****LAWDY LAWD IT'S THE STOOPID FRESH ILX 1980s MUSIX POLL NOMINATIONS THREAD****

Can we pick non-single tracks or must they have been singles? (we've done it both ways on past polls)

Singles:
everything

this is the right thread for nominating, the other is the right thread for voter baiting. only 15 nods to make it hard for you and easy for me.

Singles:
Cameo - "Word Up"
Company B - "Fascinated"
Oran "Juice" Jones - "The Rain"
Journey - "Stone In Love"
M/A/R/R/S - "Pump Up The Volume"
John Cougar Mellencamp - "Pink Houses"
The Pogues - "Fairytale Of New York"
Ratt - "Round And Round"

Galaxie 500 -- Today
New Order -- Technique
Glenn Branca -- The Ascension
Inner City -- Big Fun
Ministry -- The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste
Def Leppard -- Hysteria

SINGLES

PTP -- Rubber Glove Seduction
Kim Carnes -- Bette Davis Eyes
Sons of Freedom -- The Criminal
Jesus and Mary Chain -- You Trip Me Up
Model 500 -- No UFO's
New Order -- Ceremony
L'il Louis -- French Kiss
Neneh Cherry -- Buffalo Stance
Depeche Mode -- Never Let Me Down Again

I'm hatin' the no more than nine rule ... not ... enough ... singles ...

Albums:
Soft Cell - Non-stop Erotic Cabaret
Go-Betweens - Before Hollywood
African Head Charge - My Life In a Hole In the Ground
Sugarcubes - Life's Too Good
Television Personalities - And Don't the Kids Just Love It
Aztec Camera - High Land, Hard Rain
Orange Juice - You Can't Hide Your Love Forever
Raincoats - Odyshape

V/A - Repo Man soundtrack
Go-Betweens - Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond Express
Teardrop Explodes - Kilimanjaro
Napalm Death - From Enslavement to Obliteration
Durutti Column - LC
New Order - Substance

Singles

The Associates - Party Fears 2
Suicidal Tendencies - Institutionalized
The Flirts - Passion
New Order - Perfect Kiss
Black Flag - TV Party
Frankie goes to Hollywood - The Power of Love
Rythim is Rythim - Strings of Life
Mccarthy - Should the bible be banned
The Fall - Eat y'self fitter.

Singles:
New Order - Temptation
The Passions - I'm in love with a German Fim Star
Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock - It Takes Two
Public Enemy - Rebel Without a Pause
Siouxsie - Israel
Thrill Kill Kult - Daisy Chain 4 Satan

The Mekons: Rock 'n' Roll
Prince: Dirty Mind
Gang of Four: Entertainment!
Lou Reed: The Blue Mask
Neil Young: Freedom
The Indestructable Beat of Soweto

Singles:

Prince: When Doves Cry
Roxanne Shante: Bite This
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five: The Message
Public Enemy: Bring the Noise
Techtronic: Pump Up the Jam
Mekons: Amnesia
EPMD: Strictly Business
De La Soul: Plug Tunin
Strafe: Set It Off

Also, looks like Hounds of Love is duplicated. And I seem to recall Entertainment! doing rather well in the '70's poll already. :P

LPs
1) The Redskins - "Neither Washington nor Moscow"
2) New Order - "Power Corruption and Lies"
3) Elvis Costello "Punch the Clock"
4) Jesus and Mary Chain "Psychocandy"
5) Scritti Politti "Songs to Remember"
6) World Domination Enterprises "Let's Play Domination"
7) Durutti Column - "Return of the Durutti Column"
8) The Clash - Sandinista

Singles
1) The Smiths - "Ask"
2) World Domination Enterprises "Catalogue Clothes"
3) The Senseless Things "Andii in a Karman" e.p.
4) The Damned "Smash it up"
5) PIL - "Flowers of Romance"
6) Danielle Dax - "Cat House"
7) Malcolm McLaren - "Buffalo Gals"

The English Beat: “Twist and Crawl”
Prince: “Little Red Corvette”
Michael Jackson: “Beat It”
“The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel”
Liliput: “Eisiger Wind”
Prince “Kiss”
Bruce Springsteen: “Born in the U.S.A.”

-- My life with Baaderonixx and the Choco-pops babies, August 26th, 2005 6:19 AM. (later)

I nominated this already ... nominate "Movement" instead :)

I don't think 15 noms is too many ... in a poll where everyone just votes for their faves without any formal noms (i.e. pretty much every non-ILM poll), everybody lists their top 40 and are essentially making 80 picks/"noms" instead of 15. As long as (# of votes) > (# of noms), then its OK.

Ozzy Osbourne - Diary of a Madman
Black Flag - Damaged
U2 - October
Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II
Prince - Purple Rain
Husker Du - Warehouse
Camper Van Beethoven - Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart
Pixies - Surfer Rosa

Singles

Our Lips Are Seeled - The Go-Gos
Senses Working Overtime - XTC
Photograph - Def Leppard
The Killing Moon - Echo & The Bunnymen
Alex Chilton - The Replacements
Prince - Alphabet Street

Huh, no ... if we were voting for, say 10 singles and 10 albums, then I would agree with you. But if we're voting for 40 singles and 40 albums then most of our votes go toward other people's noms, which is the whole point of having noms in the first place.

Also, a person's noms != their top 10/top 15 (not necessarily)

SINGLES:
My Bloody Valentine - You Made Me Realise
George Clinton - Atomic Dog
Cybotron - Clear
Was (Not Was) - Out Come the Freaks
The Gap Band - You Dropped A Bomb On Me
Roger - More Bounce to the Ounce

SINGLES:
Atlantic City: Bruce Springsteen
Safety Net: The Shop Assistants
Unsatisfied: The Replacements
Ana Ng: They Might Be Giants
Cattle and Cane: The Go-Betweens
Jump: Van Halen
Once In A Lifetime: Talking Heads
Memphis, Egypt: The Mekons

Bathory - The Return
Iron Maiden - Killers
Slayer - Show No Mercy
Metallica - Master Of Puppets
Sepultura - Beneath The Remains
The Sisters Of Mercy - First And Last And Always

Singles:

Hellhammer - Apocalyptic Raids EP (a single!)
Starlight - Numero Uno
Front 242 - Headhunter
Ken Laszlo - Hey Hey Guy
Camouflage - The Great Commandment
Scotch - Penguins Invasion
Visage - Fade To Grey
Falco - Jeanny
ABBA - The Day Before You Came

SINGLES:
Julian Cope, "World Shut Your Mouth"
The Bangles, "Walk Like an Egyptian"
Jesus and Mary Chain, "Never Understand"
Pixies, "Gigantic" (note to moderator: I would have picked "Debaser" but to my surprise it was never a single.)
Squeeze, "Tempted (by the fruit of another)"
Culture Club, "Karma Chameleon"
The Clean, "Odditty"
R.E.M., "Radio Free Europe"
A-ha, "Take On Me"

"D" Train - "You're the One for Me"
Madonna - "Into the Groove"
Boys Don't Cry - "I Wanna Be a Cowboy"
Audio Two - "Top Billin'"
S-Express - "Theme from S-Express"
Underworld - "Underneath the Radar"
A Guy Called Gerald - "Voodoo Ray"
The Stone Roses - "Fools Gold 9.53"
Young MC - "Bust a Move"

Exhaustive, no. There's too much good music for that to happen. And like I said before -- most polls don't even have nominations. If we all sent in our top 40's then the list of albums + songs receiving votes would be much larger. Nominations are only useful when the number of voters is limited and you need to limit what people can vote for in order to achieve a consensus and get a meaningful result.

Having said that ... four weeks for nominations is too long. Past polls have been stretched out too long in this way. This thread will remain popular for a while, people will get hyped about the poll, there'll be three weeks where nothing happens and everyone forgets about it. Similarly, four weeks of ballot collection is too long. To maximize "voter turnout", it's best to keep the momentum going while these threads are fresh.

I suggest two weeks of noms and two weeks of voting, max. Everyone gets their votes in at the last minute anyway. Then Darryl S. can take his time tabulating everything, if he wants.

And at that point, how does the nomination process benefit the poll other than simply reminding people of all the music from the decade?

I think that's a good thing! We'll conveniently have a big list from which to choose from, rather than racking our brains trying to remember stuff or flipping through our CD collections looking for old comps.

Albums:

Duran Duran - Rio
The Art of Noise - (Who's Afraid Of?) The Art of Noise! (someone nominate "Moments in Love" for songs plz)
Tones on Tail - Pop
Happy Mondays - Bummed
INXS - Kick
Dinosaur Jr. - Yr Living All Over Me

Singles:

Yaz - Situation
Hall & Oates - I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)
Thompson Twins - Hold Me Now
Love and Rockets - So Alive
The Chills - Pink Frost
Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam - I Wonder If I Take You Home
Pat Benetar - Invincible
Human League - Human
World Class Wreckin' Cru - Surgery

Pet Shop Boys - West End Girls
New Order - True Faith
Morrissey - Suedehead
Pat Benatar - Love is a Battlefield
The Smiths - Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
Jesus & Mary Chain - Just Like Honey
Pixies - Ed Is Dead
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Relax
The Clash - Rock the Casbah

albums later...

Singles:
The Past Seven Days - "Raindance"
Vivien Goldman - "Launderette"
Scritti Politti - "Jacques Derrida"
This Heat - "Health and Efficiency"
Prince - "Uptown"
The Gap Band - "Burn Rubber (Why You Wanna Hurt Me)"
Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - "Messages"
23 Skidoo - "The Gospel Comes to New Guinea"
Associates - "Tell Me Easter's on Friday"

I honestly don't know shit about what is/was an "actual" single in the 80s, so here are a couple educated and ignorant guesses, respectively:

Singles
The Fall, "The Classical"
Galaxie 500, "Blue Thunder"
Sonic Youth, "Daydream Nation" (?)
Stone Roses, "I Wanna Be Adored" (?)

Some things to remember: London Calling and Metal Box/Second Edition should be excluded since we already covered 'em in the 70s poll..

AH! I meant "Teenage Riot".. See? I'm stayin' out of this singles biz..

-- Nag! Nag! Nag!

Well my copy sez 1980. Praps it depends on where you live, a bit like "London Calling"...?

I'll never come up with 100 albums. 100 singles will be easy though.

Damned - "Smash it up" - this was 1979.
Dominatrix - "Dominatrix" "The Dominatrix Sleeps Tonight"
Double Dee & Steinski - Lessons 1 - 3 - that's three tracks, issued completely separately: "Lesson One - The Payoff Mix", "Lesson Two - The James Brown Mix", "Lesson Three - The History Of Hip Hop".
Joe Jackson - It's Different For Girls - also 1979.
Nina Hagen - "New York, New York" "New York (N.Y.)"
NYC Peech Boys - Don't Make Me Wait
Patrick Cowley Paul Parker - "Right On Target" (written & produced by Cowley, but not performed by him).
Pretenders - "Brass in Pocket" - 1979.
Roger Zapp - "More Bounce to the Ounce"
Sylvester & Patrick Cowley - "Do You Wanna Funk?" (Cowley re-instated, hurrah)

Grrr... my CD of "Year Of The Cat" says 1982, which is why I didn't bother to nominate it for the 70s poll.

Grrr again...

Checking the Al Stewart web site, you are right. Grrr...

I guess its too late to change it? Although hypothetically speaking, I'd want to change it to "Let it Bee" by Voice of the Beehive. Hypothetically speaking.

(worth a try. Don't worry if its way too late and you've already done the spreadsheet or something)

With this many nominees, I don't see how anything less than 100 could be possible.

The above makes no sense

But perhaps voters need not be limited by the nominations? I mean there are some very significant ommissions, it would be silly to vote leaving them out entirely. Nominations could be on an "advisory" level.

Haha! I like the way you throw this idea in just at the end of a month of nominations. I don't see it being a very popular move.

Otherwise "up to 100 per" pretty much guarantees singles domination.

it's not Morrissey's fault his best LP doesn't fit in with ILM's decade fascism

Ryan Adams and David Rawlings to thread. "naw dude it's Viva Hate..."

(xpost)
But perhaps voters need not be limited by the nominations?

Agreed. Also, restricting voters to the 80s seems kind of, I dunno, limiting. So maybe it could be more like 1978-1991? Also, I'd like to vote for books and movies. And that poster of Farrah Fawcett, which a lot of people still had up in the early 80s. And cars - Audi Quattro Coupe was CLASSIC.

"Our Canadian one-hitters rock harder than their Canadian one-hitters!"

The only way that this would make sense would be if you had lots of titles tied at the end, right? Or do you think you should be voting for every track you really like? You're supposed to rank them. The cutoff point is arbitrary, independent of what you like--100 shouldn't be any easier or harder than 10, 35, etc., once you've ranked them. (well it would be harder if you couldn't find 100 you'd heard and therefore couldn't rank them)

Er, yes. How else could it work?

Why, massive free-for-all, of course.

we need a ruling on mike t-diva's objections. personally, I think the Damned objection is a fair cop, very clearly not an 80s track, but I'd let all the rest in.

also Scoundrel Days is listed twice, one of these needs to be deleted

oh absolutely, why i was waiting till last minute to get my noms in and then i fucked up wht tha deadline was - idjit me-

no Chaka I feel for you, no Prince Erotic City or A Love Bizarre - argh I could kill myself

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1. Paste the list into Excel.
2. Add a blank left hand column.
3. Work down the list, marking every candidate for inclusion with an X in the left hand column.
4. Go to the top of the left hand column, and select Data - Filter - Autofilter.
5. Click on the arrow on the top left column, and select X. This will display just the tracks you've selected. (I was left with 154 out of the original 663.)
6. Copy and paste the filtered list into a new worksheet tab.
7. Taking successive groups of 10, re-order each group into order of preference.
8. Once you've got your groups of 10, highlight the top tracks in each group - the ones you absolutely ADORE, without reservation - in bold.
9. Next, highlight the bottom tracks in each group - the ones you could live without - in red.
10. Merge all your emboldened tracks together, in order of preference. That's your top set.
11. Merge all the non-bold, non-red tracks together. That's your next set.
12. Get rid of anything below line 100. Be brutal.
13. Work through the final list in your mind, one by one, starting from 100 and working up. Each time, the track you're concentrating on should be displayed on the top line of your screen, so you can't peek ahead. Click the Down arrow to get the next track. Is it REALLY better than the one before? If not, then re-position it lower.
14. Hey presto, you have your 100!

"Love Vigilantes," "Age of Consent" and "Vanishing Point" are all non-singles. However, if we're allowing highly renowned album tracks to be counted--ones that have reps as high as the singles--then those def. should be counted, as they're probably NO's three biggest non-singles (all even on their '95 best-of). That said, being non-singles, I didn't vote for them--if for no other reason than it helped me narrow down my list to only 7 New Order inclusions.

Good Dr. Bill's clarification/ruling stands. i'm darryl strawberry btw (DARE ME TO CONFIRM AND WATCH ME AMAZE YOU), i only haven't revealed this out of shame of somehow getting the first line of 'it takes two' wrong. use your judgment people, i'm hardly gonna go 'uh uh uh - weren't technically a single!'. i was hoping to aim for consensus and avoid fanboys nominating 9 doolittle (but not 9 born in the u.s.a. or 9 thriller or maybe 9 sign o the times i forget) trax. use your judgement people. if i'm counting 'chronic town' as an album (and i'm not only counting it, i'm voting for it), i'm hardly gonna freak over 'debaser' as a single.

Yeah, it was a pre-album single in the spring of 1991. A different version of it was played as a John Peel session in very late 1990 (but not released until much later), but by no stretch of the imagination is it in the 80s.