Black Dice - Broken Ear Record

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Got this yesterday! It's pretty great. Would anybody be interested in me YSI a couple of songs or something?

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Plz!

― oni0n_kid, Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm upping the first track now but it's being extreeemly slow.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

here's the first track:

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=03JM5OGGTPVVC2P860WWDMANS3

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Holy Shit, I didn't even know about this. Thanks so much...

― Nostalgic for the Pre-Conservative Hendrie (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

hari - KEEP IT COMING!

― peter smith (plsmith), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, they weren't kidding when they talked about having the beats 'front and center'. This is pretty goddamn great.

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm uploading track two now, these files are big goddammit!

My favourite so far is 'Street Dude'. Oh man. You wait til you guys hear that.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

where did you get this?

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

someone gave my a YSI of a zip file yesterday

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I've been looking on slsk the past couple days since I found out when it was going to be released- but no luck. Hari, did your zip file happen to include any of the proposed remixes? Supposedly Vladislav Delay and the DFA are doing them for the track "Smiling Off".

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

AH unfortunately not. I'd love to hear DFA take on 'Smiling Off' though.

YSI for that track is nearly done

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

oh shit, was that some NOISE HOUSE in there??

i like what i hear. thanks hari!

― sleep (sleep), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1YS6KIW0MM7371BMBOUA183LCD

here is track 2!

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, Hari- this is amazing. I really thought Hisham's leaving was going to rob them of a lot of the creative momentum they had going, but that is definitely not the case (at least with these two tracks).

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Track 3 is upping at the moment. This next one is really gorgeous, in it's way. Everyone will be pleased to know that 'Twins' (track 7) features handclaps and is obviously awesome.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Here's track 3 "heavy manners"

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=18IBUTRVTY5HS3DIC0LRPWRUMI

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

thanks so much! what's the official release date?

xpost: handclaps! yay! :-)

― willem (willem), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

I think it's september, i have no idea though.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I heard it was Sept. 6th.

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Ok here is track 4

this track makes me feel really weird if i concentrate to hard on it.

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3E7GJC9S3UA9L3OOR0SAQHJELA

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

the promo's on eBay. Can't believe the cover!
http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/8a/e2/ff_1_b.JPG
back:
http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/8a/e3/07_1_b.JPG

― willem (willem), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/8a/e3/07_1_b.JPG

― willem (willem), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

my no. 1 record of 2005, without even having heard it.

is that justifiable?

thanks so much Hari!

― rizzx (rizzx), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Track 5!

this was my favourite until about an hour ago but it's been usurped

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2632JQUCCFPC32ZE62ND9C1DVJ

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Track 6

this is the one with handclaps!

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2XBPEQHRM2RDO18LEOAF6PXXGH

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

downloading these for later and feeling guilty also cos i can't help thinking that uploading an entire unreleased album on here is a really fucking bad idea.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Street Dude is fantastic, I'm digging the guitar and the quick static washes in this. x-post

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

hm, jed why do you think this is a bad idea? I haven't uplaoded anything here before. If it is a bad idea perhaps a mod could remove the links for now and i could send them to emails or something?

anyway last track: http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=30WXZFA49FZBW391RQTONY36QM

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

perhaps if the title of the thread was changed to "important work documents nothing to see here". or something.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Well the ysi links will expire anyway, so I don't think it'll be a big deal.

xpost haha

― sleep (sleep), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

i'm being hypocritical since i am grabbing them harri (and thanks) but em... can you really not see how uploading an entire unreleased record (thats not due to come out for 2 months) to a public messageboard could be a bad thing?

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Yeah i can definitely see the problem. But I thought that this kind of thing happened a lot. With the multitude of YSI links handed out here. But if it's not cool then i won't do it again.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Also i'm still pretty ignorant of how public this site is. Is it possible for someone to search for Black Dice and find this thread?

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Dude the internet was made for this kind of thing. Tnk U!

― oni0n_kid, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

xpost - you put all those gaps in track 6 so we wouldn't have the full thing, didn't you?

thx for this btw. they sound even more stoned than last record esp. 'heavy manners'

― ?ÎÓDDDJHKHVBNM (eman), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Track 4 has expired. Damn

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Fuck they went quickly. Could someone re-up 2, 3 & 6 plz?

― oni0n_kid, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

it's not available in Lanarkshire!

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

jed> Nothings available in lanarkshire! Most record shops have closed down! (except in East Kilbride)

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

7 is gone already?

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

hari could you re-up the last track?

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

ahh i'm off out now but if it's not around when i get home tonight i will

probably best if i send it to an email if thats possible?

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

slsk plz

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

hari, i'll shoot you an email.

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

As will I. Good looks man, this is pretty great.

― - (smile), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

grr now i missed that last track! I'll email u as well

― rizzx (rizzx), Saturday, 23 July 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

you people are animals.

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 23 July 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Good work, people. We'll be in touch.

― Black Dice's lawyer (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 23 July 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

slsk who's got it
these links are done :((((

― jared%%, Saturday, 23 July 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

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yeah, what about a list of fav. black dice releases

1. cone toaster
2. beaches & canyons
3. miles of smiles
4. black dice/wolf eyes split
5. cold hands
6. creature comforts

― rizzx (rizzx), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

The first thing I heard by them was actually Creature Comforts which I bought on a whim. I do quite like it but I think if I'd heard Beaches and Canyons first, I'd probably hate it.
I like the way so many reviewers describe their sound, particularly on Creature Comforts as being like listening to a bunch of Dinobots on a prehistoric beach.

I've only listened to this album once, and while I think it's their best one yet, I must say it's seems a little less confrontational than the last two albums - almost like it's a little too streamlined? Also, although it is a slight change in sound, it's not a complete overhaul. I think the Black Dice have hit the top of their current peak, and while I love this sound, they'll need a big shift in style for the next record.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

i bought the last boredoms record as a christmas present for someone, they loved it

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Wait, don't tell me, they live in a teepee in Wales and don't have electricity but listen to the CD by means of crystals, rays and ley lines?

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Black Dice should definitely rename themselves the Dinobots.

― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

no, they live in south manchester, in a house, with a cd player in it, which has a copy of seadrum in it, sometimes. has done since last christmas, if i remember correctly

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

I had another listen to Broken Ear Record today at lunch. It struck me that despite being sonically similar, this is a very different record in execution to the previous records. In essence, I listen to it in a different way. The title says it all really, whereas Beaches and Canyons conjured up images of incredible landscapes and Creature Comforts made me think of bleak woodland, the images on this record are of broken machinery - a band messing with their instruments; not unlike the sound Autechre have been going for of late.

The previous releases indulged in their subtleties - you'd be forgiven for thinking these were not a rock band playing and more field sampling and ambient synthesis, thus working on several different levels i.e. it is noise with a true organic feeling that manages to bring out a lot of feeling and character to the bizarre textures being created by what is essentially a rock band. Creature Comforts focused on a great spatial awareness, like being stranded on an isolated coastline. B&C did this too but juxtaposed the calmer parts with bigger more violent spazzouts, only revealing Black Dice as the ex-hardcore band they were in the last fifth of the album.

BER is different here. Despite it being more accessible, easier to listen to and believe-it-or-not "catchier" than these previous two, I don't get much more imagery than a jazz rock band being caught up in a threshing machine, or perhaps an infinite amount of monkeys who having neglected their entire works of Shakespeare decided to master the art of delay pedals. It literally is "Broken Ear" music.

Gone is the feeling of that ominous bleak space left by the other albums - there's a heck of a lot, sometimes even too much going on in this album and maybe this is why it's actually easier to listen to. For one, it's more colourful - the huge bass drones that perpetuate the second track on the album are reminiscent of Jungle or Dub; the welcome return of a more obvious vocal presence add a human touch to the unworldly sounds of previous ventures. It is also a bit more obvious that this is music being played by several different band members, whereas before the ambiguity of "who was doing what" made the overall listening experience a bit more fun imho.

Yet this is all at the expense of the dynamic range. One of my favourite parts of Beaches and Canyons is the end of track 4 in which the sounds of rolling waves (either sampled or synthetically produced) lap in and out for nearly five minutes, lulling you into a false sense of secure psychedelic bliss before the hardcore squall of the fifth and ultimate track.

So while the album is easier to listen to, a lot of the many intricacies are lost as there is little juxtaposition between the different levels on the album. It IS interesting, but it works better as background music, seeing as extended intensive listening can get a bit grinding.

That said, if I were to recommend a starting point for newcomers to Black Dice, this would be the first to check out, then B&C and lastly Creature Comforts.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

sorry if that didn't make a lot of sense, I was rambling and at work.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0316358509.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Boring Satanic Space Jazz (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

"On "House of Sun," Boredoms are handing you the keys to the holiest shrine of dronedom, and you thoughtlessly toss them into the sewer."

wrong. house of sun is shitty drone.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

How about shut up everyone about House of Sun huh?

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

And yeh, it is shit. It's like Ravi Shankar tuning up for 30 minutes.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

BD are coming to Baton Rouge in oct.
FUCKIN'A

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Fetchboy, do you know where they're playing? I'm leaving LA soon, but I'm curious to know which venue booked them.

― Ethan Forrest (ethanf), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

it's still TBA

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

"On "House of Sun," Boredoms are handing you the keys to the holiest shrine of dronedom, and you thoughtlessly toss them into the sewer."
wrong. house of sun is shitty drone.

-- Fetchboy (wangchungvsah...), August 2nd, 2005.

There are actually people arguing over a drone. This is why I love ILM.

"Seadrum" is fantastic tho and i feel sorry for you if you don't think so. Maybe you should put it on half an hour before you go to sleep and just lay down and close your eyes and listen to it.

― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

its all about 'Seadrum'

'Seadrum' owns everythang

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

And yeh, it is shit. It's like Ravi Shankar tuning up for 30 minutes.

That's a tamboura on "House of Sun," not a sitar (and the track's 20 minutes long). If you're gonna hate, at least be accurate. I pity anyone whose mind is so unpsychedelically inclined he/she can't feel the majesty of this track.

― original plagiarist (Da ve Segal), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/cartoon/images/miscellaneous/book-tintin.JPG

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

HI! WE'VE ALREADY HAD A THREAD ABOUT HOUSE OF SUN!!!!!

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

I like "CC" a lot more than "BaC", so does my fellow BD fan

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

do you keep him in your pocket?

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Her, no

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna ask if anyone preferred CC to B&C but you have already answered. Care to say why Andrew?

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

I dig CC better, it's more their album than their influences.
dig:
http://sifyimg.speedera.net/sify.com/shopping/images/landmark/tintin/big/0749704608.jpg

― Boring Satanic Space Jazz (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

CC>>>>>>>B&C

― Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

IS ANYONE STILL HERE?

CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME GET A COPY OF THE NEW BD

PLEASE

acorncoral at hotmail dot com

― ACORN CORAL, Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

intermessagboard automatic reply:

We're sorry but we will be away from the boards until Oct. 14. Please direct all requests to slsk during that time. Thanking you.

The Management

― I Love Music (eman), Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

this album is pretty good! so far, B&C>=CC>BER, but yneverknow

― petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Which will be Black Dice's Castafiore Emerald?

― Old School (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

I think I like BER better than CC. There are moments on "Motorcycle" where I think they might have invented a new kind of music. It's not "pleasant" exactly, but it's as hypnotic as I've heard them, even on B&C. It's like being pulled behind a rickety tractor but instead of feeling bruised and scraped, it's kind of fun.

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

FUCK YES SMILING OFF IS THE SHIT

― FUCK YES, Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm.. I listened to this loads but just haven't been in the mood for it in a few weeks. I still reckon B&C is their best one, but this is the most accomplished and solid album.

― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 4 September 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

i bought the wrong disc yesterday, but it was amazing anyways.

― anthony, Sunday, 4 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

I just bought this properly. Any more thoughts?

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

What's the several-weeks-after-release verdict? Worth buying, or should I save my money for other noize?

― Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

It's a perfectly good noize album as far as things go, although I personally prefer Beaches and Canyons.

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I really like the Miles of Smiles EP

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I need to check that one out properly. Am I the only person who thought Cone Toaster was wack?

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

way better than anything else they've ever done.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

They are one of those groups that actually suck but make people feel cool about themselves for "getting" their music.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

right.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Oh and I suppose you think the Yeah Yeah Yeahs are good?

xpost

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't like the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and their name sucks.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I guess it sounds like I hate Black Dice from that post, but I don't. I just think they are given more credit than they deserve. My favorite song off of Broken Ear Record is "Smiling Off". I liked Beaches and Canyons, and the song "Skeleton" from Creature Comforts. Apologies for being a troll.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

i do kind of get what you mean r.o., they're not the most sociable listening and i can imagine there's a certain degree of "i get it but you don't" to their fanbase. I appreciate their stuff on it's own terms and I don't try and shove it down the throats of my friends. I am a big fan though I don't actually understand WHY i like them - i just do.

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

BD was excellent last night. i like the new record, but was fairly unprepared for their sound last night. heavy, tribal stuff - slow, soupy beats from triggered drumsticks, buncha vocal processing, and guitar looping. it took me a song or two to get acclimated, but once they and i settled in, they sounded AWESOME. super woozy, hypnotic, much murkier than last i saw them. they sort of reminded me of gang gang dance more than they have before.

dom, i dont know if youll get a chance to see this tour, or if you already have, but if you love "motorcycle," you will LOVE their live show.

― petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

yes, I saw them in Chicago and had fun. I actually thought they were a lot more power-noisy than the record. 13 & God opened, and more than half the room cleared when BD came on.

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

cold hands-era = "i don't live today"
beaches & canyons/cone toaster = "third stone from the sun"
post-miles of smiles = "are you experienced?" (only the backwards parts) (of the jimi, not BD)

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

Don't follow you.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 November 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

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