The return of Ricky Martin

lol

gay

Ricky Martin: I Am a Fortunate Homosexual Man‎

congratulation ricky martin

"congratulation" = still funny.

This wasn't some sort of tranlsation error?

he actually just said "I am a lucky happy man," boy is his face red

lol this thread

fuck ricky martin and his irrelevance

No, no, no. He was at Red Lobster and ordered camarones. The waiter thought he said he was a maricon.

oh snap

fer real, sorta sucks that people only come out when their career is in the crapper, lame imo

that's not fair, clay aiken's off-broadway career is thriving

What next: Adam Lambert announces he's straight?

so many homophobic young women loved this twat in the late nineties.

I guess gay repubs caught with the meat in their mouth is the other category

guess "wide stance" guy was literally *in the crapper* when he came out to that undercover cop

also he's ugly

He has the kind of wholesome perma-gay looks that grandmas loves.

perma-gay?

http://aslcdn.celebuzz.com/images/2007/11/latin_grammys_110807_10-thumb.jpg

looks more like a faux hawk than a perm to me

wasn't talking about his hairstyle, dude

looks like a fuckin gay chipmunk

lots of nuts for the winter

i was kidding -- i still don't understand what perma-gay means though. like as opposed to temp-gay?

Good for him.

For the record, I never find it to be a bad thing when high-profile people come out of the closet.

No matter how washed up and irrelevant.

especially after the third or fourth failed US comeback.

it's not bad it's just funny

How is this thread like a South Street Seaport happy hour? The shots are cheap.

perma-Gay + grandmas just makes me think Liberace

i really just always thought he was a big mo. everyone did right?

duh of course!

I thought he was a happy hetero who fulfilled every hetero's livelong dream of retiring to an island with two adopted children and a male lover.

who told you our secret

I can read crotches.

I'm coming out of the closet. I'm not actually gay.

Or, at least, I'm not Ricky Martin.

she bangs, she bangs

Wife's favorite Menudo. Unfazed at this point, though.

man I don't know about you guys but I found his statement really moving especially the spanish-lanugage version with its all-caps moment at the end.

lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQsGiNHbAiY&feature=related

Yay!
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2 years pass...
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5 years in the life of Ricky Martin: Yay! lol gay

shouldn't it be "a magic bullet is gay"?

If you can prove its existence, sure.

oh yeah, Reese Witherspoon was married to Ryan Phillippe, so she is clearly following in Liza and Cher's fruit-fly footsteps.

gay bullets! what will the military industrial complex think of next??

Someone should probably open a gay bar called The Grassy Knoll

http://im.rediff.com/movies/2008/feb/14oslide2.jpg

she bangs, she bangs

A+

no

yeah that is not an A+ sorry

i hope you are all saying Ricky Mar-TEEN

i am! you're welcome

greatest thing about this thread is obv Daryl Hall's answer to the 'gay w/ Oates' question...

especially the way he tries to sound educated and sophisticated.

Menudo = Men U Do

Menudo = Men U Do

A+

Someone should probably open a gay bar called The Grassy Knoll

Sounds more like a lesbian bar.

Not sure Hall knew the definition of sex when he answered that question.

now we know that ricky martin was really just talking about his fabulous parties, or "she-bangs"

thank you

girl-fringes aka she-bangs

Somebody, quick, we need a medley: "She Bangs/She Bop"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFLLw7JcU74&feature=related

I've been thinking about the reactions to this and can I just say how bullshit the reactions along the lines of "Oh, he can do this now that he's not popular anymore" are? He's still hugely popular in Latin America and still maintains a sizable latino following in the U.S., but I guess he's not "relevent" anymore because white people stopped listening to him. Fuck that.

Ricky Martin was relevant...?

Ignore the point and go for the lulz.

Rev otm - "no longer charting in the US" kinda doesn't mean shit

According to Wikipedia he hasn't really released much new material since 2005 so I don't know that that particular line of attack is particularly relevant; don't compilations/live albums operate under a different set of expectations than studio albums? And also since 2006 he's appeared on 2 singles released by other people, one of which went to #1 in Italy and one of which was a Haiti relief single that apparently no one bought.

yeah but "new material" isn't really a yardstick - he sells out stadiums around the world, he's hardly washed up

from the wikipedia talk page:

Star Wars vandalism=

Someone has been playing with this page and is clearly putting Star Wars references in it. "Ricky Martin's father, Darth Vader, was a Sith Lord and his mother, Padme' Amadala, a Former Princess/Republic Council Member. His Mother Died When He Was Born, And His Father Turned To The Dark Side."

ha

Matos pointed me toward this:

http://www.racialicious.com/2010/03/31/why-ricky-matters-to-me-and-maybe-a-few-other-boys/#more-7154

Why Ricky Matters (to me.. and maybe a few other boys)

by Guest Contributor Lorenzo Herrera y Lozano, originally published at Hairspray & Fideo and Blabbeando

There’s been a lot of commotion regarding Ricky Martin’s recent coming out statement on his official website. As with most things in life these days, I learned about the news on Facebook. So, I immediately posted about the news as well and quickly joined in the jubilee of queerness and pranced about the office like a middle school-aged boy who accidentally touched hands with his classroom crush. I even committed the blasphemy of comparing the news to that of Health Care Reform and the release of Apple’s iPad (insert sound of angel choir here).

And then, of course, there was the storm of cattiness that followed the news. As a queer Xicano, I admit that sarcasm is built into my genetic code. The survivor of four Christian-themed religions and 500+ years of white supremacist occupation, I find humor, irony and disbelief in most things. Still, yesterday I just wanted to celebrate.

I agree that the fact that Ricky is gay is not all that shocking. Queer men and not long speculated or asserted that he shook his bon bon far too well to be straight. Plus, for us jotos/maricones/patos, there was the added benefit of dreaming him up queer, which somehow put us that much closer to his arms.

Still, as the catty remarks continue, as people boast about how they knew and think he should have done this 10 years ago, or sassy queens dismiss the news as inconsequential, I say, look beyond our borders (geographic, cultural, and age-based) and take a minute to honor the fact that for many, Ricky’s coming out is groundbreaking, perhaps even life-saving.

So Ricky was doing more than living la vida loca; he was, in fact, a loca. To the trained eye, this is just confirmation that our gaydar runs on more than hormones and dreams.

Hormones, dreams and cattiness aside, I challenge the ungleeful remarks about Ricky’s coming out.

As with most performers who began as Spanish-language artists, Ricky began over 10 years ago. The Barbara Walters interview (assuming it was Barbara, I can never tell who is behind that cloud of light) did have me on the edge of my teenage self, hoping he’d come out and proclaim his gayness, but it wasn’t his beginning. Ricky’s career began decades ago.

Long before the Latin Explosion, which was more of a Latin Spark, Ricky had left his imprint on the Spanish pop scene of the late 80’s and early to mid-90’s. Back when Thalía and Paulina were still artists and relevant, before Gloria Trevi’s traumatic (for her and her fans) imprisonment in Brazil, and before Alejandra Guzmán would be hospitalized for too much botox on her behind, there was a cultural movement in Latin America.

As a pre-teen growing up in a rural town of 300 in northern México, Thalía, Paulina, Gloria, Alejandra and Ricky were my window into another world. Their performances pushed, albeit at times gently and censured, the boundaries of repressive cultural norms. From flowers wrapped around a microphone to songs about teen pregnancy and abortion, these young performers were resisting and embodying another realm of cultural possibilities. Ricky gave boys the excuse (and perhaps reason) to shake our hips in ways that would otherwise be condemned as obscene.

The dismissal of Ricky’s coming out seems to be rooted in an U.S.-centric perspective where we have the opportunity to stop celebrating any queer image on TV and offer our critique. There is so much gayness these days that we can spend our days and dissertations balking at how a character isn’t gay enough, is too gay, is too white, etc. And although we don’t actually have the type of representation GLAAD and I would like to see, we have a whole lot more than we did in México in 1992 (except, of course, Ricky gently caressing his long hair on stage… oh, and Locomía).

I am not critiquing the fact that we spend so much time criticizing queer portrayals in the media. To the contrary, I am celebrating the fact that we can. In fact, I’d go further and ask why queer people of color media performance and productions are so superficial. Having once curating a queer people of color cultural arts program, I know we can do better.

What I am critiquing is that our criticisms of Ricky’s coming out has us falling into the pitfall of imagining and defining all things queer through a U.S. lens. I even joked about the fact that he used the term “homosexual” to define himself. And now, in retrospect I find that identifying as a “fortunate homosexual” was much more powerful than a simple “gay.”

Perhaps for the jaded queen living in urban U.S., the oversaturation of gayness in the media has deemed Ricky insignificant and worthy of our dismissal. For that frightened and confused 12 year old in rural Chihuahua, it’s monumental.

My coming out process was stumped by the fact that I could not even imagine my queerness, let alone live it. At the time, the saturation of gayness was mostly strictly white. It wasn’t until queer brown men like Jaime Cortez and Emanuel Xavier fearlessly (or perhaps fearfully) exposed their work and their bodies to the sun of public criticism, that I was able to imagine myself.

Whether U.S. fags approve or not, Ricky is a prominent figure here, and more importantly, in Latino América. Ricky’s coming out makes it possible for young boys in countless homes to imagine themselves as something other than confused.

For this, I say to Ricky: gracias. And, you know where to find me.

Reverend: White people also exist in Latin America you know? And do you really believe he's still hugely popular in Latin America!? Far as I know he stopped being popular in here even before he stopped being popular amongst the 'white people'. Only place you're likely to hear his ballads anymore is in hair saloons and maybe in receptionists and secretary radios. Of course he would still fill stadiums anywhere in Latin America no problem, but only very few in here would actually know if he has recorded anything in the past 8 or 9 years.

At least from my side it also looks like a publicity stunt. It had been years since I heard anyone talk about Ricky Martin in the media.

John already covered that. And not that your points are invalid, but aren't you from Spain?

And anyway, I admit I'm using "white" in the US-bred anglocentric sense. I'd say most Americans wouldn't regard anyone from Latin America as white, which obviously is at odds with how race is viewed in Latin America and even by many hispanics in the US. But that definition is more appropriate when talking about perceptions of race in los EEUU.

This conversation is interesting in that I just filled out my Census form.

I'm kinda pissed off that I'm getting counted as white. :/

Did someone force you to put your X next to Caucasian?

Everyone in the household is counted as the same as the head of household this time around.

huh?

wait seriously? that is weird

i filled it out for both of us, did not see that

yeah actually every person in the house has their own subsection where they can fill in whatever race they are

Oh, apparently I was misinformed. The household only gets counted as being of the face/ethnicity of the head of household, not the individuals in it. That makes more sense.

Still doesn't make sense.

I remember seeing race checkboxes next to "person 2," "person 3," and so on.

Right, those are for the individuals. For certain purposes they count households by race, in which case they are counted by head of household. The census worker who talked about this at a meeting I went to made it sound as if the individuals in a household were only counted by the race/ethnicity of the head of household, which may have just been misunderstanding on my part.

That makes somewhat more sense. My "person 2" was listed as a roommate, and could've been black, white, Puerto Rican, or anybody else justa freakin.

Ricky Martin couldn't elude 'gaydar'

By Rex W. Huppke

Tribune staff reporter

Latin pop star Ricky Martin's formal announcement this week that he is a "fortunate homosexual man" came as a surprise to few, and, in fact, provided a celebratory "I knew it!" moment for the sizable swath of humanity that revels in sexuality speculation.

There have, it seems, always been celebrities —or friends or co-workers, or aunts or uncles—that we know, in our heart of hearts, are gay or lesbian. They just refuse to admit it, fueling our curiosity with a stubbornness grounded in fear of being discriminated against or damaging an established career.

But research shows that people who remain in what's known as "the glass closet" are fooling only a small slice of the populace, and that human beings have a staggeringly good ability to judge which way a person swings.

"We've found that 'gaydar' has quite a bit, if not perfect, accuracy," said J. Michael Bailey, a Northwestern University psychology professor who has researched people's ability to guess other people's sexuality. "We've done studies where we've brought people into the lab, videotaped them describing the weather in Chicago, and then brought in other people to watch the video and judge them. And they're almost always right."

In a 2008 study, Bailey found that gay and straight people who viewed the videos correctly identified straight people 87 percent of the time and correctly identified homosexual people 75 percent of the time. The research, involving about 50 subjects and 50 raters, also found that gay and lesbian people don't have much of an advantage over straight people when it comes to guessing whether a person is gay or straight.

Many who judged Ricky Martin's sexuality certainly based their opinions on his behavior as a performer, as well as other mannerisms they would see in interviews. Bailey agreed that most of those perceptions are based on stereotypes of gay men.

"Stereotypes are often at least partly based in truth," Bailey said. "It reflects what we call gender non-conformity in gay and lesbian people. On average, gay men tend to be a bit feminine and lesbians a bit masculine. That's on average and not every case, of course. There are gay and lesbian interest patterns.

Certainly acting, dancing and singing are interests that are more common among gay men than straight men. Obviously not all actors and dancers who are male are gay, but there's a higher than average number of them that are."

In recent years, a number of celebrities long suspected of being gay have left the glass closet: Neil Patrick Harris and Lance Bass, as well as American Idol singer Clay Aiken. Harris and Bass cited intense Internet speculation about their sexuality as one of the reasons they decided to come out.

These revelations can only up the confidence Americans have in their gaydar, raising the stakes for others out there who have long been the subject of sexual-preference speculation. Tom Cruise. Richard Simmons. Anderson Cooper.

"People are just intrinsically interested in each other's private lives, including their sexuality," Bailey said. "Particularly when they feel someone might be hiding something."

There's also a far greater acceptance of homosexuality, both in Hollywood and in American culture in general. Which allows someone like Martin to leave the closet behind and state publicly: "I am very blessed to be who I am."

Wait.... Richard Simmons is not openly gay? Genuine shock!

i had "por arriba, por abajo" in my head today for some reason. damn you, ricky martin!

He is currently promoting a Greatest Hits

no, really

yeah that's why i was thinking of that song. the other day my mate made a facebook comment making fun of the idea he has a greatest hits and i replied "la copa de la vida, livin' la vida loca, she bangs, she bangs (remix)" but i knew i was missing another one that i knew. then in my head all day. "por arriba, por abajo, calientitos, bien pegados".

i liked his corny ballads. that cover of a hooters song.