are zeitkratzer really that good anyway???
they're not right?
and well, anyway, even if my cousin wasn't holding her engagement party that day, alvin lucier managed to book himself in for performing at the tate AT THE SAME TIME as Zeitkratzer...
so then it would be alvin lucier v. zeitkratzer...
so maybe I would rather be at my distant cousin's engagement party than having to choose between alvin lucier and zeitkratzer...
― noname#1 (noname#1), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)
I barely know her to be perfectly honest, but it started out that when i could (cos I didn't live in the UK the first year she was here) I'd try and see her, because I knew it was hard to come here from a completely different and farway place and you need support... and it's lucky that we got on/ i liked her
so I know i should be there today/tomorrow... but I'm so gutted that it has to be september 16th I was really looking forward to this zeitkratzer business... the last performance i caught in the serpentine... MIMEO two years ago was quite memorable... so i'm worried that this one will be too
and i have no one to give my ticket to...
― noname#1 (noname#1), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)
Compared to MIMEO this wasn't as memorable. First off, the bitterly cold weather: the pavillon is closed on top but open at the sides. During the perf ppl watching dropped off like flies. Secondly, the music did sound great on it but that wz another problem - the scheme for this piece was far too simplistic (I think it was written on the day 'as a response to the space' sorta thing) - a piece that started quiet and gradually got louder and louder until it was very loud. A really long tune. Having said all of that it was a thrill to get a look at long winded amplified instr concrete. you couldn't fault the convinction behind it.
The first 45 mins of that MIMEO perf were akin to 'improvised persepolis' at points. this was one for the lachenmann fans.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)
haha... this reminds me of a performance of a la monte young cello sonata I went to hear where lots of people dropped off, and one guy even started snoring quite loudly about halfway through... i got distracted at that point- too taken up with a strong desire to kick the poor man.
a piece that started quiet and gradually got louder and louder until it was very loud. A really long tune.
this was my intial (and major) grievance with godspeed you black emperor and other such bands, I coud never believe how every piece I heard them play started slowly and quietly and just got louder and faster... i found the predicatability infuriating... and still do actually... it just always seems to me to be such a simple response... I don't know though, I wasn't there...
(I think it was written on the day 'as a response to the space' sorta thing)
so kind of like MIMEO but it didn't quite hit the mark???
in fact, I can't even say specifically why I enjoyed the MIMEO event, it lasted about three hours too so it's not as though I could quantify the whole experience, and talk about the whole thing as being something wholly coherent because it's impossible for me to follow the thread that long and twelve different improvisers... and obviously you're not supposed to, they expect you to be wandering in and out and around and buying a drink and catching bits of it and missing others, it seemed to shift shapes so much that i can't quite put my finger on why i thought it worked, probably because of the constant shape-shifting as opposed to something that just goes from quiet to loud no matter how stealthily...
I still would've liked to witness it though, especially if their conviction, as you said 'couldn't be faulted'... that makes it worth going if only to see an experiment not live up whatever hypothesis they started out with...
― noname#1 (noname#1), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)
as to the structure I'd say it was the whole mogwai/godspeed stuff but I suspect the thing wz sketched out in one day.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 18 September 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)