David S Ware - C or D?

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Classic, sez me. One of the most unique voices of the 'third wave' NYC free jazz scene. Best, IMHO, on his own (I don't much like Susie Ibarra's drumming as a rule) - there's this killer live solo thing I wish I could remember the name of. Who's with me?

The JZA (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I have "Go See the World" by Ware....I like it. I also own like 6 jazz CDs and know dick about jazz, so maybe he sucks, who knows?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't much like Susie Ibarra's drumming as a rule

I think I like her style the best out of all his drummers. Well, actually, what am I saying, I love Hamid Drake. You know what I mean. I think she really complements Ware's playing. She's got such a nice touch.

Admittedly, I haven't heard any solo Ware stuff, but the Live in the World three-disc that came out this year is truly amazing.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Go See the World is my favorite of his studio discs.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Live in the World seconded, especially since there's a different drummer on each disc (Guillermo being my favorite, even though I love the hell out of Hamid)

mcd, I hear you about Susie, no doubt she's a capable drummer, but i think I just dislike that light touch / octopus technique, and prefer more of a visceral drum style (like, say Rashied Ali's). It can't ALL be 'texture,' in my opinion, it's gotta swing / rock SOMETIMES, you know? She seems to have much more in common with the conceptual / academic European improvisers than with somebody like, say, Tom Bruno. Wouldn't you agree?

The JZA (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I see what you mean, definitely. I believe she studied with Milford Graves who does the "octopus" thing, though I'd say he swings like a motherfucker, too. She's got a more clinical style.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Saw her live once with the Ware quartet and I thought she swung like an octopus.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

eight arms to hold you

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

oh man this sucks : (

Dear friends,

This is an urgent notice on David S. Ware’s health. David needs to find a kidney donor.

David S. Ware was diagnosed with kidney failure in 1999 and he began dialysis that fall. He had an intensive three week hemodialysis regime toward beginning peritoneal (self-administered) dialysis, which would allow him to travel. David has been on this self-administered dialysis regime multiple times every day and night since October 1999. While certainly difficult, he has been able to travel, and perform his music undiminished, since then.

However, late this past December, David called to say that after 9 years this treatment was no longer working as it had been, and that a kidney transplant is the only viable option for his survival.

Since then a number of friends and family members have offered to give him one of their kidneys. Unfortunately, they have all been disqualified due to health reasons or not having David's blood type, O.

Some basic/initial requirements for viable donors are that they must be under 60 years of age, do not have diabetes or high blood pressure, are in general good health, and have blood type O (either O+ or O- is fine).

The hospital where a transplant would take place is the very highly regarded Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital in New Brunswick, NJ
http://www.rwjuh.edu/

Willing and able potential donors should please get in touch with us as soon as possible:

Steven Joerg / David S. Ware management
✧✧✧@aumfidel✧✧✧.c✧✧
telephone: 718 854 2387

We will then get them directly in touch with the Kidney Transplant Center at RWJU Hospital to begin the screening process for donor viability.

Thank you on behalf of David S. Ware;
please feel free to forward this notice.

Steven Joerg
AUM Fidelity

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 16 January 2009 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

That's terrible. Here's hoping something/someone comes through.

As for the initial subject of discussion, Flight of I has long been one of my favorites, and, more recently, I love the "with strings" album Threads, which I seem to be in the minority on.

DLee, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Terrible news. Hope he finds a donor. (I'm diabetic, so disqualified.)

As far as the discography's concerned, there aren't many duds. I would say the absolute peaks are Flight of I, Go See the World, Surrendered (probably his most accessible album - super-melodic), Live in the World, Dao and Wisdom of Uncertainty. A lot of people love Third Ear Recitation, but it's never been one of my favorites. And Freedom Suite is a better idea than album.

The new one, Shakti, is the first one with a new band featuring Joe Morris on guitar, William Parker on bass and Warren Smith on drums; I think it comes out next Tuesday. It's pretty interesting stuff - Morris and Ware share lead duties pretty easily, and the sheer discipline of Ware's playing (no matter how long he solos for, he never seems to waste notes) is unaffected by the new lineup.

unperson, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

hope a donor can be found soon and that the transplant etc. goes well enough to ensure many more albs and gigs - aisde from maybe sabir mateen and paul flaherty, can't think of many more convincing upholders of the fire music flame

Ward Fowler, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Sad news: David passed away tonight.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 19 October 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

That's too bad. I really enjoyed his major label record, with its unimpeachable lineup: Ware, Matthew Shipp, William Parker, and Susie Ibarra.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 October 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

Both his major label albums (Go See the World and Surrendered) are terrific. I was in the studio when they recorded some of Surrendered, as well as the sessions for Corridors & Parallels, the album after that. Interviewed Ware at his home in NJ, saw the quartet play at least three times, maybe four. An absolutely titanic band. I'll miss him.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 19 October 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, what a talent, what a player, what a band :-(

Ward Fowler, Friday, 19 October 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link

Some thoughts on Ware.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 19 October 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

Quite a nice piece sir.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 19 October 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

Great piece.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 19 October 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

Flight of I and Third Ear Recitation are fucking amazing albums. I only just got into Ware via the Apogee re-issue this year and I am sure glad I did.

The New Faeces (xelab), Monday, 21 December 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

https://davidsware.bandcamp.com/album/the-balance-vision-festival-xv

awesome trio w/ William Parker + Warren Smith.

calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 11:23 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

Been really heavy into Ware over the last year.
"Go See The World" & "Flight Of I" both getting heavy play in my car during commute-time.
"Third Ear Recitation" and "Cryptology" coming close behind.
The Silkheart CDs are tough to find these days, any leads appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4VcJGWPiUo

ian, Sunday, 3 November 2024 22:47 (two days ago) link


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