Nobody listens to Techno. My juno wantlist

http://funkshun.us/audio/funkshun_events/rizumu/2005.07.23-murat_livepa-live_@_rizumu-philadelphia.mp3

Techno recommendations plz!

Flux Trax 1
Scion - Arrange and Process Basic Channel Tracks (and/or) Basic Channel CD
Tresor - True Spirit (3cd Box)
True People - The Detroit Techno album
Juan Atkins - Metroplex (2cd retrospective on Tresor, in print)
Monolake - Momentum
Jeff Mills - Live @ The Liquid Room Tokyo, The Other Day, Waveform Transmission 1 & 3

I'm a bit lost when it comes to modern stuff in this vein and mixtapes, cds, 12" really.

btw, aren't you the poster who doesn't like LFO, Black Dog & Daft Punk? If so I guess I won't recommend them! Warp, Kompakt etc is 'techno' anyway :-P

There are also at least 5 great long threads of recommendations floating about ILM.

LOOOVE this record. any other steve rachmad stuff worth picking up?

btw, aren't you the poster who doesn't like LFO, Black Dog & Daft Punk? If so I guess I won't recommend them! Warp, Kompakt etc is 'techno' anyway :-P

Haha, you know me too well. I guess very early LFO is counted as techno and I kinda like that stuff but their later stuff is awful. I would never describe Daft Punk as Techno - they are house and a darn good house act at that (though I do think Homework is highly overrated). Black Dog are IDM, which I guess is a strain of Techno in the loosest sense. I'm not mad on Black Dog but I

btw, aren't you the poster who doesn't like LFO, Black Dog & Daft Punk? If so I guess I won't recommend them! Warp, Kompakt etc is 'techno' anyway :-P

Haha, you know me too well. I guess very early LFO is counted as techno and I kinda like that stuff but their later stuff is awful. I would never describe Daft Punk as Techno - they are house and a darn good house act at that (though I do think Homework is highly overrated). Black Dog are IDM, which I guess is a strain of Techno in the loosest sense. I'm not mad on Black Dog but I heart Plaid a lot.

I've found on ILM that when people talk about "Techno", they tend to concentrate on stuff that I wouldn't really count as Techno in my mind (i.e. Detroit, House, Microhouse, IDM etc) as opposed to hard four-four repetitive beats attributed to acts like Chris Liebling, DAVE the Drummer, Jeff Mills, certain Hardhouse acts (I can't really tell the difference between Hardhouse and Techno) et al. Not that I'm against microhouse and IDM by all means.

Re-reading my post, I realise I sound genre-ist but when I go out and listen to Techno I wouldn't really expect to hear very much on Kompact, unless it was in a chill out area for instance.

http://www.circonium.de/music/pic/speicher3.gif

Also, see Kompakt Auftrieb

Top 100 Most Bangin Techno Tracks
some of which are neither bangin nor techno, but what can you do

I think that's also the main problem with regular techno too...it's quality depends so much on the DJ. A set of hard shit played by even an average DJ can be realllllly boring and unlistenable, while a set of micro/whatever/minimal is still good to listen to if the tracks are good, regardless of what the DJ is doing. So we have the situation where more than half the time you go out to see regular 'techno' the stupid dj is playing boring chris leibing track mixed into boring chris leibing track, doing nothing to chop up the flow, nothing suprrising, etc. But when you get a real pro doing it (DJ bone! Ben Simms (lately...he was boring once) Dave Clarke, rolando, etc etc) It's just the best.

Ching Ching Ching noise = Ride Cymbal. I think every advent track goes like: Drum Loop -> Ride Cymbal Comes in for 32 bars -> Ride Cymbal goes away for 8 Bars -> Ride Cymbal Comes back for 32 bars -> Repeat!

Here is a SMOKING Diego (Kanzleramt my fave label at the moment) live PA: http://www.kanzleramt.com/downloads/diego_live1_5.mp3

OTM!

There's a great little techno night down in Brighton called Hideout which is often focused on the more bangin' side of the Detroit stuff and Tresor type stuff - you should have seen the look on the techno purists' faces when someone played 'Seven Nation Army' followed by 'Strict Machine' a couple of years ago to start their set off with.

Sounds like my kind of DJ!

One of my big problems with techno is that in a certain way, it's public 'face' is 20-24 year old males who are so keen to proove to themselves and each other how 'hard' they are and how 'pure' they are (probably out of guilt from having been scooter/slayer/gabber fans until they 'converted'). I guess it's like anything, where the recent converts and 'true believers' are the ones who 'get it' the least. Oh well, they're having their own fun, who am I to judge. They really should get over it and let in those pop influences though.

Has anyone ever heard Chris Liberator's album "Set Fire"? It has to be the worst album ever made. The beats are just awful which is pretty much a given anyway, but he makes it worse by doing all these stupid Mike Skinner-esque squat-logic monologues over the top: "This is a freestate. There is no law here, except the law of the drug and the music", and one tune called "Hackney Soapbox" where in the intro he's going "sitting here thinking about life but... alot of the time just goes past... don't have the answers... no one has the answers" then it goes into this shitty downtempo big beat tune that sounds like he made it out the trip-hop samples from Music on the PS1 "sit here waiting for the end of the millenium... wondering about life... I read a book the other day... it said... all the things I think about... that you realise there's other people out there thinking the same shit, doing the same shit, living the same shit... well it's quite nice too know...". Bad but funny as fuck.

But Pet Duo, Holgi Star, Pounding Grooves and all that hyper rhythmic hypnotic drum stuff is the shit! Dave the Drummer knows how to make a good tune also.

Tracklisting looks something like this:

Link – Amenity
Andre Kraml ft Schad Privat – Safari (James Holden rmx)
Alex Under – Multiplicanciones B1
Marc Houle – Business
Hardtrax – Shufflephunk (beats)
Jay vs Robag – Change Something
Sleeparchive – Track 4 (recycled)
Sleeparchive – Research
Carl Craig – Sandstorms
Daniel Bell –Squirrel Bait
Visitor – Stop The Music
Steve Bug – Loverboy (Guido Schneider rmx)
Phylyps – Phylyps Trak 2
Matthew Dear – Plinko
Paul Kalkbrenner – Press On
Static Drum - Zig Zag
Andreas Kauffelt – Second Sight
Wake On LAN –Local Area Control
Arthur Baker – The Break (Cevin Fishers Nyc Peak rmx)
Lil’Louis – French Kiss (edit)
Megablast – Jubita (Stereotype rmx)
Jeff Mills – Kat Race
James Bryant – Ha-Ha
GFlame & Mr G – Dumped
Joris Voorn – Many Reasons
Joris Voorn – Don’t Believe The Snake Hips
Los Hermanos – Untitled
Danilo Vigorito – Untitled (B1)
Hidden Rivals – CC Feedback
Kenny Larkin – Ancient Beats
G Flame & Henk – Stand Up
Pascal Feos – Flashed Back (Joris Voorn classic ’87 rework) (*)
Robert Hood – Ride
Robert Hood – Rhythm
Rino Cerrone – Fracture
Aardvareke – Just Washed That Pig
Ben Sims – Retrovert (Claude Young rmx)
Chez Damier – Rainfall
Convextion – Ondes
Ben Sims – Encounter (Max Duley rmx)

http://opendir.blogspot.com/

(scroll down about 1/2 way). I really like it, builds really quite beautifully.

Been listening to the Technasia (charles siegling) fuse mix a lot lately and have been loving that. Perfect blend of chicago house, ghetto-tech, and european bangin techno. The 'alien radio' into 'number of hte beast' mix is sublime.

Also on a harder techno tip: Miss Djax just released her debut album Raw. No new ground but relentless and just really good stuff somewhere between Waveform-era Mills and Rush.

ahaha

download it here:
http://www.splitmusic.net/radio.asp?rid=26

archived shows:
http://www.splitmusic.net/radiolist.asp

These guys really need to be listened to. They're two incredibly knowledgable and versatiaile dj's and anybody who thinks they're just straight hard loop techno is really missing out. I think anybody into recent electro-house stuff should really check them out, they'll be surprised I think.

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/195218-01.htm

Was the B-side track on any recent mix cds? It sounds so familiar.

Anyway, in that minimal-berlin-dub kinda vein (not "plain 'ol dancefloor funky banging detroit whatever" but not wanting to create a new thread) this is pretty great! http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VW8GJY9P (off one of the YSI threads) - a Sleeparchive live set.

three syndikaat releases for the price of one!!

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/292451-01.htm

The Split radio show is still going, and very good it is too - now done by Ben Simms and ex-Covert records guy Alex Downey who is the unsung hero of the Brighton club scene. Wish I was going to their Split party next week but alas I've overdone it recently and need some "home time".

I discovered Juno Downloads today (thanks btw, ILM). I'm amazed by the amount of interesting, cool stuff I'm finding there that I've never heard about anywhere else. This song, Kingston Town, by a Radikal Guru, is fantastic.

I guess the "WishList" function is equivalent to a "Saved For Later" list?

> I guess the "WishList" function is equivalent to a "Saved For Later" list?

Yes, but you can't tag specific tracks/songs. Only the whole release (which can be annoying for compilations).
There are some more options in the setup.

I actually figured that out tonight. It is a pain, but -- as I say -- it's totally outweighed by the scope of the catalogue.

I can't stop listening to this Radikal Guru fellow. Here's what some dub blog has to say about him:

Matt Miller aka Radikal Guru is a Producer, dj and instrumentalist born in Poland. Based in Cork IE Guru has been setting dancefloors with some of the heaviest dubstep beats coming out of the country.

Heavily influenced by dub originators such as King Tubby or Scientist he combines sounds of roots reggae with dubstep. He recently released a remix of legendary “Chase the Devil” as well as his original “Strong dub” on Dubbed out records (UK).

Both of his works recieved a great response from dubstep listeners in Europe. “He's cracked out the old 'Chase The Devil' sample from Max Romeo & The Upsetters, perhaps better known as the centrepiece to the Prodigy's 'Out of Space', and spooned it into a community centre wrecking dubstep anthem like no other”.