caetano veloso - araca azul ETC.

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theres one main thread on caetano, and this 1973 album gets only one mention, from dleone. this is an awesome weirdo record. a friend recommended it to me last year, right after creature comforts by black dice came out, as being a classic antecedent to BD's then-current sound. so now im looking for more stuff like this. i want burbling, teeming, possibly electronic, possibly involving vocals, noisy-but-full stuff. here are some more examples i can think of.

animal collective
todd rundgren - a few tracks from a wizard, a true star, especially "dogfight giggle"
fenno'berg - the return of fenno'berg
cromagnon - orgasm (so i hear - i havent heard this one yet)

maybe like an experimental combo of the beach boys and some squelchy synths and a drum machine (but not too abrasive...). maybe i just cant wait for that new animal collective album.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

s'good. the veloso, i mean. but my favorite song is "eu quero essa mulher...", probably the most ass-kicking acid rock song from brazil ever.

and maybe robert wyatt end of an ear?

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

hmmm - i heard that RW album a couple years ago, and didnt love it. but at that point, i really just wanted to hear more stuff just like rock bottom. maybe its worth a revisit... thanks, sabor!

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

i still don't love it, and it's been a while since i've heard it. but the voice experimentation aspect...

the cro-magnon album is great, btw. though i know there were two different reissues with the second side at regular or double speed. weird.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

oh man - black dice's miles of smiles is PERFECT for this.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Claudio Rocchi - Viaggio. very much of a piece with Araça Azul.

― echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 22 July 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Fennesz - Endless Summer -- you might already know this one.

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 22 July 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

ooh... ive never even HEARD of claudio rocchi. thanks ech! i wonder if marco d likes him.

endless summer is a good one - i like live in japan as much, maybe a little more sometimes. the one-track nature of LIJ is annoying in many ways, but sort of suits this listening mood.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

for some reason i don't really think of "azul" as electronic.

the cromagnon record rules.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

i guess its the tape manipulation/orchestration stuff that puts it in a category with some electronic experimental stuff for me... i think i will check out that cromag record. any other suggestions, stencil?

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

avoid the ZYX Cromagnon reissue. the cover is severely compromised and that's the one with the wrong tape speed on side two. is Get Back's vinyl version still around?

― Beta (abeta), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

and echoinggrove keeps dropping dope titles but never follows through (cough)

― Beta (abeta), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/03/9f/30/51_1.JPG

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'm going to have to give this one a try again...

― crown victoria (dymaxia), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

these come to mind:

Alan Sondheim, "Ritual-All-7-70"
Anal Magic & Rev. Dwight Frizzell, "Beyond the Black Crack"

i'll try to think of some others that might fit the bill.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

both album covers i can find are awesome. (here's the other one...)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000GABY.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

yeh, yeh, i sux0r. and it's not like yr cds haven't been done and taking up precious horizontal shelfspace for months now. milton, laws bless, came through and set a shining example. which i'd be remiss not to follow. expect some love soon, both y'all.

back to AAesque: Spoils of War? Hans Edler - Elektron Kukéso? Nick Nicely? Le Stelle di Mario Schifano? Metabolismus? they all seem to fall just short.

― echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

everything mentioned seems to fall short.
but what aspect are you looking to find elsewhere? the sound poetry? the studio chances? the songs? the acid rock? the juxtaposition of old and rural lyric forms brunting up against urban noise? the weird orchestrations? the post-tropicalisms? musique-concrete? the popular artist that returns from exile and cuts a fuck-you record?
maybe gal costa's record from '69? tim buckley's starsailor? trout mask replica? smile (boots only, natch)? mostly because whatever you (or the artists that emulate aspects of such albums) try to take or separate or parse or admire separate from the whole is but part.
it turns to butter in your hands.

― Beta (abeta), Friday, 22 July 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

everything mentioned seems to fall short.

that's a bit presumptuous.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 22 July 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

boredoms circa POp Tatari & earl;y super roots

― Boring Satanic Space Jazz (sexyDancer), Friday, 22 July 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

meaning just in that it doesn't quite sound like araca azul. it also echoes echoinggrove's line above.

― Beta (abeta), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

White Noise - "An Electric Storm". experimental album from 69 with wacky moog burbles, musique conrete and twee hippy songs on top.

also, United States of America, Silver Apples, 50 Ft Horse

― The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

hose?

― Beta (abeta), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

but have you seriously heard everything mentioned on this thread?

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

what do you think?

― Beta (abeta), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

hose

― The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Saturday, 23 July 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...

Araça Azullulation.

― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 4 February 2006 03:29 (twenty years ago)

TWINK Think Pink?
a deeper dip into hippie waters (and maybe closer to ANIMAL COLLECTIVE for that) but also more cold English solitude than the Ipanema abstraction of Azul but...

― bernardo bahiana rondeau (omutante), Saturday, 4 February 2006 03:49 (twenty years ago)

hey if you haven't heard it, then you owe it to yourself to hear the milton nascimento "milagre dos peixes (ao vivo)". it's more organic than "araca azul", less electronic, but still right up there with animal collective, what with the wordless vocals, moaning, strange background percussion and suitelong songs...you could also check out the new 2xcd, Far Out, which has two albums--O Ultimo Trem and Maria Maria. Maria Maria is a whacked out ballet score, has a lot of milagre dos peixes recordings on it, songs with just a woman crying over the top, etc.
Also walter franco's revolver or the one after that, respire fundo, might be just what you're looking for

― naturemorte, Saturday, 4 February 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)

the walter franco might actually be "ou nao". i remember it being pretty out there, and the allmusic bio says it's "possibly the one (record) which sold the least copies in the history of Brazilian phonography." so that sounds like araca azul already.
my favorite story about araca azul is that many records stores filed it in their comedy sections at first.

― naturemorte, Saturday, 4 February 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)

I second that...and add the studio verison of Milagres dos Peixes. wild mini suites of voices and percussion...and for a mellower, folkier version of Araca Azul there's also Caetano's gorgeous Joia from some years later

― bernardo bahiana rondeau (omutante), Saturday, 4 February 2006 21:40 (twenty years ago)

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