The Human League have never released a terrible single

"I Need Your Loving." Not as bad as you may remember.

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Don't give me any crap about it 'tailing off after 1983'!!

1. Being Boiled
2. The Dignity Of Labour
3. I Don't Depend On You
4. Empire State Human
5. Rock and Roll/Marianne double 7"
6. Boys and Girls
7. Sound Of The Crowd
8. Love Action
9. Open Your Heart
10. Don't You Want Me
11. Mirror Man
12.(Keep Feeling) Fascination
13. The Lebanon
14. Life On Your Own
15. Louise
16. Human
17. I Need your Loving
18. Love Is All That Matters
19. Heart Like A Wheel
20. Tell Me When

-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), August 19th, 2003.

It’s not always true that time heals all wounds
There are wounds that you don’t wanna heal
The memories of something really good
Something truly real, that you never found again

Thank you, Martyn

I have never liked "Boys And Girls" though.

"She is awakened by the screams
Of rockets flying from nearby
And scared she clings onto her dreams
To beat the fear that she might die
...And where there used to be some shops
Is where the snipers sometimes hide
He left his home the week before
He thought he'd be like the police
But now he finds he is at war
"Weren't we supposed to keep the peace"

I'd never noticed that lyric about "where there used to be some shops" before.

JtN absolutely OTM about Louise - Sunday's regret after Dare's long Saturday night.

Ha - I know what you mean Marcello - it's the squelchy notebending that sounds like something off Arc of A Diver. Doesn't ruin it though.

1. We Don't Need This Fascist Groove Thang
2. I'm Your Money
3. Play To Win
4. Penthouse And Pavement
5. At The Height Of The Fighting
6. Let Me Go
7. Temptation
8. Come Live With Me
9. Crushed By The Wheels Of Industry
10. Sunset Now
11. This Is Mine
12. ...And That's No Lie
13. Contenders
14. Trouble
15. Foolish Thing To Do
16. The Ballad Of Go Go Brown
17. Train Of Love In Motion
18. Designing Heaven
19. We Blame Love

The phrase "tails off dramatically halfway through" springs to mind.

"That's not terrible."

Be honest now, it's not quite as catchy / memorable / danceable as "Sound Of The Crowd", "Love Action", "Open Your Heart", "Don't You Want Me"....

Welcome back Doc! Have you heard our official ILX jingle yet?

That first half is pretty darned stunning 'though.

Dr. Feegood - The UA Years (which I believe is in chronological order, at least as far as I can remember) showing another quite unmistakeable incidence of tailing off dramatically halfway through.

1. Roxette
2. She Does It Right
3. Back In The Night
4. Going Back Home
5. Riot In Cell Block Number Nine
6. Sneakin' Suspicion
7. She's A Wind Up
8. Baby Jane
9. Down At The Doctors
10. Milk And Alcohol
11. As Long As The Price Is Right
12. Put Him Out Of Your Mind
13. Hong Kong Money
14. No Mo Do Yakamo
15. Jumping From Love To Love
16. Violent Love
17. Waiting For Saturday Night
18. Monkey
19. Trying To Live My Life Without You
20. Crazy About Girls
21. My Way
22. Mad Man Blues
23. See You Later Alligator
24. Hunting Shooting Fishing

-- Tom (freakytrigge...), August 24th, 2005.

Both abstracted from "Public Image"...

Marc, you jest about not noticing that "and where there used to be some shops" line? It was all people talked about for two years, back in the day plus three...

Stew, it wasn't until I got the recent reissue of "Smash it up" that I remembered how much "Burglar" did the same re PIL...

13 I did hear, and it was terrible.

Of course I jest...

"Going Back Home" isn't great and "Riot In Cell Block Number Nine" was probably a mistake but "Sneakin' Suspicion", "She's A Wind Up" and "Baby Jane" are all superb.

"They should never have gone stereo."

They should certainly have considered their options very carefully after Wilko left.

i'm still having trouble coming to terms with the fact that tina turner's come back was all down to heaven 17.

Try playing those two and Neat Neat Neat back to back.

After that, I forget my point.

Oh yeah, should have packed it a couple of years after Wilko went.

"Neat Neat Neat" (is not equal to) "Public Image"

won't work, right?

And where were they in the film, eh? The thanks you get for helping people...

I saw Dr. Feelgood at the After Dark several times but only once with Wilko.

They were always pretty good (which is far more than can be said for the Lee Brilleaux-less version now doing the rounds which I had the misfortune to see at a punk festival in Minehead a few years back!) but never anything like as good as they were that first time with Wilko.

Hmm, as bad as the Marc Bolan-less T-rex?

"Neat Neat Neat" (is not equal to) "Public Image""

I'm not prepared to admit that, even if it is true.

Listen to all three in sequence 'though: "Neat Neat Neat": "Public Image": "Burglar" with particular reference to the bass lines.

1. Dreaming Of Me
2. New Life
3. Just Can't Get Enough
4. See You
5. The Meaning Of Love
6. Leave In Silence
7. Get The Balance Right
8. Everything Counts
9. Love In Itself (#2)
10. People Are People
11. Master And Servant
12. Somebody/Blasphemous Rumours
13. Shake The Disease
14. It's Called A Heart
15. Stripped
16. A Question Of Lust
17. A Question Of Time
18. Strangelove
19. Never Let Me Down Again
20. Behind The Wheel
21. Personal Jesus
22. Enjoy The Silence
23. Policy Of Truth
24. I Feel You
25. Walking In My Shoes
26. Condemnation
27. In Your Room
28. Barrel Of A Gun
29. It's No Good
30. Home
31. Useless
32. Only When I Lose Myself
33. Dream On
34. I Feel Loved
35. Freelove

They kind of lost me from 28 onwards, but 1-27 are I think pretty well impeccable.

I didn't know that. However I am reliably informed (well, I don't think my parents have ever bothered to lie to me about anything that trivial before) that it was actually originally called The Majestic back in the '50's.

Actually I think I'm right in saying that my parents met there.

"Hmm, as bad as the Marc Bolan-less T-rex?"

I cannot comment as I have yet to experience this curious phenomenon.

Yes, I believe it was called the Majestic then too. That's what they said when they reopened it. I think it was the bingo hall before they shut down the big one and remade 'that' into the bingo hall.

i dare say hollywood weren't interested in a couple of blokes from sheffield who looked like accountants on top of the pops.

I have not seen the Bolanless T-Rex, but I HAVE seen a Les McKeown-less Bay City Rollers featuring Eric Faulkner and some random scallies. I also saw Brian Connelly's 'New Sweet'. Brian was FAT.

oddly enough, they seem to have disowned the videos for see you, meaning of love, leave in silence and get the balance right. understandably, i can accept the disowning of the meaning of love video as it's really bad, the see you video wasn't as bad. nearly tho.

I assume this must have been before he had a series of alcohol-induced strokes, as a result of which he developed such a pronounced slur and stammer that he was actually unable to sing at all and just had to mime while the rest of the band provided all the actual vocals?

What bit of the phrase "live tracks/remixes/reissues notwithstanding" didn't you understand?

And where were they in the film, eh? The thanks you get for helping people...

I'm sure they're introduced in a bar as "two guys from England who want to make a record with you". Blink-and-you'd-miss-it stuff though.

'Blasphemous Rumours' was always far too over the top for me.

And then Cabaret Voltaire -- the Seeds' No Escape (again, '79?).

I love "The Lebanon." It's the best U2 song of the period.

As a Philip Oakey audition for Nasty, "I Need Your Loving" is very am using.

Addmittedly, "Human" and "Love Is All That Matters" don't sound much like Human League singles either, but at least they sound like wonderful SOS Band material, representing Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis at their best.

i've finally got round to buying a second-hand copy of "romantic?" having become obsessed - like the thread-starter! - with the 12" of "heart like a wheel". it should be winging its way to me as i type. (quite hard to find on the net, "romantic?". i was surprised.) i can't wait to hear "rebound" again; IIRC it was prime league spooky goodness.

i met phil oakey in pizza express in sheffield the other week. he was - and i absolutely jest not - sitting with two young girls, one blonde, one brunette, and wearing a comedy shirt with massive lapels. i went up as he was leaving and thanked him for "all the wonderful music" or something corny. he was incredibly magnanimous and we chatted about random shit for about five minutes. thoroughly top lad.

if mrs fiendish hadn't witnessed the whole thing i'd swear i'd hallucinated it after a dodgy anchovy.

You're daft. "Human" is quite marvelous; if it were better sung, it wouldn't be as affecting.

My favorite Crash tune is "Jam."

It was a good idea for them to return to their typical synthpop style on "Romantic?", which may have been patchy, but still got them back where they belonged musically, which ultimately helped them come up with "Secrets", their best album since "Dare!".

hahah. i've got this image of him going: "hey, this lot are good. they been going for a while, then? never heard them before."

i'm sitting in the dark listening to "rebound" ("romantic?" was waiting for me at work) and it's fucking wonderful.

that was a long time ago. perhaps i should check it out. gaah.

i am very easily led tonight, it seems.