Steve Lillywhite, Lord of the Treble: C/D, S/D

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Mentioned on lots of threads, doesn't have his own that I can find. So...journeyman hack, sonic visionary, destroyer of the Las? And husband to Kirsty MacColl, of course.

I like his early '80s chimey-guitar stuff, especially the first U2 and Big Country albums. But some of his other stuff is way too busy and he sometimes buries the bass so deep it suffocates. Otoh, the busy-ness is part of what I like about the first two Furs' albums.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

A partial discography, from Wikipedia:

* Joan Armatrading: Walk Under Ladders
* Big Country: The Crossing, Steeltown
* Marshall Crenshaw: Field Day
* Climie Fisher: a few songs from Everything
* Peter Gabriel: Peter Gabriel (III or Melt)
* Guster: Lost and Gone Forever
* The La's: The La's
* Kirsty MacColl: Kite, Electric Landlady, Galore
* Dave Matthews Band: Under The Table and Dreaming, Crash, The Lillywhite Sessions, Before These Crowded Streets
* Morrissey: Vauxhall and I, Southpaw Grammar, Maladjusted
* Penetration: Coming Up For Air
* Phish: Billy Breathes
* The Pogues: If I Should Fall From Grace with God, Peace and Love
* Psychedelic Furs: The Psychadelic Furs, Talk Talk Talk
* The Rolling Stones: Dirty Work
* Simple Minds: Sparkle In The Rain
* Siouxsie & The Banshees: The Scream
* The Smiths: mixed the "Ask" single (The World Won't Listen)
* Talking Heads: Naked
* Thompson Twins: Set (album featuring their first hit "In The Name Of Love")
* Johnny Thunders: So Alone
* Travis: Good Feeling
* U2: Boy, October, War, Under a Blood Red Sky, a few songs on The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, All That You Can't Leave Behind, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb;
* World Party: Bang!
* XTC: Drums and Wires, Black Sea

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Classic for:

Peter Gabriel - III
Simple Minds - Sparkle In The Rain
Psychedelic Furs - s/t
La's - s/t (I love how this record sounds! I never understood what Mavers didn't like about it.)

I guess those U2 records deserve a shout out too, but I never need to listen to them again.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

For the XTC, the Furs, and the originally maligned Marshall Crenshaw and Stones: Classic!

(Did he really do Achtung Baby?)

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Classic: Johnny Thunders, the first two P-Furs, the third Peter Gabriel, Marshall Crenshaw, "Dirty Work," his stuff on Achtung Baby.

Dud: Dave Matthews.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Concurrence on XTC and Furs, and man did Ilove that first U2 when it was first released. He didn't do the Penetration record any favors, though. I need to relisten to "The Scream," it's been ages.

Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

as much as that dave matthews stuff sucks on a certain level (probably the fact that what came after was so so so very bad) the production that lillywhite did on under the table and dreaming and crash is really quite good.

letdowninlouisiana, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

The production on "Kite" is really very horrible indeed.

Then again "Vauxhall and I" would be the last Morrisey album I cared about, and easily one of his sweetest, most successful & complete sounding.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

He has produced loads of records that I like. I can't say that for every other producer, or many other producers.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

If all he'd done was play a role (with Padgham, Collins, and PG) in the creation of the Gated Drum Sound during the PGIII sessions, he'd be classic.

If all he'd done was lend his production talents and his wife to "Fairytale Of New York," he'd be classic.

Xtra love for Talk Talk Talk, where Vince Ely has never sounded better.

The low end on "One Hit" breathes pretty well, too.

Also search: "The Broad Majestic Shannon." Not only has it sneakily become my second-fave track on If I Should Fall From Grace With God, but it offers a really nice example of what's great about Lillywhite's sound when it works. Forcing the lows and highs onto separate planes creates a spacious home for vocals in the middle and is also quite EQ-friendly for them what needs their bass.

And "Biko," because, y'know, godDAMN.

boomp-boomp BIP-boomp BIP
boomp-boomp BIP-boomp BIP

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the Pogues sound great on If I Should Fall.... The sound murks up on Peace and Love, although that could have as much to do with Shane's acid binges as anything else. (And "Lorelei" on that record is a great, sweet Lillywhite production.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
Geir wrote:

This guy was sort of the hottest producer around at one stage during the early 80s. And then, listening to his work in retrospect, oh my how many potentially good albums did he ruin with his flat, tin-box-like, almost monaural sound?
In 1983, U2, Big Country, Marshall Crenshaw and Simple Minds all had some excellent collections of songs. All of which were completely ruined by Mr. Lillywhite. One might just imagine how great "War" might have sounded like with Daniel Lanois and Eno in the producers' seats, but that was not to happen. (And what he did for Crenshaw was even worse - sadly Crenshaw's career has been a series of ill-advised producer picks, and it wasn't until he started working with Brad Jones in the late 90s that he found the right guy)

Also, XTC may have written some of their best early material in 1979-80, but the sound on "Drums And Wires" and "Black Sea" was still tinny and flat. It is like, when occasionally a Lillywhite production did sound good for once (most notably on Peter Gabriel's third album) it must have been in spite of him rather than because of him.

Anyone ready to defend this disaster.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...) (webmail), March 25th, 2006.

Mitya (mitya), Saturday, 25 March 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

No mention of the Chameleons' "In Shreds"? Well, I say classic for that song alone. The first time I heard it I didn't know anything could sound that huge without wrecking my stereo.

Lotta Continua (Damian), Sunday, 26 March 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

for that song alone

I should say "on the basis of that song alone", which wouldn't suggest I don't like other things he's done, because I do.

Lotta Continua (Damian), Sunday, 26 March 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure about the production on Peter Gabriel's third either. But those first 2 Psychedelic Furs albums sound mighty: big, full, roaring wall of noise.

Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 March 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)


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