How are / in what way are David Sylvian and Sting similar?

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In what ways are / how are they share a trajectory?

― Owen, Friday, 22 July 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

They both don't wan' you to stand too close to them, type answers.

― Owen, Friday, 22 July 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

The whole pseudy reference thing they each have going on - see the amount of Sylvian songs named after films. "Guilty of stealing every thought" - you said it yourself, Dave! And need I really mention Sting's nods to certain authors?

I like them both though (well, the Police much more than Sting's solo work).

― Deluxe (Damian), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

David Sylvian's "Secrets of the Beehive" was a sting.

― Owen, Friday, 22 July 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

The spirits in the material world blow wilder than the wind.

― Dio Roach, Friday, 22 July 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Both think trees are brilliant.

― Owen, Friday, 22 July 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Of course, the trumpet player Chris Botti has played with both Sting and David Sylvian in the past.

http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/5646/chris.jpg

― Dio Roach, Friday, 22 July 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

I thought I could hear Botti's trumping on David Sylvian's "Brilliant Trees".

― Owen, Friday, 22 July 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

trumpet guy looks sort of like a sylvian/sting mix

― dan (dan), Friday, 22 July 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

haha, i was gonna say the same thing.

― The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Saturday, 23 July 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

Ahh!! Someone posted a picture of Chris Botti. I'm in shock. What a way to redeem this thread.

― Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 July 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)

I liked his second album and the first song on his first album a lot.

― Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 July 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

This thread WILL catch on; and then there'll be bill'uns of copycat threads!!!

― Nifty and Lonely, Saturday, 23 July 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

OH I highly doubt that!

― Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 July 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

I suspect Owen started this thread because D. Sylvian was originally up for the part in "Brimstone & Treacle".

― Ian Doh, Saturday, 23 July 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

I did hear something about that, yes.

― Owen, Saturday, 23 July 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

Am I right?

― Ian Doh, Saturday, 23 July 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

Er, Yes.

― Owen, Saturday, 23 July 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

two of my most favorite songwriters/musicians in one thread. ILM impresses.

Both musicians walked away from the bands they fronted when their respective bands were at the height of their popularity.

Since going solo, both artists have dabbled with varying styles of music and their fans were willing to accept the experimentations and even had their musical horizons vastly grow in the process.

A large chunk of their fans are basically obsessed with the artist. Sting has a legion of scary ass soccer moms who continue to adore him because they were putting on makeup and coming of age while the Police were making their records. Sylvian has a cult following of adrogynous men who still adore him because they were putting on makeup and coming of age while Japan were making their records. These fans will seek out whatever product that Sylvian or Sting is featured on.

The trumpet player who has worked with both Sting and Sylvian would be the incredible Mark Isham. Chris Botti has never worked with David Sylvian.

― bahtology, Saturday, 23 July 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

"Chris Botti has never worked with David Sylvian".

Yes he HAS.

― Owen, Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

what is Botti on?

― bahtology, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

I don't think that Chris Botti and David Sylvian have collaborated as of yet. Though there is a chance that it may happen someday.

Trumpet/Flugelhorn players who have worked with Sylvian, and the discs they have performed on:

Jon Hassell (Brilliant Trees, Alchemy, Everything And Nothing)
Kenny Wheeler (Brilliant Trees, Alchemy, Gone To Earth, Dead Bees On A Cake, Everything And Nothing)
Mark Isham (Brilliant Trees, Secrets of the Beehive, Everything And Nothing. also toured with the In Praise of Shamans lineup)
Harry Beckett (Gone To Earth)
Markus Stockhausen (Flux + Mutability)
Nils Petter Molvaer (Camphor)

― meg, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

yes botti has never worked with sylvian on anything released AFAIK

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

http://citypaper.net/articles/040998/dq1.shtml

Sylvian's strumming while Botti's trumping on "Upper Extremeties".

― Nifty and Lonely, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Chris Botti HAS worked with Sting, though, yes?

― Owen, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

sylvian isn't on that album

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Yes he HAS, Owen. :)

― bahtology, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

and Meg, how could you forget that Christian Lechevretel played trumpet on the Sylvian tracks "Royaute'" and "Victim of Stars" that are available on 'Sahara Blue' by Hector Zazou ??? :)

― bahtology, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

"sylvian isn't on that album".
yes he is.

― Pluranus, Sunday, 24 July 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

no he isn't unless he's uncredited. the confusion from the link earlier was that it said "sakamoto/sylvian/blahblahblah guitarist david torn"

― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 24 July 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Sylvian was not a member of B.L.U.E (Bruford Levin Upper Extremities) David TORN was the guitarist. Torn had taken part in recording Sylvian's Secrets of the Beehive and the subsequent 1988 tour In Praise Of Shamans.
He had also put out a solo album called Cloud About Mercury that Bruford and Levin helped out on.
B.L.U.E was Bill Bruford, Tony Levin, Chris Botti and David Torn.

Botti hasn't worked with Sylvian. See my post above as to which trumpeters he has utilised. (as well as the additional post from bahtology...yes I had forgotten about that strange little venture that Sylvian took part in, oops:)

― meg, Sunday, 24 July 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Both were rather beautiful young men.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 24 July 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Has Botti worked with Sylvian?

― Frestob, Sunday, 24 July 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

heh heh heh

― skiabo, Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...

Botti's trumping on Kate Bush's new album. I think I've heard.

― Wad Subfusc, Thursday, 3 November 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

trumpet guy looks sort of like a sylvian/sting mix

Worst. Slash. Ever.

― Edward Bax (EdBax), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

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