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ALERT!!: My blog, Different Cinematography, has started hosting music. I'm doing an album a week, and this week it's 13 Songs. Go (http://differentcinematography.blogspot.com) and let me know what you think. Suggestions would especially be tight.

-dave

Different Cinematography (Dave M), Thursday, 15 September 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

ALERT!!!!!!!

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 15 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

I don't think you should post full albums. Just my opinion.

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 15 September 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

WOW! AN MP3 BLOG?????? GROUNDBREAKING STUFF!!!

conceptual rolodex, Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Wow all those people who feel like ripping off Fugazi NOW have a place to go.

Ian's crying right now. . . (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

sheeeit, i didn't know we were still operating under the belief that sharing musics via the interweb was ripping bands off. isn't that more of a napster era thing?

Mickey, no full albums because its too much? is that why? just wondering. thanks, btw.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)


YouSendIt = food stamps .mac account

(\/)��k�� \�/�� (mookie wilson), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

is this jess's new blog?

wnk wnkngtn, Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

http://www.stereoscopy.com/henry/henry-resume.jpg

(\/)¤¤kíë \€/¤ñ (mookie wilson), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

sheeeit, i didn't know we were still operating under the belief that sharing musics via the interweb was ripping bands off. isn't that more of a napster era thing?

------yeah it's a few years gone ie. it's DONE, we've moved beyond! What is now is what is right! Heaven forfend anything change in the future, I'll be furious! Fuck I hate people. Shortsighted little fucks.

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

"sheeeit, i didn't know we were still operating under the belief that sharing musics via the interweb was ripping bands off. isn't that more of a napster era thing?"

Yeah you're right. Man I wonder why Discord even bothers producing CDs at all. I mean Napster proved that was pointless, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)


FUCK TEH RIAA and FUCK DISCHORD

ian mackaye is a money grubbing slumlord.
Suggestions why would especially be tight.

(\/)¤¤kíë \€/¤ñ (mookie wilson), Thursday, 15 September 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

awesome. I wasn't even trying to piss people off and yet, somehow, this little corner of the internet that I happen to be fond of for it's dialogue and sense of humor has proven to be hostile to me yet again. Look, I'm sorry I haven't been on ILM since day one, but please don't attack an idea (i.e. downloading albums, file-sharing, whatever) with me as your target. At the blog, I encourage buying the album. I love Dischord. Man, sometimes saying anything here feels like an exercise in feeling like shit.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 15 September 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

sorry if i'm taking things too seriously. i just wanted feedback and instead i got a reaming.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

I think, really, what Mickey was driving at is that while MP3 blogs are flouting copyright laws by posting single MP3s, posting entire albums is really just asking for trouble. So perhaps, just limit it to one song per album…

carson dial (carson dial), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)


eff that, post the entire Dischord discography (aka Dischorgraphy). Then link to where you can buy it.

seriously, we're just being dicks. in all earnestness, posting entire albums is a horrible idea. It is an affront to all the hard work of people at the label, and you'll look foolish asking people to buy a CD that they have just downloaded in toto and are loading up onto their iPod.

really though, from a selfish perspective, in order to gain readers you will need other mp3blogs to link to you. NO ONE will do that if you flout their paradigm so thoroughly.

so I would go one song. Is there a freeware tool where you can stream the entire album in the background while someone is reading your site? maybe that would be a happy medium?

(\/)¤¤kíë \€/¤ñ (mookie wilson), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

PS, in the instance of YouSendIt, there's also the very real possibility of vigilantism by rabid fans who don't think what you are doing is cool and rat you out to YSI / ruin the link / etc etc

(\/)¤¤kíë \€/¤ñ (mookie wilson), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

if you're gonna do full albums, do it with things that are actually hard to find. outta print shit and stuff.

Jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

chimi, the possibly imaginary freeware you speak of sounds awesome. and if it exists, it makes me wish i knew anything about programming/html/etc. thanks for the YSI tip, too. it's too bad this makes me look like a big faker, 'cause i'm actually an enormous fugazi fan, just bought almost their whole discography and wanted to get some opinions, but yeah, aside from looking like a tool in this sentence, i get your point. sidenote: would posting whole albums by really established artists be an affront to the hard work of the people at the label or do you consider that more of a concern with smaller label artists? RIAA considerations aside, of course. after all this, i think i'm definitely gonna switch to single-song format.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)


i'm sure you are a huge fugazi fan and your enthusiasm is great.

i don't know what the software was, check whatever technology is at www.jinners.com i bookmarked her site once because it has this interesting auto-jukebox thing on the site that plays music. could be irritating but really cool technology.

the "affront" is really to the smaller indies who can't/won't pay for the RIAA's protection. Posting major label albums would certainly result in an eventual ceast and desist, maybe worse?

there's inevitably going to be a blogger test case for music copyright infringement, and I'm sure you don't want it to be you.

(\/)¤¤kíë \€/¤ñ (mookie wilson), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

probably not. but i don't know: if he makes it, i hear that judge roberts is quite the gentleman.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Also, if you want to get some opinions, why not offer some of your own? Simply saying that you like the band and that a couple songs are good isn't really a blog, it's just a download site! Seriously, if your commentary is worse than the .nfo file from a music torrent, why the hell even make it a webpage? I figured when you said "post entire albums" that you were doing one track at a time and explaining what you like about each one, or some other navel-gazing that mp3 bloggers love.

Also, I see where people are going with the YSI angle, but I hardly ever revisit sites that offer no content and YSI. If there's a clever blurb and a steady download link I'll go back. If there's a lot of cool commentary and YSI, I will go but sporadically since I know the songs will disappear. No commentary and YSI? Not worth my time.

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

i guess i was afraid of getting into some stereotypical sort of navel-gazing, but mike, you seem to be saying that it's sort of endearing? also, and maybe this is covered somewhere else, but do you know where i can find places to host steady download links? and which is more important to you: words or music? also, cool commentary v. clever blurb.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

MP3 BLOGGERS: PLEASE STOP BEING SO SHIT. ALL OF YOU. THANKS.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, Dom. GET OFF THE INTERNET right back atcha!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

At least say SOMETHING! So far all I know is you like Dave Eggers (like pretty much every damn blogger ever) and are into uploading full albums for some unspecified reason, other than three of the songs are really awesome and so's the one at the end.

mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

new one torn, thanks mike. also, can i call lame on the way calling someone a blogger seems to erase every other part of their identity? or is that just me? "ilxor" just doesn't seem as reductive an epithet.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

there's inevitably going to be a blogger test case for music copyright infringement, and I'm sure you don't want it to be you.

-- (\/)¤¤kíë \€/¤ñ (chimichanga@christiancoalition.com) (webmail), September 15th, 2005. (mookie wilson)

I really don't see how this sort of hypothetical "blogger test case for music copyright infringement" will happen. It won't be a test case. I admit, I'm not a lawyer, but I do have some experience with copyright infringement law. From my limited experience, it seems pretty cut and dry. Pretty much every blog that posts copyrighted material without permission, be it one single song or one album, is eligible to be taken to court and charged with criminal copyright infringement, a felony. I don't see anything to be "tested" here. Thankfully, that hasn't happened yet. In my opinion, posting full albums is pushing closer to a trend that will eventually lead to blog infringement cases. That is why I say you shouldn't post entire albums.

Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

If you look at the history of criminal copyright infringement, the trends move a lot faster than the enforcement.

First the federal DOJ only targetted the scene and public webpages selling wares. Then they branched out to different things: BitTorrent, newsgroups, public IRC channels, etc.

Right now, mp3 blogs are still pretty small (yes, shocking). They do not yet look like PIRACY, but only "piracy." At one point, this is how PC software wares was. Look at archives of fairlight.org for example. Mp3 blogs are clearly a growing trend though, and I fear that they will slowly begin to resemble PIRACY more, such as posting full albums with little to no commentary. At that point, it seems less like what we think of as mp3 blogs now and resembles alt.warez.mp3 or whatever... but in blog format. Once that happens, it's only a matter of time before prosecutions happen. There's no question over the legality of the matter -- the only thing keeping mp3 blogs from being prosecuted now is perception.

Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

"This website was dedicated to memories of the old
Commodore 64 days in the 80's.

However, to avoid confusion, it has been taken down
for the time being."
-fairlight.org

are you sure that's what you meant?

ryannyc (ryannyc), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

ryannyc, maybe you can see it on archive.org or something. It is the page I want, but I didn't check to see that they took it down now.

My point is, computer software piracy was once seen as innocent as mp3 blogs appear today. When I was a lot younger, a newspaper in Chapel Hill published a list of BBS in the area. Some of them were for warez trading. That's how public it was. The groups who cracked games and software would give you a snail mail address to contact them at. That's how public it was.

My point is, the essence of software piracy hasn't changed at all. Cracking is cracking. The only difference is the perception of software piracy has changed.

Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 16 September 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

this is the equivalent of having someone tell you about "a really great book that just you have to read" and having it be Catcher in the Rye

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 September 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

xpost

On the other hand, given that record companies are actively recruiting blogs to write about their releases, it does seem that they don't care about them too much (and there's been a lot of press coverage about them in the past year, so it's not as if they're underground or anything).

Having said that, I stopped my MP3 blog last year after I got a threat from the BPI…

carson dial (carson dial), Friday, 16 September 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

xpost

You're absolutely correct. But don't be a snob. I wasn't pretending Fugazi was any big secret, and there is a reason people keep listening to them/reading "Catcher in the Rye". Some of us didn't get the chance to digest this stuff when we were 15. So we're catching up. Sue me.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 16 September 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Can you post the new Kanye West CD next?

I don't feel like buying it.

Sgt. Bilko, Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

it's pretty bad. you don't want it. booooring.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

this is the worst blog I've ever see

, Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)


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