convince me it's okay to listen to Dresden Dolls

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A friend of mine put that song of theirs, "Coin-operated Boy", on a mix for me and I absolutely love it. But, upon investigating the group I discovered they were on Roadrunner Records. I don't know if i can get past that. Just look at the mess that label has going on:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/artists/

How can I justify listening to Dresden Dolls, other than them just being good. I need more than that, since I can just learn to like any music, anyway. I need to know they have some kind of cred in making nice, honest music, or something, or hipster cred. I don't know.

andy dale, Saturday, 17 September 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

They're rapidly becoming the new Flogging Molly, but the songs are good enough, especially Coin-Operated Boy and Girl Anachronism.

WillS, Saturday, 17 September 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

"the new Flogging Molly"?

donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

:-~

donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

Flogging Molly sounds like a potential name for their next album.

I have tired to like them but I can't let myself. Theres something a bit too contrived sounding about their music, however I know the girl who takes a lot of their photos and she says that they are incredibly nice people to work with.

Bombed Out and Depleted / Kate (papa november), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0428,clover,55004,22.html

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

dude i see what you're saying but it is fucking CRUEL comparing ANYONE to flogging fucking molly. thats something you don't use lightly as a criticism. it's like calling someone hitler. seriously,

anyway, the dresden dolls are ok. they're entertaining live. the album's ok, though the best songs happen to be the ones everyone likes, "girl anachronism" and "coin operated boy". fun fact: i stood in line with my friend ellison to get our NIN/Dresden Dolls tickets signed by them after the show (woo hoo i know), largely because my friend ellison has a massive crush on the pianist/singer Amanda. he was all like, "dude, she totally caressed my hand" as she was interrupted for a second. hes going with his girlfriend to boston and see them live next month. lol. watch out Amanda! they did seem nice.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)

i totally heart the jeep song most of all. the two "best" songs are great the first time but start to grate eventually.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

They're very popular with goths. Make of that what you will.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

x-post

oh yeah the jeep song! my aforementioned friend and his girlfriend love that song because it totally reminds them of their exes too!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)

they're perfect for each other, they really are. i prolly sound like i'm mocking my friend but i'm not. he pisses me off a lot but oh, well that's what friends are for.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

ANYWAY...

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

Look into my eyes: "IT'S OK TO LIKE THE DRESDEN DOLLS . ."

The music IS extremely contrived and theatrical, and I find that refreshing at this point. Hipster cred? I hope not. Want another bunch of guys in in ironic t-shirts and wooly hats who just show up and sort of like, play their shit, y'know? Nothing for you here, I'm afraid.

Soukesian, Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Some of their songs are decent, but whenever I listen to them, I feel like I'm spying on the life of a 15-year-old girl who's way into her high school's drama department.

Jeff Reguilon (Talent Explosion), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

What's wrong with Roadrunner Records (besides Nickelback)?--Nightwish, Opeth, 3 Inches of Blood, come on.

adam (adam), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

best thing i saw at glasto 2005, no joke. they're ace. what's the issue? their labelmates? sheesh, some people are mui picky!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

They are an astonishing live act: the songs stand up and the spare keyboard/drums line-up gives them nowhere to hide.

Soukesian, Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

"fun fact: i stood in line with my friend ellison to get our NIN/Dresden Dolls tickets signed by them after the show (woo hoo i know), largely because my friend ellison has a massive crush on the pianist/singer Amanda. he was all like, "dude, she totally caressed my hand" as she was interrupted for a second. hes going with his girlfriend to boston and see them live next month. lol. watch out Amanda"

JUST POINTING OUT THAT THIS IS NOT ME.

Plz carry on ...

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Why do you need to justify liking something you like? That's silly.

Dresden Dolls = very very good live.

dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

"JUST POINTING OUT THAT THIS IS NOT ME."

robble!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Eh, just listen to Angizia instead.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

How can I justify listening to Dresden Dolls, other than them just being good. I need more than that, since I can just learn to like any music, anyway. I need to know they have some kind of cred in making nice, honest music, or something, or hipster cred.

I do not understand this concept of a band making good music not being enough to make you listen to them. And with all this take of honesty and cred, I think I see the real agenda here. SIR, I accuse you of ROCKISM.

DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

They weren't on Roadrunner originally, I don't think that should mean anything. The album is great.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Oh DV, you had to do it, eh?

http://www.warphead.com/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/album02/can_o_worms.jpg

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Hm. Other than being good?

They ROCK. And know other ways to be loud & confrontational than auto-piloting all instruments to four-minutes-of-tedious-pummelling.

Are just self-aware enough re: some of the goth cliches in the subject matter & lyrics, to escape the often off-putting ridiculously overdone sincerity in such high & heavy doses of angst (why I can't bring myself to listen to NIN much). Killer, and blackly funny humour, with a splash of toungue-in-cheek about it.

They are contrived and theatrical in a good way. Almost the exact opposite of say the Arcade Fire, to pick a current example.

I think they work on levels that appeal completely to both the stereotypical 15yr-old goth AND older, more cynical, less 'emo', less easily bullshitted fans.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

saw 'em opening for NIN, didnt much care for it.. all abit too dramatic, but if you like it buddy, relax, go to it.

astroblaster (astroblaster), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

I think there's some missing of the point with them that it's supposed to be dramatic & cabaret-esque. Even if some people seem to find the stage show an unneccesary distraction, haven't seen them live myself.

I'd certainly say it's an aquired taste though.

I think the odd thing with them is that the 'distance' in the way they present their music is what I find, more engaging than if they were to be direct and straightforwardly pained (NIN, emo, goth, etcetera).

Putting on a brave face (humour, theatrics) when singing about some really fucked up situations, draws you in to considering the reality beneath the 'front', about some of the possible pain that could have inspired the songs. And for me that's easier to empathise with, more 'real'(istic) than just putting it all out there. More adult?.

I guess it's why 'Hurt' from Johhny Cash is so much more affecting that the original too.

This isn't meant to be a NIN-bashing post (I've actually only ever heard the first album & singles since that) just thinking aloud really...

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

good points fandango

astroblaster (astroblaster), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

yeah, fandango OTM. it's a definitely different, though somewhat compatible, energy than NIN. NIN is very 'male' (not 'macho' though, just male). the dresden dolls approach is certainly more sophisticated in that sense.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

fandango very much OTM, particularly

"I think they work on levels that appeal completely to both the stereotypical 15yr-old goth AND older, more cynical, less 'emo', less easily bullshitted fans."

That describes the audience to a T. At a recent Edinburgh show there was a small group of folks who must have been in their 60s. Admittedly, the gig was part of the wider Fringe arts festival, but it's quite an acheivement to reach out to such diverse audience.

Soukesian, Sunday, 18 September 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

Actually Dresden Dolls was one of the big surprise for me at this year's fuji rock. They played at around 12.30 and i was just there by accident. They totally got the crowd going, though almost no one had heard of them before.
their live performance is a bit cabaret White Stripes. I talked to Amanda later who speaks really good French. She was REALLY nice and apologized for singing Jacques Brel's Amsterdam in English (she explained that she sings it in English so that everyone can get the lyrics - though in Japan it doesnt make much of a difference).
I got their cd afterwards but never really got into it though

Arnault (arc73hk), Sunday, 18 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

saw 'em opening for NIN, didnt much care for it.. all abit too dramatic, but if you like it buddy, relax, go to it.

if you go to the Dresden Dolls' flash-heavy website, you will see some chortlesome comments they received from NIN fans after opening for them. They are of the "FUCK YOPU CNUTY UR TEH GAYEST BAND EVER THERE IS NO WAY TRENT PICKED YOU FOR TEH TOUR BECOS UR TEH SUCK" variety.

anyway... I saw Dresden Dolls at Glastonbury this year, because someone recommended them to me. I thought they were interesting and theatrical. I subsequently bought their album, but I think they are best appreciated live.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 18 September 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

I agree, they're a great live band but not yet a fully formed studio entity (which they might never become). All my respect for Martin Bisi aside, the album doesn't really work. I listen to "A Is For Accident" (a collection of their shitty live recordings) instead.

I must also cofess I'm a little scared of Amanda's genius for unceasing, hard-nosed, no-trick-too-cheap self-promotion (being in the same room with her is what I'd imagine being in a room with Madonna circa 1982 was like) because it threatens to overshadow her actual talent.

L. Liew Tcherb (joseph cotten), Sunday, 18 September 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

A friend of mine, who's quite pally with Amanda Palmer, has informed me that the video for her single "Leeds United" (which she attended the shoot of) contains gay men snogging in Leeds United FC shirts.

This is probably the greatest thing I've ever heard.

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

off to see her on 10 oct in the london. i do so hope there'll be gay footy snoggage there! she'll have to go some way to out-gay the hidden cameras' "upside-down bicycling spangly hot-panted gimps on an altar" schrick though...

CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

I had the great fortune to tour in support of DD earlier this year. They are the nicest rock stars I've ever met. I don't listen to the records, but I was transfixed by their epic show every night. And they brought me back out during the encore to play drums in The Immigrant Song a few times which was a FUCKING BLAST.

Total respect for them working so hard for the success they've earned. Glad they decided not to break up.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

how is Amanda's solo album?

akm, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:44 (seventeen years ago)


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