September 15: Screwed Up Click and Bun-B in NYC for $10!!!!

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Without getting too street-teamy (as this is my club and all), anybody with a taste for DJ Screw music would be COMPLETELY OUT OF THEIR MIND to miss this cheap and likely incredible show at Joe's Pub.
Thurs, September 15, 11-4.
AND it's a hurricane benefit; all the door goes to the Red Cross (ten bucks is "suggested donation", drop more if you can).
Who's gonna meet up with me?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

lucky motherfuckerQ!!!>>>#!>RJ!>!!

amon (eman), Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I got an email about this. I RSVP'd and I think I might even come, seeing as how I get off work at 11 that night.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Only one? ILM, I shake my head at you.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 11 September 2005 05:30 (twenty years ago)

who from the s.u.c.?

lil jay'ton, Sunday, 11 September 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)

cause that could be any of like 50 guys

lil jay'ton, Sunday, 11 September 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

i'd go if i were in NYC. i'll just have to settle for the Ghostface show here in Oct., ho hum.

amon (eman), Sunday, 11 September 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

" COMPLEX MAGAZINE, HoustonSoReal and Oxycottontail Present:
THE SCREWED UP CLICK(Lil Keke, Lil O, Hawk, Big Pokey – Originators of the Houston sound); G.R.i.T. BOYS (Houston’s next generation – Mo’ Betta); SHORT DAWG (Russell Simmons Music Group); With DJ CHILL (www.djchill.com) & RAPID RIC (www.mixtapemechanic.com) on the wheels all night long. Hosted By: BUN B. OF UGK! "

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 11 September 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

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September 16, 2005

Ain't got love for those crackers, no motherfuckin' white jackers, no motherfuckers comin down tryna snatch us up.

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The Rakes - "Retreat"
The Rakes - "Work Work Work (Pub, Club, Sleep)"

- As Jeezy would say, THHAAAAAT'S RIGHT! It was time for New New York to peep game on the folks from the Screwed Up Clique and they took it to our Yankee asses with style and grace (for the most part). Good lookin' out to all the bols and jawns that came through to chip in their hard earned skrilla for the Red Cross and pour out a little purple drank for the late great Richard Davis Jr, the Sultan of Syrup.

- E.S.G. and Lil Keke took the stage with some bass-heavy jawns (not sure on the names) spun by Texan DJ Rapid Ric and absolutely murdered the place, shining brighter than Paul Wall's teeth in a tanning bed. Shit was hectic. Bols and jawns from all races, ethnicities, creeds, religions, hoods were booty-shakin' all over the place and really turning it into a regular ol' heatrock.

- The rest of the night was un-noteworthy. H.A.W.K. and Lil O put on a fluid show but were bogged down in misogynist, racist heckling of the audience. Would you guys have called the supervisor at a job interview a "hot vanilla piece of ass over by the bar" or compared her unfavorably to Chelsea Clinton and suggest she needed to "suck a little dick tonight"? Real professional, guys. But I forgot you've never had to get a real job. I can get down with all that "machismo" bullshit sometimes but not when my lady is in the crowd. I dunno. I try not to think about this shit, but in this case it’s just too noticeable and very, very lame.

- Bun B was a big teddy bear and granted me an exclusive after the show, breaking out his iPod Nano and playing me his new collabo with M.I.A. with the boy Dizzee Rascal pon di remix. Two words: bonafide heatrock. We traded AIM names and he says he might be able to lace me with his baile funk-inspired track featuring JR Writer (Dyyip-SUTTTTT) and produced by a mystery producer. Heh. I'll let you boys figure that one out for yall's selves.

- Any and ways! Peep game on Big Bro 6: Linkage.

yeshua, Sunday, 11 September 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)

i hear Joe's Pub sells sizzurp for like $12 a styrofoam cup.

Beta (abeta), Sunday, 11 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

baby shake ya jelly like jell0

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Sunday, 11 September 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

i'm planning to maybe go.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't aware we sold sizzurp. Yak, yes. Sizzurp, no.
Look me up if you come: bald white guy without facial hair in blue t-shirt screaming for a cover of Rock Island Line C+S

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Also: I have just been informed that Gang of Four will be attending.
Probably not performing.
But you never know.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 September 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Actually, it's a two-sizzurp minimum. (Sorry.)

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 15 September 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

shit man. i didn't know you worked there? i had a real new york moment. i was in the neighborhood and swung by and there was some list only bullshit going on!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 16 September 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

I didn't go because I had to go home and get the baby to bed. I'm bummed, I wanted to meet Matt S.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 16 September 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

haha me and status ain't hood dude in the same boat.

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Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 17 September 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

who do you have to fuck in this town to see a goddamn rap show?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 17 September 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

Me, apparently.
Sorry about the issues to both you and status, Sterling; by the time we had all the bands, promoters, posses and staff in; we were already dangerously close to capacity. That's what happens when you get something like fourteen musicians out and they each bring an entourage. It's not meant to be velvet rope snobbery; it's just making sure the place doesn't get shut down for overpacking.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

I heard the jawnizzles were truly spectacular.

peep game, Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

It was funnier when Gov't Names did Catchdubs. A for effort, tho.

Chris Lemon-Red, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

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peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 97,300 for jawn. (0.07 seconds)

results, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

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peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

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peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

still tired from Friday -- yer boy does not do 4am often. Young Catch and the Bananas did a hot three-man rotation all night long (n.h., obv.) and prevailed over a soundsystem that overheated every 15 minutes or so. Jawns dancing and urrbody moving all night long, they were actually turning peoople away at the door, which I'm told doesn't happen often there. I was ensconced at a table, catching up with the blog illuminati: Nick "Piff Central" Sylvester, Brendan Funwrecker and a gaggle of Phoenix peeps were all in attendance. I really hope Certified manage to make this something regular, because Boston needs it. Peep photo game--

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It hurt me when I had to pop yo' whole crew fo' dolo. Gotta pay dem bills, dunny.

peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Meantimes, check out the typically dope flyer that Rory made for Caps & Jones' Toronto invasion. I’ll be tagging along with them boys.
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peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

what's going on?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

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I have a headache that will not stop, and the only thing giving me sweet respite is Prussian Blue's new album, Road to Valhalla. Jawns is tight and criminally underrated in this 'nu folk' game. Sistas have chops like Jack 'Dr. Ragtime' Rose and not half the recognition. Get on this shit, 4 rill. They're touring like mad this spring, too. Catch ya boy at that Folk The System show for rillz, and please donate to Katrina's white victims at the link down thurr.
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peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

ILL TELL YOU WHATS GOIN ON
WHITE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT LISTEN TO BLACK PEOPLES MUSIC
ALL THOSE POSERS LISTENING TO RAP AND BEING WHITE ARE STR8 POSERS
SEEE THIS GUY HAS POSTED LOTS OF FUNNY PICTURES TOGETHER SHOWING WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON WITH THESE POSERS
OBVIOUSLY WE WHITE MEN NEED PEOPLE LIKE THIS WITH SO MUCH FREE TIME TO GO TO THE TROUBLE OF POINTING OUT ALL THE POSERS
FAKERS
CANT WE ALL JUST CLAP OUR HANDS AND SAY YEAH?!?!?!
IF U R WHITE LISTEN TO WHITE MUSICK
CHRIST PEOPLE LISTEN UP.. DO I HAVE TO POST AGAIN
AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN?

stick2yrOWN (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

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Prussian Blue - The Stranger - This song is sheer poetry. It starts off like a fairly normal indie/grunge ballad, which is fine enough, but it really hits hard once it slows down to a crawl and you've got no choice but to hang on every syllable and note. The negative space is filled with nervous anticipation, and each moment seems invested with worlds of meaning. Download the MP3 here.

peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

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In the sphere of popular music and popular culture, the most immediate way to comprehend the shift in racialized positions throughout the 20th and 21st centuries, is simply to close the eyes and pick an arbitrary example of white supremacy’s extraordinary ability to adapt itself to new contexts. Hollertronix. There it is. Why single out these two guys? It’s not to lay blame at their feet. There are dozens of other instances of the same phenomenon. That it takes under a minute to find an example is troubling, to say the least.

But the most recent Hollertronix flyer is floating about, and their website speaks volumes. The front page of their site hints at what they are doing. Why is Flavor Flav on one their flyers? The history of these DJs is even more offensive. The question I have to ask here is: Why the need for Black hip-hop artists, from Lil’ Jon to Flavor Flav, in addition to images of Black women in their publicity material, and unnamed Black faces ‘holding’ pieces of text, or the Black men at the center, on the very first page of the site? Clearly, this is not accidental. They have a graphic design company under contract. The pictures they provide are, finally, the visual evidence of their appropriation of Black culture. The audiences in Philly, New York, Sundance are overwhelmingly white. But, there are a sufficient number of photographs of Black people suggesting that their music crosses racial boundaries or simply that they have a ‘multicultural’ following. But isn’t this reminiscent of the standard undergraduate catalogue at any given non-HBCU, in which the cover photograph nearly always depicts at least two students of color, smiling, and is then dotted with other photos showing ‘racial harmony’ to convince would-be applicants that the institution is truly ‘inclusive’ and is a comfortable place for Black people and other students of color? (I hope not to insult the reader’s intelligence, by stating that HBCU is the acronym for ‘Historically Black Colleges and Universities").

Returning to Hollertronix, Why on earth are they represented as crunk DJs? Certainly crunk has been exposed to a wider audience in the last two-three years, as Lil’ Jon and The Ying-Yang twins signed to TVT, Three 6 Mafia are on Sony , etc. But what is the relation between white people and emergent Black musical genres such that white people are so eager to begin playing/making/producing a given Black genre almost as soon as they hear it? It has been happening in the US for decades. The last thing to do is read me as saying that there is some absolute racial purity at work when Black people invent a new cultural form. I’m talking very specifically about Black culture as a whole way of life. I can’t claim Black folks own crunk. But you might well want to own something in a country in which your ancestors did not own their own bodies.

Consider crunk’s origins. it began In Black strip clubs in Atlanta and Memphis. Fortunately, the extraordinary ingenuity and pace with which Black culture, in all its forms changes form, shape, and content is too complex for white kids to mimic as it emerges. But the popularity of Hollertronix arises, at the very least (on the part of cops, for example), from the fact of youth and whiteness, which, in the US, will take you a long way. The old maxim � you’re free, white, and twenty one� is far more than just an idle comment.

That crunk began to attract a young, white, suburban audience it no shock at all. But I ask that you consider this: For as long as the US has defined itself, Black people have been the object of both fear and fascination, terror and allure, lust and hatred. During enslavement, this took the form of lynchings, rape, torture, humiliation and numerous other kinds of violence. Those acts have been made ‘illegal’ and Abraham Lincoln made the so-called ‘emancipation proclamation’. The unconscious power of the fear/fascination dynamic and its analogues has not diminished one iota. Hollertronix are merely one instance of this terror/allure dynamic, the sadomasochism which defines black/white ‘relations’ in the US.
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peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

I've been listening to the Lucksmiths lately.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

WE GET IT
WE GET IT!!!!
WHITE PEOPLE NEED TO STOP LISTENING TO BLACK MUSIC
LOOK AT ALL THE WIGGERS IN HOLLERTRONIX
MORE LIKE LOLLERTRONIX AM I RIGHT GUYS?
THATS WHAT THIS GUY IS SAYING
YOU POST A PICTURE OF DIPLO AND THE KKK WHICH PROVES THEY ARE THE SAME THING
IF ONLY OUR BELEAGURED COURTS SYSTEM HAD THIS PERSONS GREAT INTUITIVENESS
FUCK OFF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WANT TO DANCE AND MAKE GOOD MUSIC
YOURE WHITE
GO LISTEN TO GUIDED BY VOICES OR SOMETHING
AM I RIGHT GUYS?????

stick2yrOWN, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

I enjoy Guided by Voices and Beanie Sigel! I'm so *diverse*! I also listen to the one Robert Wyatt album that I own! I like country music too! There's just no telling with ol' M@tt He1geson!!! He's crazy!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

I think here's why it seems disingenuine...

How come places like Pitchfork and Stylus weren't covering Lil Jon/David Banner/Juelz Santana two years ago in the same way they cover Paul Wall/Young Jeezy/Bun B now?

Am I wrong?

~C

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

The new David Banner is the lead review on Pfork, while the first one was all but ignored by them and most indie-type publiciations/sites.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

But the inclusion of non-indie rawk had already started happening before then, just not to the extent it has now. I remember someone (possibly rightfully) bemoaning the fact that wire and pitchfork seemed to be moving closer towards each other. But if pfork wants to stop covering bland indie pop so much and come with some reviews of major music, whats the problem?? The people doing those reviews (Julianne, Jess, Drew Daniel, etc, etc.) are inarguably better writers than pfork's crew prior to their entrance. It actually makes me want to read pfork again. I don't think its disingenuous, its just that pforks readers might be able to recognize that major label music isnt all bad these days, where as 2 years ago it mightve been more contentious.

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

not to dismiss or diss the entire pfork staff by the comment about the newer writers... some of them were and still are some of my favorites (i guess im really thinking of dleone in particular)

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

SAGE FRANCIS: HIP-HOP YOU CAN TRUST

peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

i can get down with all that "machismo" bullshit sometimes, but not when my lady is in the crowd.

what a dick, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

The new David Banner is the lead review on Pfork, while the first one was all but ignored by them and most indie-type publiciations/sites.
-- Whiney G. Weingarten (cweingarte...), September 21st, 2005. (whineyg)

So, you can't have your tastes change over time? By that measure I guess I can't listen to anything except like Judas Priest (or Joan Jett, the first record I ever owned!)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

OTM with both of yr last posts, M@tt.
also, Mr. Peep Game sounds like the kind of twat who would actually LIKE sage francis.

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Shitty albums which have been released within the past month, will official, wide-release, jewel-case Screwed & Chopped versions:

Baby Bash - Tha Smokin' Nephew
Big Tymers - Heavyweights

*shudder*

Someone online did an unofficial Twista one a while back which was pretty cool. You could actually understand him.

peep game, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like $omeone is on a quest against corny white people.

deej.., Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I write for Stylus (so I'm biased?), but there have been reviews of both S+C David Banner albums, MTA2, both Diplomatic Immunitiy comps, consistently attention paid to hip-hop singles in the Singles Jukebox columns for a few years now. I mean, we're far from being comprehensive, but...

That said, I've got plenty of respect for PFork's efforts to broaden its breadth, for sure. And since when is diversity so reprehensible?

mike powell (mike powell), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

CAN WE GET THIS THREAD BACK TO BEING ABOUT CORNY WHITE HIPSTERS' VICE-ESQUE APPROPRIATION OF "NIGGER" TALK PLZ

, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

Many xposts:

I'm def. not trying to hate. I generally think it's a good thing that these guys are trying to broaden their base. It got me reading the site again too.

I'm just sort of curious on why it's happening. And how long it's gonna last.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

i think its happening because
1) mainstream music is getting a little better, at LEAST more interesting...
2) indie rock/pop is at a low point
3) slsk has now been around long enough for everyone to explore the deep dark, wonderful crevaces of experimental/rare/vintage music in all its facets, and now people want something different
4) there is much easier access to great writing about both popular music and hip/hop and other black musics to put things in perspective for those that didnt grow up in marcy (waynewax, jace, et al)

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I was going to say

1. The staff/editors are getting older & expanding their tastes.
2. They want to broaden their reader base & try to play down the idea that they're a "niche" site.

But I guess your point 4 reflects on both these ideas.

mike powell (mike powell), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

Actually, both of you are mostly wrong. Except maybe Powell's #2. Otherwise, its pretty much that its an almost completely different staff.

deej.., Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

haha capnkickass is gonna think i'm such a jerk.

deej.., Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

More Klan pictures please.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

well, to just say "yr wrong" and not elaborate or offer up any sort of comment is being annoying to say the least, i dunno if id call you a jerk yet... and i fucking acknowledged that the staff was different and thats why its tolerable now, up in the thread... but how easy is it just to smugly say "yr wrong" and peace out...
must just be this nick and/or email cuz i swear to fuck we've actually conversed and AGREED in the past...

oh and forks, i can post some hottt klan action if you riddlemethis... are the bouncers that were at joes for screwYC there on any regular basis??

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I write for Stylus (so I'm biased?), but there have been reviews of both S+C David Banner albums, MTA2, both Diplomatic Immunitiy comps, consistently attention paid to hip-hop singles in the Singles Jukebox columns for a few years now. I mean, we're far from being comprehensive, but...

That said, I've got plenty of respect for PFork's efforts to broaden its breadth, for sure. And since when is diversity so reprehensible?

-- mike powell (revelator...), September 22nd, 2005.

bragging about reviews of Screwed & Chopped albums does you no favors. IMO reviews of S&C versions of albums in magazines (print or web) are the dumbest bandwagon shit ever, they all have the same stupid introductory paragraph where someone excitedly explains the concept to a reader they assume has never heard of it.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

haha al, most people never HAVE heard of it.

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)

internet music sites are one thing i guess, but when sfj does his patented labored introduction in the new yorker, i guarantee those motherfuckers will be happier for it

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

"clap your hands say cack is more like it for these youthful brooklynites..."

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

most people or most people reading reviews of rap records? i mean c'mon. if the Houston saturation point brings anything positive it'll be when people drop the let-me-explain-it-to-you pretense and can just talk about it. Paul Wall has the #1 album this week, I say the time is now.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

well most people picking up a general interest publication arent necessarily reading it for rap reviews but may just happen to be reading the rap reviews because they're in there. this, i suppose, relates to how one feels about whether or not rap reviews should be in a general interest pub.

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

i wasn't aware the source still did the s&c introduction thingee. but then i also wasnt aware people really reviewed s&c albums after the first putsch with the david banner album.

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

Agreed, and I guess I wasn't really "bragging" so much as I was pointing out that Weingarten was wrong when he said that there was no coverage of this stuff on any online magazines, and only because he asked Am I wrong? and not because I was trying to be a dick.

And still Al, I don't know that all of the New Yorker's audience are necessarily up on the pop charts. Certainly some percentage, but I think a short survey of female AARP members living in small Pennsylvania towns would come up pretty blank on Paul Wall.

mike powell (mike powell), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

ok i meant more web than print but still! stylus ran a ying yang/lil jon S&S review less than a month ago. (xp)

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

also yeah mike i wasn't really talking about the NYer. i'm ok with general public newspapers and old fogey pubs overexplaining things usually. (xp)

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

Anyone think that maybe there are more reviews and attention to southern hip hop because it took over commercial radio and pop over the last couple years? I mean, I'm assuming magic indie world has radios and televisions and occasionally you hear the pizza delivery dude's radio if you don't leave the house...

You also forgot 9/11.

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

All's well then. I guess we should let this thread get back to its original purpose (which was?)

mike powell (mike powell), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

that's a nice theory but Pitchfork wasn't reviewing Jadakiss and shit before the south took over, either. (xp)

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

They didn't have a global media empire then either, what's your point? Half of the non-indie reviews a couple years back were all novelty reviews to diss old acts in the mainstream. I've heard they've hired a few people since then.

I, for one, blame Freaky Trigger and ILM for all this love of all music instead of hiding in a genre.

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

i'm not hating on that in and of itself! i'm ok with Pitchfork the way it is now. and i wrote for them back when they really sucked. anyway i'm going to bed, so truce, or whatever.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
So..... is Pitchfork racist?

Isaac R., Sunday, 11 December 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)


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