Miss Kittin (a horrible rude bitch, allegedly)

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MISS KITTIN@THE NERVE CENTRE, DERRY, NORTHERN IRELAND.
We would rather be sitting at this stage reminiscing about a great night but
instead we feel compelled to set the record straight about the actions of Miss
Kittin at our event on Friday night past. After years of negotiations, we
finally secured a date for Miss Kittin to play at our clubnight. It was a night
we were really looking forward to enjoying ourselves but due to the actions of
Miss Kittin, we found this impossible. In all our time of promoting parties, we
feel we have never been treated so badly by a visiting artist.

The venue we had chosen to put Miss Kittin on was The Nerve Centre where we have
put on a variety of DJ’s and live acts including Laurent Garnier, Dave Clarke,
X-Press 2, Mylo, 2020 Soundsystem, Jon Carter, Layo & Bushwacka, Justin
Robertson, Slam, Paul Daley, Tom Middleton, Erol Alkan, Andrew Weatherall, Lee
Burridge, Mr C, David Holmes, DJ Format & MC Abdominal, Radioactive Man,
Fingathing, Silicone Soul, Umek, Craig Richards, James Zabiela, Billy Nasty,
Jazzanova, James Lavelle, Scratch Perverts, DJ Craze, The Psychonauts, Si Begg.
The Nerve Centre has also hosted some of the biggest names in rock music
including The Thrills, The Undertones, Ian Brown, The Zutons, Embrace, Gomez,
David Gray, Sinead O’Connor, The Doves.

Miss Kittin was picked up at Belfast Airport by taxi which transported her to
The Tower Hotel in Derry where we had booked her the most expensive suite as
well as an additional room for her manager. On meeting Miss Kittin and her
manager outside the hotel and welcoming them to our city, we were greeted by
Miss Kittin with ‘It’s fucking freezing’ - no hello, nothing.

On returning to the hotel to bring Miss Kittin and her manager to the club, we
advised Miss Kittin that the club was next door to the hotel so we would walk to
the club. After walking no more than 15 metres, Miss Kittin stopped dead in her
tracks and said ‘This is next door… where is the fucking club?’ We told Miss
Kittin that the club was just another 30 metres away round the corner.

We then took Miss Kittin to the boardroom of The Nerve Centre where we had a
large range of drinks, fruit and various snacks prepared for her. Initially
refusing a drink, Caroline then said ‘How am I meant to enjoy myself tonight.
It took me six fucking hours to get here and I’m fucking freezing. I could have
been in New York’. Prior to booking her extremely expensive flights, we had
suggested several alternative travel options to Miss Kittin that would have got
her to Derry quicker. We also warned her of the regular delays that take place
at Heathrow on Friday evenings. However there was no flexibility with Miss
Kittin regarding flights.

Miss Kittin eventually decided to have a bottle of water but complained that she
did not want the water if it was too cold as she was already ‘fucking freezing’.
We then brought Miss Kittin upstairs to the venue to commence her set. We pride
ourselves on providing everything artists ask for. The setup on stage was
perfect, as was asked for in the contract. Both our resident DJ’s tried to
introduce themselves to Miss Kittin but were greeted with a hateful ‘I don’t
understand you’. After starting her set, we are informed by her manager that
there was a problem. Basically, the problem was that Caroline was used to
playing in bigger venues in front of larger crowds. At this stage the venue was
only open an hour and there were nearly 300 people in the venue and there were
people still coming in to the club.

We are then informed that Miss Kittin will play for 1 hour only and that we
should have one of our DJ’s ready to take over. Informed by her manager that
there was no way of changing her mind, one of our residents took over from Miss
Kittin after she had played 75 minutes. At the end of the night, when paying her
fee to her manager, we asked what should we say to the clubbers who had came to
the club to hear Miss Kittin. He informed us that we should lie, ‘tell the
people she was sick or something as she has fans and she would not want to
disappoint her fans.’

These are the fans that she refused to acknowledge all night and basically
refused to play for. We have always found that truth is the best policy and we
are not going to change now and we don’t believe feigning illness for Miss
Kittin to keep her reputation intact as a good enough reason to change this
policy. Within the genres of music we promote, we find that the majority of
people that we invite to play are likeminded people, sociable and polite but
more importantly professional. In almost eight years of putting on parties, Miss
Kittin is the outstanding exception to this rule.

We have been lucky enough to host some of the world’s top DJ’s and producers
over the years who always retain a sense of honesty and humility. Derry may not
be as cosmopolitan as New York, Paris or Milan but you will be hard pushed to
find a more receptive or passionate crowd. Most visiting DJ’s comment on the
great reaction and warmth of the people. There is no excuse or valid reason for
Miss Kittin’s actions on Friday night. She was getting paid a lot of money to
play records for a couple of hours. All we wanted was for her to do her job

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Pretty bad isn't it? I would usually be suspicious of bad stories about DJs as people do gossip etc but there just seems to be no excuse for that kind of behaviour.

Would really put me off ever going to see her, not that I've ever been bothered with her as a DJ in any case.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

I hope they didn't pay her the full fee.

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

seriously, Miss Kitten. Who in their right minds actually takes her seriously? I have that free mix CD she did for some mag that people think is the dogs bollocks and i have a few of the discs she sang on (Hacker, Golden Boy + Felix) and she's nothing more than a deadpan german voice that has run it's course. you have to laugh at people taking her seriously in the first place and laugh even harder (LOL, even) at her taking herself seriously. she talks into a microphone and badly mixes records, that's the extent of her talent!

biz, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Whatever. That CD is pretty cool, and what sort of people should you "take seriously"?

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Can we call her Miss Twat?

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

No, you have to understand, for us French people, it iz awfully cold up zere...

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

miss fucktard

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Should we be shocked that the bitchy tone she takes on her records is not, in fact, a shtick?

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

*schtick*, that should be.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

xpost- Miss Kitten wouldn't be discussed here if she had tried to make it on her own. She's only known because of her work for the Hacker, Felix and Golden Boy. She was trendy (thus the praise for her free Mix CD)at one point but her schtick has run it's course. Who actually liked her studio album? Did she make the beats/do the production on her album? Can she do anything besides the deadpan German chick voice?

biz, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

does she even write her own songs?!?!

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I thought she did some programming and production on her later tracks.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Can she do anything besides the deadpan German chick voice?

She actually sang on The Vogue by Antonelli Electr., which predated her fame in my area:

http://www.discogs.com/release/24580

But yeah, I agree, she was a one trick pony. That trick may've been needed briefly a few years ago, but her lack of talents stick out like a sore thumb today.

Even if she is producing/writing/whatever on her own album(s), the music isn't moving to me and it just comes off as trendhopping.

PappaWheelie B.C., Friday, 16 September 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

i like the remixes of 'happy violentine.'

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Unprofessional distortion, that.

Who the hell do you THINK I am? I'm the goddamn Batman! (Barima), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Icon of the coke-sniffing hipster yuppie clubbers is a raving bitch? Shock and awe!

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm not allowed to say 'maybe it was her time of the month?' as that would be horrendously offensive and crude, so I'm not doing that.

I think her entire recording output to date is mostly fantastic.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

yeah the guys who put on that gig really sound like coke sniffing hipster yuppie clubbers don't they?

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I actually liked her studio album by the way.

Why on earth should she do all the producing herself, the producer/solo artist thing is as surely as valid a method as any other in music.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

This thread kind of makes me ill, reminding me somewhat of Jim Rome or some other sick moralist going off on the indiscretion of some black athlete or another, complete with name-calling (in this case, shockingly misogynist) and stereotyping. Throw your stones hypocrites. Or maybe it's just the coffee this morning making me ill. Whatever it is, I'm in a bad mood because my office is fucking cold. But at least I'm not in fucking Northern Ireland.

mooterhead, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

where is the name calling and stereotyping exactly?

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

apparently now anyone who criticises miss kittin (albeit by posting a seemingly true story with the caveat "allegedly) is doing so because she's a woman, and hence incapable of being a dickhead.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

If the story's true, the behaviour was pretty unacceptable and anybody who might want to go see Miss Kittin will be interested to hear it. As for the vitriol, I just turn it off as soon as we get to "she doesn't write her own songs" hilarity starts.

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Also, if you want to call people on misogyny and stereotyping, using the phrase "at least I'm not in fucking Northern Ireland" makes you look a bit of a hypocrite.

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

where is the name calling and stereotyping? Are you fucking serious Ronan?

mooterhead, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

complete with name-calling (in this case, shockingly misogynist)

Oh, please:

Club organizers book name-brand DJ.

Name-brand DJ acts like a spoiled child.

Name-brand DJ bails out and leaves club organizers hanging.

Club organizers call out name-brand DJ in a public forum, which appears to be their only recourse at this point.

Do you honestly believe that the posts would be different if it were, say, Armin Van Buuren that were behaving badly? No they fucking would not. An asshole is an asshole, regardless of gender.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Changed my mind after rereading the original post. You guys are right, she is a fucktard twat for coke sniffing yuppies.

mooterhead, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

That was too easy.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

...as Miss Kittin said after getting paid.

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

....zing!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

and off she cycled with her bag of onions.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

God, who here hasn't occasionally gone into work in a really foul mood, basically felt like your boss and your co-workers could fuck off, and then left early, feigning illness? Give the woman a break, it's a job to her and everyone's entitled to their shitty days. Until I hear she does this on a regular basis, I'm not going to hold someone's bitter-ass story against her.

fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

It's pretty terrible behavior regardless of gender. With all of the horrible things posted on ilm it seems funny that someone would get outraged over the way Miss Kittin was treated in this thread.

O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

yeah the guys who put on that gig really sound like coke sniffing hipster yuppie clubbers don't they?

Where'd that come from? I didn't mean that at all. They just seem like business people - not even in the equation. If they were also coke sniffing yuppies, they probably would have thought her behavior was fabulous or cute or something.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Give the woman a break, it's a job to her and everyone's entitled to their shitty days.

No, not when people have come to see her and paid money for the privilege. She really doesn't have any excuses here, considering she did actually turn up and didn't offer any explanation for her attitude.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

This thread kind of makes me ill, reminding me somewhat of Jim Rome or some other sick moralist going off on the indiscretion of some black athlete or another, complete with name-calling (in this case, shockingly misogynist) and stereotyping. Throw your stones hypocrites. Or maybe it's just the coffee this morning making me ill. Whatever it is, I'm in a bad mood because my office is fucking cold. But at least I'm not in fucking Northern Ireland.

OTM. Why should we even care? I guess the moral hit squad does, but I wasn't there, it's not my business.

O'so Krispie, it's because moralizing is damned annoying, and expecting everyone to 'chime in' on the basis of hearsay is damned annoying, and besides, it's just that - hearsay.

simian (dymaxia), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

i am she, miss kittin. music makes people com together. this promoter he tried to touch my bum in the lift. i am not happy with treatment that he does not tell you about.

kttn (andrewmorgan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Give the woman a break, it's a job to her and everyone's entitled to their shitty days.

Fuck that. She sounds like a prima donna that looks down her nose at her fans (as deluded and coked up as they may be, they don't deserve it). People that work for $12/hour have bad days, too. If they act like her, they risk getting fired.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

No, not when people have come to see her and paid money for the privilege. She really doesn't have any excuses here, considering she did actually turn up and didn't offer any explanation for her attitude.

Oh boo fucking hoo, my boss pays me money to come to work and I'm not always happy to do it. Show me one person who is. Shit happens, no one's perfect, everyone has a bad attitude from time to time. Even you.

fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Actually, nevermind. They do deserve it.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

TS: moralising vs. moralising about moralising

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Fuck that. She sounds like a prima donna that looks down her nose at her fans (as deluded and coked up as they may be, they don't deserve it).

Ugh, ONE incident does not a prima donna make. How about we all base our permanent judgements on YOU based on ONE of your low moments, eh?

fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

I guarantee my low moments wouldn't involve crying over the free bottled water (and I doubt it was Arrowhead) making me colder. What kind of pampered princess is she?

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Frank Sinatra wouldn't have behaved like that.

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

I guarantee my low moments wouldn't involve crying over the free bottled water (and I doubt it was Arrowhead) making me colder.

Maybe not, but being a smug little bitch on a message board judging people you don't personally know based on hearsay about ONE incident is pretty low.

fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Why should we even care? I guess the moral hit squad does, but I wasn't there, it's not my business.

And yet, you post on the thread.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Maybe not, but being a smug little bitch on a message board judging people you don't personally know based on hearsay about ONE incident is pretty low.

I better never see you piling on Bono in another thread. :)

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

haha "fitch" you prat! getting all hot & bothered & defensive about this!!

GR3BE, Friday, 16 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

I better never see you piling on Bono in another thread. :)

But Bono has a 25-year track record of being a pampered princess!

fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

As I have fans and would not want to disappoint my fans.
That part was invented by the manager from what I understand and it kind of sticks out.
-- blunt

Ah yes you're right about that bit.

If I were to nick her comments for a lyric, I wonder if she'd sue?

moley, Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

am I the only one expecting a much more heinous story? She was blunt, lazy, and bratty, I'm sure that describes a good many artists on any given day, she just got happened to get told on. I mean personally I think mean people suck and she obviously doesn't need the money so I'll stay home when she comes to L.A.(doesn't take much for me, I've got hundreds of boycotts going) but of all the bad gigs to get worked up about this has to rank pretty low.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah but most artists are spanners anyway

That's a great one to say in a Dublin accent.

moley, Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

jokes on her - new york has been unseasonably humid.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

who is the you you're referring to blunt? the people who put on the gig aren't on this thread!

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

ILM is like ping pong sometimes, I swear.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

i actually thought about posting this after reading it but didn't get round to it. having had involvement with her twice along with simon 803 (see above), we put her incredibly rude behaviour down to pmt the first time. the second time i decided there was no excuse and that she's just plain rude. end result, she'll never get asked back.

personally, i think there is NO excuse for acting like an asshole and ultimately she will reap what she sews. sure it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things but i think it's good that things like this leak out and hopefully impact on people's careers. there is a certain devilish german dj whose behaviour has been a zillion times worse than this who will probably get lynched if he ever sets foot in the city i live in again.

there is a london band whose career has been pretty much destroyed by the idiotic behaviour of their lead member. being an asshole is not rock n' roll, it's just being an asshole.

hopefully the power of the internet will help rid us of some of the unpleasant characters out there. i actually thought about posting this after reading it but didn't get round to it. having had involvement with her twice along with simon 803 (see above), we put her incredibly rude behaviour down to pmt the first time. the second time i decided there was no excuse and that she's just plain rude. end result, she'll never get asked back.

personally, i think there is NO excuse for acting like an asshole and ultimately she will reap what she sews. sure it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things but i think it's good that things like this leak out and hopefully impact on people's careers. there is a certain devilish german dj whose behaviour has been a zillion times worse than this who will probably get lynched if he ever sets foot in the city i live in again.

there is a london band whose career has been pretty much destroyed by the idiotic behaviour of their lead member. being an asshole is not rock n' roll, it's just being an asshole.

hopefully the power of the internet will help rid us of some of the unpleasant characters out there.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

there is a london band whose career has been pretty much destroyed by the idiotic behaviour of their lead member

When will Cheryl Baker LEARN?

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

there is something very odd looking about my previous post but i am too drunk to work out what.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

Are you so drunk that you're ... SEEING DOUBLE ???

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 17 September 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

that's the one!

stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 17 September 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

who is the you you're referring to blunt? the people who put on the gig aren't on this thread!
So true Ronan. I guess I was pre-Google-lurking my post or something.

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

"A certain devilish German DJ", eh? So Miss Kittin, DJ Hell and—why not—Peaches are not very nice people, eh? Whodathunkit? Electroclash brash, dog bites man, etc...

I think the club in question should invite Alejandra and Aeron instead. Sure, they'll DJ off an ironing board, and play the sound of an old man giving another old man a haircut for an hour, and only thirty people will come. But there will be 32 nice people in a room together.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 17 September 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

That will be the start of the rapture.

moley, Saturday, 17 September 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

Search around. Kittin's a bitch. From industry to fan there's enough people who agree. Some will never see her again, and some will never work for her again. When that many people are saying it... it's usually true. Just saw on some Electro-kid website the other day "fuck miss kittin". Forgot to bookmark it or I'd post it. But, spread the word... FUCK MISS KITTIN. She can stay home and torture herself to "RAAAADIO CARRROLINE" with Laurent Garnier and her mom. I'll stay at home and listen to something else- something less ironic maybe.

PS- Who would ever want to "touch" Miss Kittin's "bum". Gross.

Miss Cunttin, Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

my friend touched Miss Kittin and reported she was warm and soft.

Barnaby (Barnaby), Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

perhaps momus is correct, regarding Brutish behaviour

terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)


maybe we should hire someone to rape her.

simian (dymaxia), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

i agree with da ap (above postah)

ALSO: GIRLS DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THE MUSIC

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I think Moley's newly commissioned song for Miss Kittin was the best thing to come from this thread.

"It's fucking freezing"

"I could have been in New York"

donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Simian - fuck off.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

i hope some random logged-out person (who has nothing to do with stirmonster) can tell us more about hells behaviour

don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

"schtick" and "shtick" are both acceptable spellings.

moley's post is phenomenal.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

the strangest thing is that m.kittin's manager didn't ask for the PRE-payment and they were only paid AFTER the set.
the rest is quite understandable, and common.
as well as not paying the DJs if they didn't ask for pre-payment
as well as all other shit that happens in clubs where everyone is moody and tired and most probably an addict of some kind (which makes their psychics generally unstable).

nique (nique), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

I was half-serious about that crack re Miss Kittin going into character before a set. I've observed friends doing that on many occasions before gigs. They sort of become their stage persona. It can be a little freaky deaky.

moley, Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

Hello Clint Ruin!

donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

erm, I've never seen a DJ paid beforehand.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 18 September 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

girl sends satanic dj a demo cd. on the cover she puts some random porno esque photo from some magazine as she thinks it will fit in with the aesthetic of what his label is about. satanic dj gets in touch to say he loves the demo and wants to meet her when he is visiting london the next week to discuss releasing it. girl (who is very poor) pays for her own travel to london and meets satanic dj at a plush london hotel. satanic dj seems very taken aback when they meet (perhaps because she is not the girl in the photo) but is very charming and they spend the day together in london with him intimating that he is very keen to release her music on his international trendy label as it is one of the freshest things he has heard in ages.

in the late evening after girl has hung out with satanic dj while he attends various meetings and radio sessions he suggests they go back to his hotel to discuss the release. satanic dj goes into the bathroom and comes out in his dressing gown and tries to get 'friendly'. girl tells him she is married but he doesn't seem to care. situation gets very frightening resulting in her screaming 'no means no' and trying to get out the door which he is blocking. satanic dj starts screaming hysterically at her that he never had any intention of releasing her music and that in fact it is amateurish, unoriginal and boring and that she should get rid of her guitar and buy an 808 and a moog instead and make some 'proper' music. he then throws her out. girl is completely distraught, bewildered and angry with herself for being so naive.

girl later gets signed to another famous label. her forthcoming release for them doesn't feature a moog or an 808.

loggged out, Sunday, 18 September 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

oh well when we send our uber-big moscow dj stars over to play in russian cities we get at least some 70% payment, but more often 100%. well might as well be a unique russian tradition.
also, might be a russian tradition, but the 'bigger' the name, the more chance their manager will ask for the pre-payment.
but even with this scheme, i witnessed them promoters still getting away without paying all the money they owed.
but anyway what i'm trying to say that the clubland is over-nervous, over-paranoid and mentally unstable (late working hours, etc), that's why this 'kittin incident' is not uncommon. it happens every week, everywhere, if not with some kittin, then some doggy...

nique (nique), Sunday, 18 September 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

it doesn't though! I've never dealt with anyone rude, admittedly in a fairly short time doing gigs. But I am friends with people who are doing it years (10 or more years) and when we discussed this Miss Kittin story they too said there are few if any DJs they've ever found to be rude, and between the two or three people I know I'd say they've booked the majority of big house/techno DJs of the last 5-10 years.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 18 September 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

well i don't mean exactly the same thing. and i don't mean that anyone, no matter how 'big' they are, have the right to behave like this.
but it just happens, and nothing can be done. all kinds of things happen, i might write not a book maybe, but a paperback of the 'club life's shittest side' stories.

with miss kittin, though, apart that she was rude to someone (which is quite understandable, maybe she had her worst period, after all), the main thing is that she didn't play the time she was supposed to. the bigger name DJs sign contracts with the clubs, and unless they want stories like this be spread among the 'industry ppl' they try to fulfill all the conditions, no matter how moody they are.

as far as i can see from this story, they also had a contract with tech rider and so on. and the length of the set was most probably indicated there, as was the sum of payment.

rude as she might have been, this is not the main fault on her side. the main thing is not fulfilling the contract. and this is shit. it will not make everyone stop booking her for their events, but some ppl will definitely be warned...

nique (nique), Sunday, 18 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

"I could have been in New York"

a place where no one cares about this person.

cdwill, Monday, 19 September 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I nearly went to see her play in Park Slope back in April. It was a very mild night, in fact quite muggy. Maybe she got heckled by a load of Sinatra diehards (like Tracer Hand).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

Actually I think she played at Rothko. That would make more sense.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

Miss Kittin, just to keep being Miss Kittin, must do superhuman amounts of shit in brain-bending frequency to stay level or even awake - imagine the hardest you've ever gone, like an idiotic three-dayer with people you barely know and you start being mean because it's funny, then because it's not funny, and then you're not even being mean, you're just pouting because your body is pure shredded and you still think you have full, wet lips to qualify you as 'one of the hot ones from before, that place before, no no not that place, like two places before here..fuck, when Nina like kept talking about...fuck ' and it takes a week to feel okay again. Now imagine doing that constantly minus the breaks. Her EVERYTHING circulation right now must be at tapeworm speed, temperature-sensitive even to temperatures she is only imagining. An little errant boot tip against her shin is all-swamping like a saudering iron on ya nuttttttttz.

Cut her some slack!

LeCoq (LeCoq), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

y'all are really out for blood on this one! you really want it that bad, go for it. what a joke this whole dj scene is anyway. i could use some coke about now, however.

mooterhead, Monday, 19 September 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

ho, this thread.

the martinez bass in your face mix of kittin's 'grace' is BANGING. and her batbox album ain't bad at all either. that is all.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:34 (seventeen years ago)

to fill up the battery we empty all the minibar
no need for pay tv i have a better film noir

lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:35 (seventeen years ago)

Laurent Garnier, Dave Clarke,
X-Press 2, Mylo, 2020 Soundsystem, Jon Carter, Layo & Bushwacka, Justin
Robertson, Slam, Paul Daley, Tom Middleton, Erol Alkan, Andrew Weatherall, Lee
Burridge, Mr C, David Holmes, DJ Format & MC Abdominal, Radioactive Man,
Fingathing, Silicone Soul, Umek, Craig Richards, James Zabiela, Billy Nasty,
Jazzanova, James Lavelle, Scratch Perverts, DJ Craze, The Psychonauts, Si Begg.

^^^poll

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:36 (seventeen years ago)

DAFT PUNK TEACHERS POLL

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:57 (seventeen years ago)

Some outstanding captain save-a-ho hijinks on this thread.

jim, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 11:52 (seventeen years ago)

miss kittin is just awful. a total one-trick pony, only people who don't understand clubland/dancemusic (but desperately want to) buy into that stale sneery cokey act. im stunned she's still going!

there is a london band whose career has been pretty much destroyed by the idiotic behaviour of their lead member. being an asshole is not rock n' roll, it's just being an asshole.

who is/was this?!

s.rose, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:11 (seventeen years ago)

Take your pick

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:15 (seventeen years ago)

only people who don't understand clubland/dancemusic (but desperately want to)

Pipecock II: Electric Boogaloo

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

I may or may not "understand dance music" but I enjoyed this mix. The spoken bits do get a bit wearing though.

Neil S, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:41 (seventeen years ago)

Live At Sonar is pretty good as I recall and the bit on it where she goes "I beat I beat I beat I beat I can't say this forever" makes me forgive a lot of whatever her transgresisons are

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:58 (seventeen years ago)

She played in Seattle last month, and not once did she say it was fucking freezing.

Simmer 1 Tire Tread or Dead Crow for 15 minutes (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

Wet though? Terrible wet, so it is!

Neil S, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

i desperately want to understand clubbing!!!

s1ocki, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41428000/jpg/_41428313_kay_203bodyap.jpg

jim, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 18:01 (seventeen years ago)


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