Instead, this is just another all-too common case of the burned-out critic. While even mighty icons like Lester Bangs have fallen under this malaise, I have little sympathy. It looks to me like a case of a small child allowed to devour anything he wants in a candy store, only to be found hours later huddled in the corner, covered in vomit, crying and vowing he'll never eat candy again. That old cliche "too much of a good thing" really does apply, be it exercise, sun, ice cream, music or tequila (it's amazing how many people have had a "bad experience in collge" with tequila and can't bear to touch it again).
So whatever happened to self control? You know, pacing yourself so you don't ruin your enjoyment? It seems pretty simple, but it looks like there needs to be some sort of group therapy sessions for burned out critics...
"Feeling inadequate that you can't hear every good album? Can't get excited about your favorite band's new albums? Has mixing too many genres in one day turned everything to a gray blur? Come to Dr. Fester's Retreats for Aesthetes and wash that ennui away within our revolutionary patented aqueous bulbs. For the first day or two, they serve as traditional isolation tanks where you are cut off from all visual and aural stimulation. Thereafter, the bulbs can be transported to environments where people can be seen enjoying music, such as shows and festivals. But you won't be able to hear anything. Alternatively, select patients will be subjected to repeated listens to albums by the Dave Matthews Band or Hoobastank. Either way, after several days we guarantee you will be eager to be free to enjoy music of your choice once again."
I've listened to a lot of music. When I start to feel burned out on absorbing new stuff, I take a break. But rather than make an ass of myself and blabber in public that there's no good new music anymore (to be fair, this is not what Southall said, but I see this all the time), I just spend some time enjoying old favorites. Simon Reynolds responded in his blog that the problem isn't a glut of self-produced crap, but rather the massive amount of "pretty-good-to-almost-excellent" to wade through. It's true there's more of everything -- shit to almost great. Who cares? That only means that if you simply go with the flow and follow your "muse," e.g. dig deep into a current obsession with a certain band or sound or subgenre, you're more likely than ever to stumble upon pleasant surprises.
Recently I wrote an installment of "What Were Your Most Anticipated Albums?", an exercise to remember what it was about certain bands and albums that made me so excited and passionate about them. I haven't introduced the question to this board because I felt it would die a quick death of sarcastic one-liners for all those "too cool 4 skool" to write anything earnest or real. But then again, maybe I'd be pleasantly surprised.
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)
― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)
― karl76 (karl76), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)
― ILX, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)
― Kit Lambert, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)
― ILX, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)
I'm glad Fastnbulbous doesn't know the history of this board (hell I barely know it) therefore he can go off a little bit easier that way plus I always like the long threads.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)
― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)
I tried not to make my criticism come off as personal, because it isn't. I'd hate to have what I write misconstrued as anything like the above, which is just really fucking infantile.
There's quite a few threads where people get emo about old albums, Fastnbulbous, to be honest though one person's story of fevered anticipation is going to be much the same as another's.
Who says the albums have to be old? A lot of people sent me stories when I first posted that, and they weren't the same at all.
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
So do you actually enjoy jazz, Nick, or just made it listenable for yourself?
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― okok, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
But ignore me, I haven't listened to anything but Beatles < 1963 for days now...
― Crunchy (aarana), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)
You know, I don't know. I think so.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)
― Jibé, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
That sounds very sad, but I've been there. Well, not there exactly, more like going back and forth between periods of love and burnout/boredom.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)
as has been pointed out here before, it's no coincidence that nick was about 18 when "in sides" came out.
― dan (dan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)
Dom, it is my job, and it's actually pretty easy to compartmentalize if you get aggressive about it: review stuff as though it were actually crossing a physical work-office desk (if you don't actually have an in-office Actual Like In The Movies desk), write about what you're assigned, beg off pleasure-listening for a while. Kinda weird at first but then pretty easy & worth doing.
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)
Well my suggestion wasn't necessarily to drop out of society for months or years and take up yak herding. I'm thinking more like taking a few days or a week off when needed. The proposed Dr. Fester's Retreat for Aesthetes would only take 2-5 days. Any takers?
Also, Nick, your article, which was enjoyable, sparked my response to all the critics throughout history who have failed us via burnout. Sorry to unload all that on you!
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)
Those special records are better served by spending several months with them - then writing about them. Like if I reviewed my favorite records of the year so far within a week of first listen, I wouldn't have done them justice.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)
― zeus, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
Sufjan Stevens - IllinoisClap Your Hands Say Yeah - s/TOrange Juice - Whatever The Fuck Their Album's CalledGirls Aloud - I Haven't Heard A Note From This Band
Be voracious, but be a human being sometimes
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)
maybe he should learn self-control huh
ps only a stylus faggot would download girls allowed
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)
I wrote for Grooves for the last eighteen months or so but I've stopped now. I've done some PR work for a few bands that I know. Stylus doens't pay at the moment. I've made money off record labels and PR people but that's it.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)
Go jerk off Rambo-style to your limited Beefheart album.
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)
riight.
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)
― ookokoko, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)
what
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)
― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)
― pete doherty, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― regionalgrimeregulator, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
Cabaret Voltaire? I was thinking more of the isthmus between Earthling and early Butthole Surfers.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)
― regionalgrimeregulator, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)
― okok, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)
― jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
Yes! Someone else wrote me about Hosono directly, and I'll post an expanded response here -- Funny that you mention Hosono -- I looked up where I first read about the albums, and it was issue 162 of The Wire from 1997, by Clive Bell. Good thing I'm a pack rat -- I still have that issue! It's sitting open on my couch as I speak (I'm at work right now though, so I haven't finished rereading it). If I can't find a digital version of it, I might write my own soon. It only took me 8 years to track the damn albums down! I remember thinking it sounded a lot like Discover America era Van Dyke Parks. And as I skimmed the beginning of the article, Hosono mentions how Parks produced one of the albums of his early 70s psychedelic band Happy End.
The albums are:
Tropical Dandy 1975Bon Voyage Co. 1976Paraiso 1978
The last one features the awesome cover of "Fujiyama Mama," and was credited to Haruomi Hosono and the Yellow Magic Band, a Beefheart reference. This evolved into the Yellow Magic Orchestra, which I recommend to anyone who would care to hear a whimsical Japanese Kraftwerk. When the mood strikes I'll dig for some of that Happy End. That's what slsk was originally meant for -- sharing hard to find music.
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)
― regionalgrimeregulator, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
"Sick 2 Def" reminded me of "Autobio of a Crackhead" as well (logically, as it's the only real precursor) but I don't think it's as good. It doesn't sound as precise in either the rap or gtr playing.
Not checked out the Lethal B but "isthmus between Earthling and early Butthole Surfers" means I'm gonna. Earthling are so underrated, one of the best ever 'always in the quid bin' groups.
― Raw Patrick at Work, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)
If you want to read my long, rambling reaction to the article, go here.
― Jack L., Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)
It's the endless chasing of the big new thing that's wearing. You can't discover just as a fan, by following a ball of twine from one artist to another. Everything must be new! Shiny! Digested! It's like being bulimic.
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)
thx to dl-ing, now everyone has access to a wide variety of music -- often for free. this position was once the exclusive preserve of writers (and other music-bizzers who got promo records). so now everyone gets to pick and choose from the vast sea of pop music releases, and can also feel the compulsion to keep up w/currents.
so in a sense, everyone's a potential critic now. whether or not that makes you a writer is a different question.
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)
You see I get the idea that this is the case for a lot of people on ILM, and I just don't understand it at all.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)
― Keith C (lync0), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)
The latter is how I usually listen to music now, which does bother me sometimes.
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)
― Keith C (lync0), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)
http://slowlisteningmovement.blogspot.com/2008/12/so-heres-deal.html
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:22 (seventeen years ago)
an excellent idea!
― sleeve, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:25 (seventeen years ago)
cool!
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:49 (seventeen years ago)
been de facto doing this for a couple years now
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:51 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, I've been following Matos on that closely this year.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:52 (seventeen years ago)
I think it's great stuff. I'm comfortable with my random overload way but it's nice to see this as a contrast.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:53 (seventeen years ago)
Hey Nick, what do you think of your initial Soulseeking installment almost 5 years later? How has your perspective changed, if at all?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)
Hmmmm. Interesting question; it's not something I've really though about, to be honest, because there's been such radical change in my listening habits between then and now. I don't write anymore, for a start, and so have no impetus to keep abreast of new releases particularly.
The process from Soulseeking to Imperfect Sound Forever and then through to Stylus closing and my 'retirement' was really one of... refining my habits and the strategies I use to find new music. I've not used any kind of peer-to-peer network at all in 5 years. I bought a house and lost a big chunk of disposable income that would otherwise have gone on CDs, and I became pretty much just a casual fan again.
And I love it; these days I download stuff via a couple of avenues, close-nit networks of contacts who share interesting new stuff they're excited about, but I'm very discerning with what I download; I only get stuff I'm pretty sure I'll then go on and buy later anyway. It's very rare for me to not buy something on CD that I've downloaded and liked; this year I've not bought Hot Chip or Shearwater on CD, but if I saw Hot Chip for a fiver I probably would. I had no problem shelling out £10 on Pantha Du Prince or £12 on The Knife. I didn't mind only getting into Lindstrom this January instead of a couple of years ago; I've bought 3 albums by him since the turn of the year.
So I guess... I still think too much music and too little contact with it is bad, so I guess my perspective from that POV hasn't really changed. But obviously my entire position has; I've also just got a much better, much busier job, which I'm sure will change things by stopping me grabbing recommendations from here so much, for example, but it will also give me a bit more disposable income. Also my new boss is as much of a music geek as I am; he got the Four Tet album on vinyl and The Knife album on CD this week (he used to be the music editor at Big Issue Manchester), and I can see us geeking out about stuff together, which is cool, and will probably enthuse me about a load of stuff I might not have got interested in otherwise.
I still keep all the CDs we buy in any given new year in a separate pile, so I know to remember to listen to new stuff. It's nice to be able to keep visual track of it. This is this year's haul so far;
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4422112380_8977a279a5.jpgp
If I was still writing would it be bigger? Probably. Would I feel as happy with the pile as I do with this? Probably not.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 13 March 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
Weird; that picture doesn't seem to be working. Here it is; http://www.flickr.com/photos/njsouthall/4422112380/
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 13 March 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)
Four TetPolar BearPantha du PrinceSpoon??? (looks like Growing?)Lindstrom and ChristabelleThe KnifeMassive Attack??? (no idea)DelphicJoanna Newsom
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 14 March 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)
Just saw Owen Pallett in the picture tags, nevermind.
Still don't know what's on top of Delphic.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 14 March 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)
I've been doing the 'Matos Method' for about 5 years now; first for financial reasons, now for sanity reasons.
― musicfanatic, Sunday, 14 March 2010 18:23 (fifteen years ago)
Fyfe Dangerfield.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 14 March 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)