Vienna by Ultravox: classic or dud?

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This sounds pretentious to me,
This sounds pretentious to me,
Oh, Vienna!
Da-da, da-da-da-da, pshhhhh
Da-da, da-da-da-da, pshhhhh

jeremy beadle and the damage done, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

I'll bet this was your favourite hit single of '81, eh?

I'm filled up with aggression
Want to smash your television
Saturday night you watch TV
Saturday night does nothing for me

Dead cities dead cities
Dead cities dead cities

See the man in the electric chair
They beat him up and shave his hair
There is no future to behold
In the city of dead you'll be there

Dead cities dead cities
Dead cities dead cities

Im getting wasted in this city
Those council houses are getting me down
Go up town, see who's there
There's nothing to do, it's getting me down

Dead cities dead cities
Dead cities dead cities

Snarling and gobbing and falling around
I really enjoy the freedom I've found
My mate's beside me, lying on the ground
His ears are bursting with the volume of sound

Dead cities dead cities etc. to fade

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

Classic.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Even if it does go OOOOOOnnnn Foreeeevveeeerrrrr!

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

No it doesn't. "Dead Cities" is about 90 seconds long. Tony Blackburn introduced them on TOTP you know.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

It's just that something about Midge Ure makes me want to put him on the ducking stool.

Anti-Pope Consortium (noodle vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

I'd rather have Bob "what a tart" Geldof on the ducking stool than poor old Midge "Actually Did All The Work" Ure.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

Bob I was saving for the stake.

Anti-Pope Consortium (noodle vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

I prefer "Fade To Grey" though.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

I prefer "No Regrets".

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Not!

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Of the Midge era, I suppose I used to like "The Thin Wall" and "Reap The Wild Wind". Remember seeing them live when I was a nipper and the audience hand-clapping during "Vienna" was sort of proto-"Radio Gaga". Horrible song though.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

I prefer "The Electrician" which even Midge confessed was a "major influence" on "Vienna." But Vienna and Rage In Eden are both pretty good albums.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

My mind still boggles at the thought of Midge being in Thin Lizzy. Wonder what Phil Lynnott made of him.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

"The Electrician" is one of the greatest-ever singles. "Vienna" is but a pale shadow. It's not bad I suppose, but I can't really imagine a time when I'll want to listen to Midge Ure-era Ultravox again.

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

"Yellow Pearl" to be precise.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

vienna is bland but i love "dancing with tears in my eyes" and like "the lament". i got the greatest hits on purple vinyl.

idge mure, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

I hate singers who project from the larynx rather than the belly; they often sound whiny.

Still, I love Ultravox's performance of this at Live Aid.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

classic. just. "visions in blue" is better.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

great video.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

"The Thin Wall" is great. "Vienna" isn't really, it's always listed as one of the great pop injustices that Joe Dolce beat it to #1 which makes me laugh, however a bold 'tache choice from Mr Ure.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

"New Europeans" and "Mister X" off the Vienna album are good too.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

I own a pair of his jeans. He's kinda short

tolstoy (tolstoy), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

My mind still boggles at the thought of Midge being in Thin Lizzy. Wonder what Phil Lynnott made of him.

There was a Mojo article about this a couple of years ago. What I remember is that Midge kept playing Kraftwerk albums in the tour bus and Lynott would get pissed off.

"Perfect Strangers" is totally ace.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Awesome song that I had forgotten about before being reintroduced to it through my wife's Live Aid DVD and the Left of the Dial box set ---both around Christmastime.

Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...
why HASN'T this song been sampled?!? it would be PERFECT.

but maybe it has and i am not aware of it.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 21 May 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

"Vienna" the song is classic bar none. One of the quinessential songs of the early 80s synthpop era, that sort of defined the genre along with "Don't You Want Me", "Tainted Love", "Just Can't Get Enough", "Only You" and "Enola Gay".

As for the album, it was kind of ambitious and didn't fulfill its ambitions one hundred per cent, but I still find it a nice listen.

Just let me add that "Quartet" is their most underrated album and possibly even their best.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 21 May 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

Love it. But I love Celestial Season's cover of it more.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

Just let me add that "Quartet" is their most underrated album and possibly even their best.

absolutely. the first album i ever bought (or had bought for me). i was six.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

(also: i opened this thread to post that "visions in blue" was better. but i see i already did that last year. fuck.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

big plodding melodramatic 80s pile of pretentiousness with no redeeming features

dr x o'skeleton, Monday, 22 May 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

I bought the album last week, as it happens. Both the album and the title track are totally 100% CLASSIC. One of the absolute high-points of eighties music.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

Classic, of course. Just barely, though, the 1st 3 albums were SO GOOD. In my opinion it was a slippery slope thereafter.

matt the queeg, Monday, 22 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Of course it's melodramatic, people... don't take it so seriously.

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

this song is beyond classic, and if you don't agree then you have cauliflowers for ears.

Eisbaer, Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:00 (seventeen years ago)

VIENNA IS THE BEST ULTRAVOX ALBUM YES IT IS EXCEPT IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET THE "COLLECTION" GREATEST HITS

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)

Also I listened to Midge Ure's early band The Rich Kids yesterday - their album "Ghosts of Princes In Towers" from 1978. It was actually really cool, sortof a mix of glam and punk.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

great song.

OHHH VIEEEENNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:10 (seventeen years ago)

This song is forever associated with quickly finished diners so we could watch the video as it came on Toppop (dutch national pop show).

willem, Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:11 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

I'm enjoying this record quite a bit, if not Midge Ure's contributions to it.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

omg those warbly synths all over this album

Booker van Permalink (Hunt3r), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

I'd like this record more if it was (a) instrumental; or (b) John Foxx had stuck around. Ure sings like a high school choir student auditioning for a Barbra Streisand album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:51 (seventeen years ago)

It means nothing to me...

Last night it was pullulating with (Michael White), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

I have been listening to this song on repeat all week.

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:20 (seventeen years ago)

The lyrics to New Europeans are almost Bernard Sumner-esque:

In a quiet street washed by the rain, the room within the home.
A lonely man sits cheek to cheek, with unique designs in chrome.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:29 (seventeen years ago)

That prompts unpleasant thoughts.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:32 (seventeen years ago)

"Unique" is too polysyllabic for Bernard.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

A photograph of lovers lost lies pressed in magazines
Her eyes belong to a thousand girls, she's the wife who's never seen
Their educated son has left in search of borrowed dreams
His television's in his bed, he's frozen to the screen

Proto-Bernard, surely. Especially the "frozen to the screen" bit, he means glued to the screen but it doesn't scan...

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:48 (seventeen years ago)

Seems more like what would happen if Gary Numan's dad wrote lyrics.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:49 (seventeen years ago)

The ARP Odyssey solos on this record absolutely kill -- Currie really created a totally unique solo instrument.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

pitch bend until it sounds like freaking theramin

Booker van Permalink (Hunt3r), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

I don't care that much for the title track, to be honest. Too much Midge, not enough Billy.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:18 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

Why didn't anybody tell me about the genius of Ultravox, I want to scream. I am listening to Vienna the album for the first time.

why HASN'T this song been sampled?!? it would be PERFECT.
but maybe it has and i am not aware of it.

It has been 'quoted' by Take That in their 2010 single "Eight Letters"-- which is embarrassingly but not surprisingly how I came to listen to Ultravox for the first time

Call me Ishmael (Ówen P.), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

which is embarrassingly but not surprisingly how I came to listen to Ultravox for the first time

seems fairly surprising to me tbh, I doubt many people came to Ultravox via ver That

anyway I'm not sure if Ultravox have ever played in Vienna (the city) before but they are coming here in October – will be so great to hear the song played in the city that inspired it

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

If you like the Vienna album, then you should get a lot out of Systems Of Romance (from the John Foxx era of the band) and Rage In Eden. All three were produced by the legendary Conny Plank, and still sound absolutely wonderful. Midge-era Ultravox post-Rage In Eden are a bit hit-and-miss in my opinion, but there's the occasional gem there; and the pre-Vienna stuff is definitely ALL worth checking out!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 25 June 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

It is SO WEIRD I missed this band. I went through a "let's get into Conny Plank" period ten years ago, tracked down pre-reissue "In the garden" etc. but never thought to listen to Ultravox and they're basically everything I like in one band

Call me Ishmael (Ówen P.), Monday, 25 June 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

It's funny, because I think the title track of the Vienna album is my LEAST FAVOURITE thing on there! I don't think it's a dud by any means, but I listen to that album for stuff like 'Astradyne', 'New Europeans', 'Private Lives', 'Passing Strangers' and 'Western Promise'.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 25 June 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Never heard this album cos the title track always put me off. Dumb really cos I do like the albums immediately before and after it.

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Monday, 25 June 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

If you like Systems Of Romance and Rage In Eden, I see no reason why you wouldn't like the Vienna album EVEN if you didn't like the title track. I think you'd get quite a lot out of Side One in particular. 'Vienna' itself doesn't appear until WELL into Side Two (it's the penultimate track on the album), and it flows in from the preceding track ('Western Promise'), so it does make a little more sense in the context of the album. It's still my least favourite thing on there, though. Easily.

In a way, I kinda resent 'Vienna' being such a big hit, because it tends to be the ONE Ultravox song that the majority of people know. I don't really think it truly represents the album of the same name, and nor do I think it truly represents the GOOD part of the Midge Ure era (1980-1981). It definitely doesn't represent the Foxx era.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 25 June 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)


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