t/s: "day tripper" vs "we can work it out"

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Which one is the REAL A-Side?

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

WCWIO = lameness
Day Tripper = hotness

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

They're both great, but Day Tripper is obviously the answer.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

day tripper.

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

"Day Tripper" is great once in a while but I always like "We Can Work It Out"'s chorus.

I'm going with the latter.

Voodoo Child, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

My favorite bit of We Can Work It Out is the swirly bridge: Life is very short, and there's no ti-iii-iii-ime for fussing and fighting my friend...

Day Tripper is one of those mystery songs where I'm never quite sure I know what's going on. They had a lot of those. Women in Beatles' songs are very strange.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

'we can work it out' is bettah. the bridge part mentioned above is one of their best, imo. i like how the first part is very staccato and robotic and then he draws out the word 'time' like that. day tripper has a cool guitar part, but the vocals sort of bug (me).

6335, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

If "Day Tripper" gets a lot of votes, is it safe to assume how a "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" thread would end up?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

If that's the case then Penny Lane gets my vote because it's my favorite song ever. Sorry if that dissapoints anyone.

Voodoo Child, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

We Can Work It Out wins....great melodic hooks and so on, although I'm going to have to go out on a limb and say the bridge kind of drags on me, in the same way that the chorus to Day Tripper does (dayyyyyyyyyyyy... blah). DT's got that great riff but not too much else. I think they put out a number of overrated songs around this time - "Girl" anyone?

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

I love Girl, though. It's so mean and hurt. She's the kind of girl who'll put you down when friends are there... John wrote really sharp relationship songs around that time, like little Raymond Carver scenes or something.

I'd probably take Penny Lane over Strawberry Fields, because it's funny and charming and odd, and also because "Nothing is real/ And nothing to get hung about" is not one of John's smarter lines even though the sound of Strawberry Fields is pretty spectacular.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:25 (twenty years ago)

WCWIO, partly 'cause of how the bridge subverts in primo Lennon fashion. Also for Stevie Wonder's cover, which kinda kicks the Beatles' asss.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

both are gay shit which ironic because thats what the beetles were

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

Both are A+ but "We Can Work It Out" wins pretty easily for me. Yes, the bridge is great but the verses are not far behind. I think it's a much more potent example of McCartney and Lennon working together/apart than "A Day in the Life." And what a amazing sounding record! That harmonium! That tambourine!

Burr (Burr), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

That's not ironic, Alanis . . . er, Esteban.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

WCWIO, for all the reasons above including the Stevie Wonder.

day tripper just sucks. I find it nearly as boring as paperback writer.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

day tripper is sooooooooooooooo much better than wcwio. the latter's bridge has never done much for me, i don't like the instrumentation on the verses (sounds too wheezy), while the former has one of the perfect "keep it simple, stupid" riffs, great harmonies, and a real kinetic ringo performance w/a nifty pseud-freakout at the end, so it wins

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

The bridge of WCWIO is better than the riff of Day Tripper: strength beats strength, so like rock paper scissors it's WCWIO all the way.

I like the wheezy verses: premonitions of the "old man voice" Lennon adopts on Revolver. far out, man...

Crunchy (aarana), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

WCWIO definitely. That time-sig-shifting march-tempo/mash-up is classic pastiche songwriting.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

I think we can work it out is the better song but I would, more often, rather hear day tripper and I think of it as more of an A-side

crosspost

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

No contest... WCWIO is the best beatles song by some distance IMO

Laney, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Jeez. Where'd all this WCWIO love come from? Granted, great bridge, as people have said, but Day Tripper's riff CANNOT BE DENIED.

Day Tripper.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

T/S: riff vs. song-writing

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I think of Day Tripper as the A side but like We Can Work It Out More. Both are good, though.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

We Can Work It Out. One of their best.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

WCWIO, because of the harmonium.

Keith C (lync0), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

are the WCWIO lovers also big "Roll With It" fans?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

gygax! otm 2x

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

are the WCWIO lovers also big "Roll With It" fans?
I dunno. Big "Let Me Roll It" fan, yes.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I do think "Day Tripper" is a little more than just a riff. The chorus is nice and I like the guitar solo with the wordless background vocals going on.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Daytripper sounds like 64.
WCWiO sounds like 65
65 Love Affair sounds like Haulin' Oates
But it is Paul Davis
It's gonna be a cool night...

PappaWheelie B.C., Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

gygax! otm 2x
-- k/l (lauter...), September 21st, 2005.

+ 1

PappaWheelie B.C., Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

I hear it more as "Day Tripper" sounds like '65 and "We Can Work It Out" sounds like '66.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

'We can work it out' by a mile. The singing on the verses is what I like most about Day Tripper, otherwise 'nice and peppy' is the only way I can describe it/process it.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

The Day Tripper riff sounds to me like the main piano lick in Ray Charles' What'd I Say.

earlnash, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

I remember John Lennon saying on the radio that he had been inspired by "What'd I Say" but I think the song he was talking about was "I Feel Fine."

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

They're both great, but Day Tripper is obviously the answer.

If "Day Tripper" gets a lot of votes, is it safe to assume how a "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" thread would end up?

If that's the case then Penny Lane gets my vote because it's my favorite song ever. Sorry if that dissapoints anyone.

Pvt. Dave Dares To Be Different (scarlet), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I think they put out a number of overrated songs around this time - "Girl" anyone?

Noooo!!! Why "Girl?" It's my favorite Rubber Soul track.

Daytripper sounds like 64.
WCWiO sounds like 65
65 Love Affair sounds like Haulin' Oates
But it is Paul Davis
It's gonna be a cool night...

I'm not sure what this means, but I'm happy that somehow there's a connection between this single and "It's gonna be a cool night."

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

"Girl" was definitely a bad call. If you had said "Run For The Life" you might have been closer, although that song at least has the Elvis Presley reference going for it.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

come on over...I sure like that "Cool Night."

Daytripper is Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman, even if Daytripper was first, weren't they simultaneous? We Can Work is one of the best Beatles songs, but Stevie Wonder does do it better, but the Beach Boys don't do I Was Made to Love Her Better, and the Beach Boys don't do Hide Your Love Away better.

Rubber Soul doesn't hold any attraction for me now except maybe You Won't See Me and I think Girl is all right. Run for Your Life is lame in the extreme but that's all within the Meltzerian schema of the Beatles, the last song should be a lame Sun Records imitation. So it's my favorite song on the album.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

It's not that lame, really.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

Interesting thing about Day Tripper is that it's one of their few straight blues, structurally and lyrically (the A-B-A-B verses), and the riff is basically a blues riff, but the arrangement, production and harmonies aren't bluesy at all.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Lame = Stevie Wonder's version of WCWIT. I can't believe anyone thinks it beats the Beatles'.

Burr (Burr), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

The falsetto "It took me SOOOOO long" in the last third of "Day Tripper" is gobsmacked genius.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

Tough call! I love Lennon's bridge on WCWIO but hate Paul's verses, whereas Day Tripper is a perfectly formed unit of a song but somehow not as exciting.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

T/S - Beatles' Ticket to Ride vs. Beach Boys' Girl Don't tell Me

PappaWheelie B.C., Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

TTR, easy.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

This thread is a Paul vs. John thread thinly veiled, which is the most tired subject.

PappaWheelie B.C., Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

But no! It's a legit query. Picking a great weird Lennon tune over a slightly-less-great McCartney tune (with a great Lennon bridge) is not making any universal judgment re: John vs. Paul. The whole point of the Beatles is that you don't have to choose John vs. Paul -- you get them both.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 22 September 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

"Day Tripper" has a great riff and a sly "She's a prick teaser!" but I choose "WCWIO" for all the reasons already stated. (The harmonium, the 3/4 bits, the "cri-i-i-i-ime".)

I don't like Stevie Wonder's cover either. Deep Purple's is a little better but not much.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

Run for Your Life is like a lot of Beatles songs--it's not such a terrible song but the way they do it is lame in the extreme.

I do really like Wonder's verison of We Can Work. He does a cool little riff there that I wish the Beatles had done, whenever I hear the original. But it's a real good song--the fabled Lennon/McCartney dark/light thing, the fabled Chilton/Bell dark/light combination, Vanda and Young, Leiber and Stoller...Brian Wilson/Mike Love. I dunno.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

OK, I did forget about that falsetto bit in Daytripper, that was a nice touch.

Is there even remotely a contest between Ticket To Ride and Girl Don't Tell Me? I mean, I do like the latter, but, come on. There's not a song on "Help!" that doesn't beat Girl Don't Tell Me.

As for Run For Your Life, am I alone in thinking it's fabulous? It's nice to hear the Beatles working their murderous side, and I think it has a great noisy energy that they really didn't pull together very often, even on many of their would-be rockers. It would have livened up Beatles '65 immensely....

And "Girl," well, it just bores me and has for the ten years that I've been listening to this stuff. Can't put my finger on it. I like the IDEA of it, and can certainly relate, but the whole thing just feels REALLY sluggish and weary.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it supposed to sound weary? It's one of his relationship songs like "Norwegian Wood" crossed with one of his sleepy songs like "I'm Only Sleeping " or "I'm So Tired."

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Is there even remotely a contest between Ticket To Ride and Girl Don't Tell Me? I mean, I do like the latter, but, come on. There's not a song on "Help!" that doesn't beat Girl Don't Tell Me

Yeah. Dizzy Miss Lizzy stomps the hell out of Brian's somber remake of Ticket to Ride...

The joke was they're the same song, complete with ripping off the Beatles riff.

And I maintain that Girl Don't Tell Me is sorely underrated. Certainly better than much of Help!

PappaWheelie B.C., Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

DT's got that great riff but not too much else.

it's also got that killer tambourine.

stevie wonder's "we can work it out" comes pretty damn close to topping the beatles. one of my favorite stevie performances ever.

"girl don't tell me" is my favorite beach boys song. the beatles ripped off lotsa people, so why can't the beach boys rip off them? the carl wilson vocal is haunting and weird, as is the lyric with its shifting, never-quite-centered tone of anger, sadness and desperation.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 29 September 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

ten years pass...

We Can Work It Out wins....great melodic hooks and so on, although I'm going to have to go out on a limb and say the bridge kind of drags on me, in the same way that the chorus to Day Tripper does (dayyyyyyyyyyyy... blah). DT's got that great riff but not too much else. I think they put out a number of overrated songs around this time - "Girl" anyone?

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:04 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

damn, i meant to mark my ten-year ILX anniversary when it came around, oops. i still feel mostly the same about these songs but the bridge really isn't that draggy, not enough to be worth calling out. "girl" still completely sucks.

Frump 'n' Dump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 6 November 2015 00:08 (ten years ago)

would have said DT before, but my son started playing WCWIO on guitar the other day, and we tried to get the harmonies right, and couldn't quite. a thing of beauty

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 6 November 2015 02:04 (ten years ago)

love this era -- easily the beatles stuff i go back to most. slightly prefer paperback writer/rain single to this one. but they're both great.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 November 2015 02:16 (ten years ago)

I can never even remember "Day Tripper". It never occurred to me that people might prefer to "We Can Work It Out". Then, I love "Girl" too.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 6 November 2015 04:30 (ten years ago)

pls listen to "Day Tripper" ASAP , it is amazing

"We Can Work It Out" might be the beginning of the McCartney sappiness creeping in, not one of my faves

interesting background:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Can_Work_It_Out

sleeve, Friday, 6 November 2015 04:35 (ten years ago)

I have never particularly liked these songs but I would say WCWIO is better in terms of songwriting.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:36 (ten years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/JROE1mZ.png

mookieproof, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:57 (ten years ago)

great melodic hooks and so on, although I'm going to have to go out on a limb and say the bridge kind of drags on me

No way, the contrast between the bridge and v/c is what makes the song great.

Agreed that Day Tripper is a world-class riff without much of a job to do.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:58 (ten years ago)

The new stereo mix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyclqo_AV2M

timellison, Sunday, 8 November 2015 03:48 (ten years ago)

slightly prefer paperback writer/rain single to this one.

My god, that single makes a sick joke of 'Day Tripper'/'We Can Work it Out'

It never occurred to me until you brought it up just now, JD.

I'm biased as hell though, 'Rain' is quite possibly my overall favorite Beatles tune.

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 8 November 2015 03:51 (ten years ago)

Yeah, Paperback Writer/Rain wins but I've learned or relearned to like this one too.

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 November 2015 03:59 (ten years ago)

First Beatles tape I had was the US version of 20 Greatest Hits. As the years go by, I'm still irked by how they chose which split A-side to use. Couldn't give George just one, had to put Come Together on there.

Anyway. We Can Work It Out is probably the better song, but damn, Day Tripper is such a better performance.

pplains, Sunday, 8 November 2015 04:13 (ten years ago)

yeah... Day Tripper... the drums! that cool little guitar solo turning into a bridge turning into a buildup back to the verse! Ringo is so rock steady on this one, great use of what I think is hi-hat?

agreed that PB Writer/Rain leaves this single in the dust, but things were moving fast back then and they are both stone cold classics

sleeve, Sunday, 8 November 2015 05:20 (ten years ago)

Excellent points, especially about the guitar solo. A recording could have been just a one riff pony is brought to higher ground by the performance and arrangement, if maybe not quite all the way to the astral plane. Dig that quotation in "Re-Make/Re-Model."

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 November 2015 05:48 (ten years ago)

two months pass...

WCWIO is lyrically kind of astonishing, a paean to dogmatism and pig-headed obstinacy somehow successfully disguised as a plea for tolerance and compromise. I hate it!

ledge, Saturday, 9 January 2016 15:16 (ten years ago)

Lol, agreed

Green Dolphin Street Hassle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 January 2016 15:33 (ten years ago)

haha true singer comes off as worst discussion partner ever

niels, Saturday, 9 January 2016 15:35 (ten years ago)

Nice use of "We Can Work It Out" in the 1983 documentary Seventeen (without copyright clearance, I would guess).

clemenza, Saturday, 9 January 2016 15:39 (ten years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.