T/S - BB King v. Albert King

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Both large men from the Indianola, MS area.

Both left indelible marks on American music.

Both played Gibsons.

But if forced to take one, who would you take?

And please discount "When Love Comes to Town." It seems EVERY time BB gets discussed, this comes up.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Albert, because as great as BB is there's nothing in his catalog like the unholy Stax/blues marriage of Born Under a Bad Sign.

Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I saw Albert on the Drill Field at Miss. State (summer '81 I think), B.B. at Fulton Chapel at Ole Miss (fall '83). Both ruled. B.B. is the sentimental favorite (it was my first date with my wife), but Albert brought the fire, boy.

Tossup.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

I've seen BB 4 times, Albert none. My favorite was in Indianola while I was there with Teach for America...BB puts on a homecoming concert there ever year for free. Slightly hokum, but its fun to be able to see him outside and stand 10 feet from a legend and dance with my 4th and 5th grade students.

I wish I had seen Albert.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

oh, they're both somewhat overrated, for different reasons. BB was a pretty decent singer, but he wasn't great. Albert played well but he was a pretty lousy singer. As far as blues Kings go, I'll take Freddie or Saunders (Saunders being one of the first popular LA blues guys, more in the mold of T-Bone Walker, who is better than either BB or Albert; check out Saunders King's '42 hit "SK Blues" sometime.)

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 5 August 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

Jesus Christ, xpost! Overrated?

I could never chose between the two. It's just two hard. Sometimes I'm in an Albert mood, sometimes I'm in a BB mood. Between the two, I probably own about 60 records.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 5 August 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha. Too hard. I need to start proofreading.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 5 August 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

Great as Albert is, B.B. wins for Live at the Regal.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 5 August 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

but of course, Freddy was the best of all.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 5 August 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

love 'em both (freddie too) but forced to choose...

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/110/116448.jpg


m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 5 August 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

yeah, they're both overrated. I think all those blues guitar heroes are kinda overrated, that's just me. Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, Earl King, name 'im. 'Cause they all do just ONE thing, a good thing, but it's so fucking limited. I will always regard with some suspicion people who lionize those blues players--I mean Snooks Eaglin, as I am sure I have often said round these parts, smokes 'em all. A COMPLETE musician, and sorry, I can't say that about BB or Albert King--cool and great as they are. Plus I've seen BB several times, and it was always a shuck, fuck him.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps you're looking for too much in your blues musicians? Just a thought. Yes, Snooks Eaglin is a major talent, a great musician, but he's much more than a blues musician. Lots of jazz and new orleans flavour in his playing.

I wholeheartedly subscribe to the theory that good blues lead playing is incredibly difficult. Sure, everyone can noodle in a minor pentatonic, lapse into some major licks and bend strings like said blues guitar heroes, but they invariably don't have the dirt, fire and sass of a true blues lead guitar player.

It's sort of a zen proposition. Learn all the licks in this incredibly limiting box pattern, develop an original tone (which probably can't be done anymore) and impart yourself in those notes, impart your true feeling and soul. Who does that anymore, without sounding canned or overproduced or soulless?

I'd hazard to say the last of the great blues guitar records were in the 70s: Freddie and Albert were on fire, BB was obviously stuck on replay. You had Otis Rush, Son Seals and Fenton Robinson on fire in the mid-70s. What's happened since then that can possibly compare?

So I think I know what you're saying, I just think if those guys did that one thing, that good thing that's so fucking limited, really well, then kudos. Because no one has done it really well since without copping from the source.

OK, maybe Ronnie Earl on occasion. I have a soft spot for his playing.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Not choosing, but I was just looking for a thread to say I'm listening to Born Under a Bad Sign and it's pretty great.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 20 November 2008 03:57 (seventeen years ago)

I've seen BB several times, and it was always a shuck, fuck him.

hahahah is this guy serious

BIG HOOS enjoys a cold mindbeer (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 20 November 2008 04:02 (seventeen years ago)

I love Albert but this is BB easy. BB is still surprising me.

BIG HOOS enjoys a cold mindbeer (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 20 November 2008 04:03 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

i never really understood why BB King is so deified over many other better blues players, he's kinda boring to me.

smang a goon (get it on) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

i love them both equally.

Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

For me it's as much about his singing as his playing. On his best stuff (and sure, he's made boring records) his voice is impassioned and breaks in all the right places, while the guitar is supremely UNDERplayed, never wasting a note, pleading and stinging just where it needs to. Tough to explain, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XclubtGRkQ

Glorified Lolcat (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

and the underplaying is more striking because his sound is so identifiable: i guess it makes me surprised that someone could own such a unique sound with so little playing.

j., Thursday, 27 January 2011 10:23 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

BB King, because any song that begins "I been downhearted baby, ever since the day we met" is an instant classic.

she rub A LINK in your poke (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 May 2011 12:46 (fourteen years ago)

I seriously though want to build a time machine and murder the Primitive Radio Gods prior to them recording that shitty Change in the Phone Booth song

she rub A LINK in your poke (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 May 2011 12:47 (fourteen years ago)

The more I listen to the blues the more I realize I don't like bb king very much.

Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 May 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

Wow...I can't go there.

BB King was more downtown sounding than most of his peers as his back line always had a horn section. The guy has also been there since the beginning of electric blues. The guy is one of the seminal blues men. Stax signing Albert King and putting the MGs and the Memphis Horns behind him is pretty much trying to emulate the popular sound/success of BB's band.

Can't go wrong with any of the three Kings, they were all fantastic. BB is the better singer. Freddie was a more acrobatic guitarist than either of them. Albert's lead playing and some of his tunes directly influenced some of the blues rock of the late 60s.

earlnash, Saturday, 21 May 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

Or you can just choose Albert King as he is the only one that I know Danzig ever covered.

earlnash, Saturday, 21 May 2011 20:51 (fourteen years ago)


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