I finally have one.. the Earth/KK Null split CD. (I was at the "first track", which was live Earth at the Crocodile Cafe in Seattle on Feb 22nd, 2003.. they played in between Comets In Fire and Kinski.)
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:30 (twenty years ago)
― biz, Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)
I was also at the first GN'R show following the St. Louis riot (in Dallas), and was present at the First Ave Pavement show featured in Slow Century.
I also saw Bill Clinton declare his candidacy for president in 1991.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)
also one of the two nights filmed for Dav3 McCormack & the P0lar0ids live DVD. I can, cringeworthily-enough, be seen brushing hair off my face between most of the songs.
― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)
― snowballing (snowballing), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, Pelt, Empty Bell Ringing in the Sky -- which was recorded at Terrastock II, and therefore, donut, you were there, so you've been available all this time without knowing it. Silly boy. ;-) O'so Krispie, Elvis Telecom, Orbit and others were also there at that set.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Saturday, 17 September 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Saturday, 17 September 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)
*hangs head in shame*
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 17 September 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 17 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 17 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)
― +, Saturday, 17 September 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)
I guess Pixies at Alexandra Palace a couple of weeks ago counts although I'm not going to buy it.
I think there's a Foo Fighters song from Reading '95 on one of their singles.
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― buyabiznatch (buyabiznatch), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
Joy Div - Preston WarehouseWow.
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
Do those Pearl Jam show discs count?
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
Also, Frank Zappa, "In-a-Gadda-Stravinsky," Guitar (Memphis, 4 December 1984)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
― nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)
Peter Brötzmann/some other sax player/William Parker/Rashid Bakr - the Cooler, 1997, released recently as The Cooler Suite on Grob.
GG Allin - Space At Chase, 1992. You can see me and a friend of mine in the movie Hated.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
You were the dude who threw the Birkenstock, ADMIT IT. (Which you presumably stole from someone next to you who was being a bother.)
I wanted to be at that show, especially since the Pixies were opening. What the hell was wrong with me to miss that?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)
― sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)
And...this.....
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000AS9OAO.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
...recorded at the 25th Anniversary shows this past February that I was lucky enough to attend.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
Rezillos - Mission Accoplished but the beat goes on.
some of Gary Numans - 79,80 and 81 Living Ornaments (sorry)
PTV Live in Glasgow (bit of a swizz, they released most of their shows)
― samdy blair, Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)
― mike a, Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)
― Randy Reiss (undeadsinatra), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)
― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
Two different Marilyn Crispell performances (duo with Tim Berne, then trio featuring Peter Brotzmann and Hamid Drake) recorded consecutively on 25/6/92 at the Du Maurier Downtown Jazz Festival, Toronto.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 18 September 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)
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(stares at pc screen for a whole minute in disbelief)
― pisces, Sunday, 18 September 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)
― esque, Sunday, 18 September 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)
― elgolfo (elgolfo), Sunday, 18 September 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)
― ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Sunday, 18 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)
― ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Sunday, 18 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)
Afghan Whigs, "Live at Howlin' Wolf, New Orleans"
― j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 18 September 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)
― nique (nique), Sunday, 18 September 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)
― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Sunday, 18 September 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 18 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 September 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf300/f344/f34417ffor2.jpg
and I was working at WHPK in Chicago when Railroad Jerk recorded the cover of "Why Don't We Do it in the Road" released here:
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf500/f530/f53073thctt.jpg
and I was at the Noah Howard "comeback" performance (and it *was* great) in Oak Park here: (went with the the current squeeze of stencil's guy the Wildman)
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf600/f648/f64821arnrp.jpg
was there for this Anderson/Kowald/Drake scorcher at the Velvet:
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre300/e382/e382847q0c9.jpg
as well as a bunch of other local Chicago jazzers' live cds, New Horizons Ensemble, Hamid Drake/MAts Gustaffson duo (a limited edition on Okka; recorded the day Don Cherry passed), etc/
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 19 September 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)
whoa, i haven't talked to him in a while, he's got a girl? awesome!
i think i was at that anderson/kowald/drake thing too. probably a buncha other chicago jazz shows.
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 September 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Monday, 19 September 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Monday, 19 September 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 19 September 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)
Peter Hammill, There Goes The Daylight (London, 1993)Current 93, Hitler As Kalki (London, 1992):zoviet*france:, What Is Not True (Nottingham, 1993)
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Saturday, 24 August 2019 12:49 (six years ago)
Playn Jayn Friday 13th Live I'm also in a photo on the back cover.Swans Public Castration Is A Good Idea, Feel Good Nowthe Heaven gig that is now sold as part of the expanded Filth set
Big Black Pigpile
HUsker du Camden Palace set which has been released under several titles
Einsturzende Neubauten Dublin 2004Mark Eitzel Songs of Love LiveSonic Youth Walls Have Ears
― Stevolende, Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:01 (six years ago)
Rush - Different Stages, specifically "2112", at Great Woods, Mansfield, MA.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:05 (six years ago)
E.L.O. - Zoom Live video
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:07 (six years ago)
Also if it wasn't specifically for sale I got to several of the early Snub TV gigs including Fugazi and Beatnigs which were both the Dome Tufnell park. They were broadcast, not sure if they were sold at all. just seeing that the main director Peter Fowler was saying a couple of years ago that he was compiling an archive of what he filmed.& further thinking about that he was filming for something a year or 2 before Snub was launched.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:28 (six years ago)
I was at a thing Snub filmed at The Albany (Gt. Portland Street). It was The Edsel Auctioneer & Silverfish with commpere Ted Chippington!
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:31 (six years ago)
Big Black PigpileMark Eitzel Songs of Love Live
Faust @ The Garage 1/12/96 (Nobody Knows If It Ever Happened DVD)
Me too!
Also:Venom – The 7th Date Of Hell - Live At Hammersmith 1984 (VHS) which I seem to have mentioned upthread alreadySun Ra And The Year 2000 Myth Science Arkestra – Live London 1990Sun Ra And The Year 2000 Myth Science Arkestra – Live At The Hackney EmpireMIMEO – Lifting Concrete Lightly
and probably any number of micro-pressing avant/experimental recordings. Probably some Merzbow too but I'm fucked if I'm figuring out what.
― michael schenker group is no laughing matter (Matt #2), Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:33 (six years ago)
Till Fellner, Kent Nagano and the Montreal Symphony Orchestra playing Beethoven’s 5th Piano Concerto.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:33 (six years ago)
Pretty much every Fugazi show is for sale isn't it? xp
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:33 (six years ago)
Boston Arms 1988
https://www.dischord.com/fugazi_live_series/london-england-120588
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:41 (six years ago)
i have only seen one thomas dolby gig.very kindly he decided to release it on cd :
https://www.discogs.com/Thomas-Dolby-The-Sole-Inhabitant/master/222816
― mark e, Saturday, 24 August 2019 14:25 (six years ago)
God there’s been a fair few lately; a coupla shots of me in various recent rock docs. Shane Meadows’ Stone Roses doc (Warrington comeback show etc), Blur’s Hyde Park live DVD (I’m visibly refreshed in the clips) and some in the Oasis ’Suoersonic’ doc from Glastonbury ‘95 where I look like a part-time goth that’s slept in a hedge. Typically I’m not in the Suede film despite seeing them a million times at their peak. Julian Temple’s Glastonbury film seemed to show every band I saw there in the preceding 10 years.
― piscesx, Saturday, 24 August 2019 14:25 (six years ago)
... me too.
Recorded on 4 May 2000 at the free radiCCAls Festival, for CCA, at the McLellan Galleries, Glasgow, Scotland; festival curated by Evan Parker.
https://matchlessrecordings.com/music/tunes-without-measure-or-end
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 August 2019 14:37 (six years ago)
- Derek Bailey & Tony Oxley - Soho Suites. I was at the 1995 Knitting Factory show (which is also on youtube).- Bill Dixon - 17 Musicians In Search Of A Sound: Darfur. Saw the (monumental) Vision Festival performance this recording is from.- The live disc on the reissue of Sugar’s Copper Blue, but only for the first three or four songs. I’d mainly gone to see Scrawl, who were amazing, and left early in Sugar’s set out of disappointment.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 August 2019 14:58 (six years ago)
13 years ago I forgot to mention the Sun City Girls show that was released as "Severed Finger With A Wedding Ring" and part of "Flute And Mask"
― sleeve, Saturday, 24 August 2019 15:10 (six years ago)
Nirvana - 'Live and Loud' at Pier 48 in Seattle (which is getting a vinyl treatment shortly). I skipped school to be there early. Nirvana lore says that Kurt was happy to play and that it was an amazing performance. To my 15 year old self, it wasn't great. He mocked the crowd and seemed pretty distant. It was an MTV event so there were cameras all around. Honestly, I don't remember much about the show but did see their last Seattle show in March of '04 and it was amazing. Much more relaxed, more inclusive set list, better venue.
― Yelploaf, Saturday, 24 August 2019 18:34 (six years ago)
'94 not '04. I missed that one.
― Yelploaf, Saturday, 24 August 2019 18:35 (six years ago)
Turned out to be quite a number of releases on Disques VICTO from the two FIMAVs I went to.
2003: Barre Phillips / Joëlle Léandre / William Parker / Tetsu Saitoh - After You GoneJAAP BLONK / KOICHI MAKIGAMI / PAUL DUTTON / PHIL MINTON / DAVID MOSS - Five Men SingingEVAN PARKER TRIO & PETER BRÖTZMANN TRIO - The Bishop's MoveKAZUE SAWAI / MICHEL DONEDA / KAZUO IMAI / LÊ QUAN NINH / TETSU SAITOH - Une chance pour l’ombre
2005:ANTHONY BRAXTON SEXTET - (Victoriaville) 2005WOLF EYES & ANTHONY BRAXTON - Black VomitANTHONY BRAXTON & FRED FRITH - Duo (Victoriaville) 2005WILLIAM PARKER & THE LITTLE HUEY CREATIVE MUSIC ORCHESTRA - For Percy HeathTHE NO-NECK BLUES BAND - Nine For VICTOR
If anything was released from those 2 festivals on any other labels, add that.
Also: Big Star - Live in Memphis (from Oct 29, 1994)
and Zappa's "In-a-Gadda Stravinsky" from Memphis 12/4/84 mentioned upthread
― The Chronicles of Ermagerd (WmC), Saturday, 24 August 2019 18:53 (six years ago)
Well, in 1970 I was too young to be inside the stadium, but my friends and I hung out on the grass outside and listened to Janis Joplin, the Band and Ian and Sylvia at the Calgary stop of Festival Express depicted in the documentary. But in May 1975 I was living in London, UK and went to the Led Zeppelin shows at Earl's Court that are on How The West Was Won.
― Ρεμπετολογια, Saturday, 24 August 2019 19:18 (six years ago)
This doesn't exactly count, but in the Borbetomagus documentary A Pollock of Sound, there's a photo of me in the audience at one of their Tonic performances (it was the night they opened for Merzbow and caused one of the stage monitors to burst into flames).
Also, I was at Sonny Rollins' 80th birthday concert, where Ornette Coleman joined him onstage (with Roy Haynes on drums) and they played "Sonnymoon for Two" together for like 20 minutes. It's on Road Shows, Vol. 2.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 24 August 2019 19:40 (six years ago)
When is Shakeymo going to own up for the Sonic Youth live B-sides of the "Dirty Boots" cd-single?... The show was a late 1990 one at UC Irvine’s Crawford Hall
Documented elsewhere but yes, and this was my first show ever. You can hear my friends yelling “fuck her!” after Thurston asks “what do you do when your mom is a skinhead?”
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 August 2019 19:47 (six years ago)
https://www.discogs.com/Alec-Empire-vs-Merzbow-Live-CBGBs-NYC-1998/master/982926
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 24 August 2019 20:00 (six years ago)
Nearest I have to this is MTV Europe filming and airing a 1999 Glasgow show the beastie boys played "in the round" that I attended
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 24 August 2019 20:58 (six years ago)
Forgot this one last time: X live at The Basement in Sydney 2002
a 10th anniversary gig by m/l everyone on the Elefant Traks label, at a venue then-named The Forum, 2008
Orbital at the same venue in 2010, half of which was a bonus disc on the reunion album Wonky
Carter USM's first reunion gig at Glasgow Barrowlands in 2007, also attended by various other ilx0rs
Little Boots at Heaven in 2013, attended with ilx0r edwardo
not on Discogs: iirc Adelaide's Avant Gardeners released a DVD of their set at The Jade Monkey on 26/3/2005
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 24 August 2019 21:13 (six years ago)
I was at the show that Joni Mitchell released as Shadows and Light
― banjoboy, Sunday, 25 August 2019 23:39 (six years ago)
I just remembered the Madonna concert I saw was filmed for Truth Or Dare.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 26 August 2019 00:17 (six years ago)
The Fall - live section of "Ibis Afro Man" on Are You Are Missing Winner (London, Mean Fiddler, 2001)
This is poignant for me since it's the only time I ever saw my favorite band (despite not actually enjoying the show).
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 26 August 2019 02:10 (six years ago)
I was at the early 90s Sydney shows that were filmed for U2's Zoo TV-era live VHS and Madonna's Girlie Show concert video.
I'm sure there are some more credible examples which have temporarily slipped my mind.
― umsworth (emsworth), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 10:14 (six years ago)
Coil @ ATP 2004
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 12:22 (six years ago)
I stuck a D90 tape in the mixing desk at the Whipping Boy's Pod gig at the time of Heartworm. Got a good recording that I played bits of on my radio show. Gave a copy of the tape, or was it the tape to copy to Myles McDonnell the bassist and i think they overdubbed bits of it and put it out as singles b-sides.Unfortunately had to move out of a place back in 2005 in a bit of a hurry. Was clearing up the final bits before leaving the key in the door. I found the tape and thought I had it then dozed off and then left in a hurry leaving the tape behind. Real shame since it was a great recording and i thought I had a dubbed copy I'd made for myself which I've never been able to find again.
Pod was a venue down near The O'Connell Bridge/Quays in Dublin and was connected to one of the universities.
F*** it deeply.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 12:56 (six years ago)
I just found a copy of this... I was there!
https://www.discogs.com/Happy-Flowers-20-Anniversary-Show-Live-In-Charlottesville-Virginia-Feb-28-2004/release/5923880
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:28 (six years ago)
shakey have you seen that they finally released that whole show? ORANGE COUNTY SHREDS. https://www.nugs.net/live-download-of-sonic-youth-crawford-hall-irvine-ca-11-03-1990-mp3-flac-or-online-music-streaming/21133.html?cgid=ARTIST-1137
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:45 (six years ago)
anyway, the best I can do for this thread is this GBV video, which I think was for sale on VHS back in the day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnyEJ36rmDc
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:46 (six years ago)
Thought I had posted in this thread previously, guess not. Husker Du Land Speed Record.
― confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 16:52 (six years ago)
shakey have you seen that they finally released that whole show? ORANGE COUNTY SHREDS.
oh wow
That I Wanna Be Your Dog all-star jam finale was ridiculous, the Mudhoney guys came back onstage for that and was v chaotic, clear memory of one of the guitarists pants falling down as well
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 16:58 (six years ago)
definitely worth the download — and yeah the i wanna be your dog is off the chain. oh and lol just remembered that i was at this SY show eight years later: https://www.nugs.net/live-download-of-sonic-youth-veterans-wadsworth-theater-los-angeles-ca-05-28-1998-mp3-flac-or-online-music-streaming/21132.html?cgid=ARTIST-1137#start=1
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 17:09 (six years ago)
Husker Du Land Speed Record.
:O
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:03 (six years ago)
I can't be arsed to find where I posted this originally, but yeah. I wasn't ever a big fan really, just saw them rather often because they were something to Du. They had just come back from a west coast tour, and they were even more ferociously loud and fast than previous. The record can't even begin to capture it, it sounds like angry bees in a tin can to me.
― confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:16 (six years ago)
yeah, there are soundboard recordings of some of those west coast shows and they are amazing
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:34 (six years ago)
The first time I ever snuck into a gig underage (1991) was turned into a live album, Ed Kuepper playing Saints songs in Ragged Glory style as The Aints - released as a pretty good & raw LP called SLSQ (which stood for Super Low Sound Quality).
― umsworth (emsworth), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 23:57 (six years ago)
oh and was a delighted attendee at this lovely terry riley piano performance and lecture. i'd gone along to see a performance of in c and mooched along to this as well, which i thought was just going to be a boring talk.
― umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 00:42 (six years ago)
I was there for the second of the two nights this was pulled from: https://www.discogs.com/Modest-Mouse-Baron-Von-Bullshit-Rides-Again/release/702066. Don't think I've ever listened to it -- didn't even it realize it was from those shows until years later.
And a few tracks from the first Sparks show I ever went to ended up on the Dick Around single, so that's a great memento of an amazing performance: https://www.discogs.com/Sparks-Dick-Around/master/87051
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 01:19 (six years ago)
Whoa, I was at that Sonic Youth show at Crawford Hall at UCI too!
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 29 August 2019 07:17 (six years ago)
lol waht
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:06 (six years ago)
we could've taken sides on the Spacemen 3/Mudhoney beef
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:07 (six years ago)
Ha! I was an undergrad at UCI then - no way I was going to miss this show. As far as I knew at the time, I had the only car in OC with a Spacemen 3 sticker on the back window.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 09:41 (six years ago)
I can think of two:
Twelfth Night, live at the Target - side one only, we went off somewhere else while they turned the cassette over in the recording machine.
Oasis - Familiar To Millions - They were going to release the second gig but Liam got stoney drunk and went all wahayyy so they reverted to the night before's recording, and that's the one we were underneath the Wembley Twin Towers for.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 10:05 (six years ago)
Live'r Than God - Thee HypnoticsPublic Castration is a Good Idea - SwansRoyal Albert Hall October 10 1997 - SpiritualizedQuintet (London) 2004 - Anthony BraxtonPrayer Rug Exorcism - HototogisuDas Zerstoren, Zum Gebaren - The New Blockaders
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 10:41 (six years ago)
I attended It's All In Your Head FM v1.0 put on by Negativland at the Great American Music Hall back in 2005. Not sure which night I was there, but I believe it might have been the first. Supposedly the live album was culled from the three performances (two in SF and one in LA)
― octobeard, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:32 (six years ago)
My agent in Syracuse tells me they just put a big A on the Carrier Dome.
― after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 16:17 (two years ago)