Byard Lancaster "Exodus"

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hello i am considering buying this album but have never heard it. Has anywone heard it? Whats it like? I am familiar with his work on several ESP albums, and was curious about this one. It is on the Philly Jazz label from the 70s (77?). I was specifically curious as to how "out" it is. It looks pretty good from the group configuration (trio) and instrumentation listed.

― Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

i've got it somewhere, unless i just sold it. i'll check it out.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

thanx

― Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

fuck i think i sold it. if i remember, it's a good rec tho. where you buying it from?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

the princeton record exchange, its 25 bucks.

― Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

hrm i liked it, but i dunno if i'd buy it for that much, but maybe don will give you a discount? cool dude, saw him last nite for the first time in ages.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'd try googling before I paid that much, although it's good (don't remember much about it though--ditto the one with Khan Jamahl)(one I do remember is It's Not Up To Us, with Sonny Sharrock, among others. If you like his ESPs you'd like that, I think, and it was re-released on CD not too long ago; probably on Amazon and/or Cadence [cadencebuilding.org or .com, I think--haven't let myself go there in a while; they got too much good stuff, usually--but if you can ration yourself--)

― don, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, forgot: I'm not the don referred to above!)(thought I was but I'm not)

― don, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

no i was writing of teh R3TTMAN, dude.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)

yikes, sounds scary! def not me!

― don, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

i like that Vortex album, too, the one with Sharrock on it. wait, i think i wrote about it at pitchfork.

― Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

Which one, Andy? Black Woman? An all-time scary classic!

― don, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

nope, don, this one:
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/l/lancaster_byard/its-not-up-to-us.shtml

but yo to some Black Woman:
http://www.moistworks.com/2005/07/tiger-rag-mills-brothers-brunswick.html

― b8a, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

i used to hear him playing every day on the street in philly. i was actually thinking of asking him and rufus harley to play at my wedding, along with some other philly luminaries, including my pal elliot - the only person i know who has toured with harold melvin & the bluenotes AND cecil taylor - but we ended up getting married at a 76ers game instead.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

(scott, you mean byard?) Andy xpost links: oh YEAH that's what I'm talkin about! Daniel, check these descriptions!(hasn't Water or somebody reissued BW, in addition to the Japanese import and the CD I have, which also has that Wayne Henderson on the same disc[!]?) Bravo, Andy. Re the Yoko/Plastic Ono, Chuck was remineded of Live Peace In Toronto, with Lennon's feedback, etc. "Strumming": yeah, this was before Sonny got into slide (said his inspiration was Blind Willie, esp. "Dark Was The Night, Cold Was The Ground" of course, his first version of "Blind Willie" is on BW, but it's strummed too--sounds to me like Chinese and Nepalese and Tibetan mountain music,a bit [come to think of it, didn't Muddy Waters describe modern jazz as sounding like Chinese music?]) Another thing that gets me about BW is the way she goes from the divebomber wails (recorded about the same time as Robert Plant's "Looooovvve" dive in "Whole Lotta Love"), to the sheerly beeyootiful diva-flight of "Bialero" (Sonny strumming like mad mandolinist)

― don, Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

scott, ever read that article in VICE about Rufus Harley?
http://www.viceland.com/issues/v10n2/htdocs/what_the.php

don, yeah, Water just did a domestic version of BW. worth every exchanged yen rate i plunked on it years before. dubbed it on one of those CD-length cassettes (the 74 min ones) with Tim Buckley's Starsailor on the flip. weird the kinship betw. the two. the vocal acrobatics, the frightening, hackle-raising shreiks, the contorted chords that Sharrock and Lee Underwood were breaking their fingers on, the beyond-jazz all parties were doing that no one has touched since. they also both have little Parisian ditties on 'em (Bolero and Moulin Rouge). did you ever heard those Yoko reissues with the weird Derek Bailey type things John was doing on "Mulberry" i think it's titled? what weren't they up to then?

― b8a, Thursday, 11 August 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)

"(scott, you mean byard?)"

yeah, Byard. there was actually a big to-do about it a few years back cuz the cops picked him up for playing outside a wawa store and everyone got all up in arms.

http://www.ooopz.com/byard/html/home.htm

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 August 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

what is everybody talking about?? hstencil don doesnt deal with jazz lps so i dont think he could really help me out with a discount, I actaully work at record exchange too so i was able to listen to a side of the record today. We aren't supposed to put on rare records (19.99 and above) in the store but i just put on the first side when no one was looking. It started out with sort of quiet flute and percussion and bass lots of notes free playing, pretty cool, then gets into loud free jazz, awesome, then a particularly manic version of 'Mr. PC', more free jazz i think, then quiet piano stuff with someone, Byard probably, singing soul music style over it. Awesome record! I'm gonna buy it. I guess thats kind of alot but the only other copy i saw on the internet was being sold for 50 pounds or euros or whatever. I have, or my dad has, the one on Vortex with Sonny Sharrock (It's Not Up To Us). I dont remember liking it that much but I'll listen to it again. I remember it being a little to mellow or melodic, though I liked SS's playing on some parts.

― Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Thursday, 11 August 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

Daniel, it's not just mellow: check Andy's review, at that first link he left. Sorry bout the jazz geezer babble! But too late to stop now(Skot:that is one different little site--and among its links is itself, as well it might be)(Glad he got that straightened out. What's a wawa store? For delicious H20? Pedals? Both?) (More non-fusiony, speculativey funky jazz of that era: Phil Ranelin, bass trombonist and Motown sessionist, had at least a couple of albums on Tribe, featuring Marcus Belgrave, reissued a few years ago; don't know if still in cataloge, but they were from www,heftyrecords.com)(haven't heard the Steve Reid or Eddie Gale reissues some were buzzing about last year or so)

― don, Thursday, 11 August 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

Isn't "Mr. PC" just the greatest tune? LOVE it when folks tear into it at breakneck tempo.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 11 August 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

yes indeed (and I bet James Carter, David Murray, and Steve Coleman are Byardwatchers too)

― don, Thursday, 11 August 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

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