, I was referring to Jim O'Rourke.
― David Oz, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
― Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
― David Oz, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)
― David Oz, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)
― Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)
― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
From Durtro: It now seems the full line-up on this album will be: David Michael, Michael Cashmore, Steven Stapleton, Ben Chasny, Marc Almond, Cosey Fanni Tutti, Will Oldham, Shirley Collins, Andria Degens, Antony, Baby Dee, John Contreras, William Breeze, James William Hindle, William Basinski and Charlemagne Palestine.
― Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: lazy r people (latebloomer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)
just picked up stanley clarke's "children of forever"
EXTREMELY SCIENTOLOGICAL
http://991.com/newGallery/Stanley-Clarke-Children-Of-Forev-314490.jpg
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 August 2009 02:32 (sixteen years ago)
"Create space — then place something in it." According to Hall of Fame drummer Ed Soph, @ChickCorea typed this leaflet up on his old Smith-Corona typewriter, and used to hand it out at clinics. (H/T Rare Jazz Photos) cc: @LettersOfNote pic.twitter.com/BRBaWKpZ2s— Nate Chinen (@natechinen) February 6, 2020
― j., Thursday, 6 February 2020 07:14 (six years ago)