The Strokes - Juicebox (leaked)

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on my 2nd listen.

the ending is brilliant

the first minute is a bit dodgy.

i'll do a YSI

― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

Go jerk off Rambo-style to your limited Beefheart album.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

Actually i often use a Rambo style bandana to help the flow of blood to the 'critical' area while i jerk off.

It's my dysfunction.

― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

here's the YSI link

get rid of the 'x' in the http

hxtp://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1UPGRX0Q0Z7VI1SBNE5PBGIJE7

― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

You know how sometimes you download a leaked song and you hear it for the first time and you think "God, I hope that's a clever fake, it's a bit rubbish but maybe they'll actually fool the entire internet, release something else and it'll turn out to be one of the biggest hoaxes of all time"?

I think this is one of those.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

That's why I want to hear the album.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

It's like "This is the first single? What does the rest sound like?"

Having said that, I hated 12.51 at first, and now I think its the best song they've done.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

oh my god, they sound like a horrid 80s band. what is that bassline meant to be? it sounds like a joke.

― okooko, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

i think its pretty good, but im a little concerned, cause some parts sound like U2. i guess sounding in parts like U2 isnt such a bad thing, but i definitely dont want the whole album to sound like them.

although suedey OTM - i felt the same way about "12:51" sounding like the cars...

― petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

hey hari, did you intend the pun of the thread title? its hilarious!

― petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

I love it! I already gave it some airplay. I think it's genius, It excited me way more than 12:51 which in the end i got to like a lot and yes, i agree, it's one of their best songs. So, first album, they were VU-ish enough, then The Cars influence appeared on the second album, someone pointed yesterday that now they're The Cramps but which way do you think they're going? CYHSY already did their Talking Heads which I thought was the way they were going. Will they ever get to do their Grunge attempt? Is this going to be it?

― elgolfo (elgolfo), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

It'll do.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

uhhhhhh ... not really feelin' it yet. TOTAL U2 influence on the "Yor' so CAWWWWWWUUUULLLD" part.

I dunno, I liked "12:51" much better on first listen. I really really liked it better.

Bah

― Erock LAzron, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

there is cool stuff going on actually this song is kind of great. i don't like the tone of the bass tho. i will never like that kind of bass tone. but the vamp is in the locrian mode, built off the seventh degree. it makes the change very pleasing. this song would be really cool performed by a string quartet.

― craptain crunch, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

I can't stop giggling at the thread title.

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

they CONSTANTLY pick the wrong singles so i won't be judging the lp by the single. that said, i haven't heard it.

terible title. still, god bless em though.

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

This is unexpected. Kinda like it

― djangojones (djangojones), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

the above link is invalid. can someone re-up please?

― d. mitha (ykeo), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

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― hstencll, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

captain crunch OTM wrt to the bass tone!

sounds like some self-recorded metal band from the late 80s!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

There is already a thread on this. BTW, Love the song.

The New Strokes Record Will Be Titled "First Impressions of Earth"

― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

it sounds like jet

― f-a-b-o-l-o-u-s (adamwest), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

someone pointed yesterday that now they're The Cramps

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

what???

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

it's kinda peter gunn-ish but cramps is a stretch. don't hear u2 either.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

i don't really hear the cramps, nor u2. but i do really like the second half.

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

it has a "spy movie" bassline. i dont know what else to think, just yet.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

its radiohead and nirvana tinged..not bad for a buncha doofs

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

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― hstencll, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

i've listened to this 3 times and it still hasn't made an impression on me. i'm getting the same vibe i got the first time i heard "beverly hills". this'll be their smash hit that will be played on k-rock 30 times a day.

i'm very dissapointed in you, julian. you could have done much better.

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

it's kinda peter gunn-ish

I thought this immediately. Somehow it reminds me of System of a Down, oddly enough.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

oh wow that's bad.
they had a nice run though.

― Will (will), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

naff

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

misfits!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

I'm really annoyed by the Franz Ferdinand's record these days, mainly because of all the rubbish we heard in the last months, about how ambitious musically it would be, white crunk, etc...

Juicebox really sounds like something new - at least for the Strokes. And I quite like it.

― snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

anybody who likes this song better fucking like the vines too

― a, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

It's a lateral move... which I guess is better than no move at all.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

bahahahahahahaha

― Mookie Wilson (mookie wilson), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

ok the end bit is pretty, should listen to whole thing before passing judgement. still.. he he.

― Mookie Wilson (mookie wilson), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

i can totally sympathise with ppl who dont have time to like songs because they play knowing meta-games with their audience and such, but i still feel that 'if you like this then you better like the vines' sentiments are kinda silly and point-missing cos, like julian said on the other thread, juicebox has an 'attitude', its just one that's effective only if you know what you want from the strokes (and rock music), so you get the (ultimately pleasing) friction of being immediately denied it, and then given it in teasing bits, and then given a lot of it, and then denied it again etc. this is the only reason i can produce after i first wasnt sure i wanted to hear it again, then thought i might only want to hear it a couple times, then put it on repeat forever.

― jermaine (jnoble), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

plus there's that other friction, the one that comes from knowing that the 'ugly' bits are rooted in another rock tradition of real man hardness that's (stop me at any time) alien to ppl who only like the linkin park songs that're kinda disco (btw, this is me i'm talking about here)

― jermaine (jnoble), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

This is a pretty good song. The start isn't that "Classic" but the end (where Julian does the High Wail) is brilliant. I was hoping they would take a new direction and with Casablancas doing that High Pitch scream, that's a good new direction.

― Voodoo Child, Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

sounds like they've been smoking out of weezer's hash pipe

― naturemorte, Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

This is quite possibly one of the worst songs I've ever heard.

― kurt broder (dr g), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

Juicebox really sounds like something new - at least for the Strokes.

Not my favorite band by any stretch of the imagination, but I do give them credit for not recording Is This It? Vol. 3.

― John Hunter, Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

Memo to the Strokes.

Things you can do: Write good pop songs.

Things you can't do: Rock, in any way.

I hope they remember that for the album.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm. Sounds like INXS...
Is This It? Vol3 would have been preferable!

― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

well, I've listened to it a few times now and... I can't remember a melody line... and as a whole, it's pretty "messy". I dunno, not feeling it. maybe the worst strokes song so far.

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

The worst Strokes song so far is still "Alone, Together", or as I call it, "The Sonic Song". Sounding, as it does, like one of the tunes from Sonic the Hedgehog. But worse.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

a sonic comparison seems pretty cool to me... would have made a nice video !

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

post-modern, ironic, regressive and all... 30 somethings would have loved it !

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

I love these ilm threads where people listen to half of a leaked track and then begin the wake for a band's career

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

that's 2005 !

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

xpost
It's the whole track.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

I like it more on repeated listens. There's a lot to take in. It's actually several seemingly unrelated songs connected (disjointed vs. mini-suite).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

this song makes me wanna get drunk and drive. i think that's a good thing.

― rockaction (rockaction), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

xpost - better than Television?

― lolol, Friday, 23 September 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

another grower (like 12:51)...I can't stop listening to this now, once again they've created subtle hooks that aren't obvious initially...dudes sure know how to "craft"

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

really ? i still can't remember a nice melody part of this !

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

Can you at least remember that opening riff? (If not, please turn in your ears to the proper authorities; they should be revoked.)

― disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

i recon it was weird at first, but got pretty cool after a few listens. a completely different direction from their other stuff. the start of the song is weird, julian sounds like a dick and the lyrics sound like something from a lame childrens book. but the rest of the song is rather good, but the bass line totally isnt the strokes, there bass lines are useually trendy now they seem to be moving away from that.

― Aspestos, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

well, the opening riff, yeah, i can remember... but it's so "cliché" that even this isn't clearly memorable !
i still don't like this song (and i've listened to it many times now).

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

i love the strokes. and im trying to love this song, but im finding it tres difficile! all i can say is i hope it grows on me.. think i speak for most when i say that i doubt it will give me the same feelings as is this it or room on fire gives me though..x

― watchie, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

I have to admit, I've not been returning to this song like I have with virtually every other thing they've done...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

It sounds like two parts to two totally different songs: one sounds completely ridiculous, like a joke (the "Hashpipe"-sounding first bit) and the second part sounds like it could be cool if it were coupled with a better verse (or something) and made into a proper song. At least it doesn't sound the same as their previous twenty-whatever songs.

― Nigel (Nigel), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

God damm! this rocks and thats it! maybe not the greatest song in the world but theres attidute and ain't rock music all about that in the end. The fact that this "juicebox" is kind of strange song makes me just more exited and fuckin horny to hear the full album. It would have been so boring and lame if they just made a basic "ok" song like 12:51.They got so much potential and It will brake my heart if the album will suck, but I doubt it,I have strong feeling that something great is gonna happen!

― ZachVinícious, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

full album tracklisting, not in order (presumably to make it harder for shareXors, for about 3.5 minutes):

You Only Live Once
Juicebox
Heart In A Cage
Razor Blade
On The Other Side
Eletricityscape
Killing Lies
Fear Of Sleep
15 Minutes
Vision Of Division
Red Light
Evening Sun
The Ize Of The World
Ask Me Anything

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

so the album hasn't leaked yet ?

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

The rhythm of the song sounds exactly like the "repo man" theme by Iggy.

― Ellis, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

"sounds like it could be cool if it were coupled with a better verse (or something) and made into a proper song"

the reason this works is because it tweaks the common notion of a "proper" song...and does so with such subtlety that people seem to think its either derivative or ridiculous...that repo man bass is just a setup for intriguing tension of the verse, which is a setup for a bridge that doesn't quite fit and yet FITS SO WELL, which sets up the sublime chorus..apart, these sections seem unrelated, and could be from separate songs...but The Strokes have always found a way of displaying an album's worth of subtle hooks into one song

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

"sounds like it could be cool if it were coupled with a better verse (or something) and made into a proper song"

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

woops, please delete the first modman

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

"the reason this works is because it tweaks the common notion of a "proper" song...and does so with such subtlety that people seem to think its either derivative or ridiculous...that repo man bass is just a setup for intriguing tension of the verse, which is a setup for a bridge that doesn't quite fit and yet FITS SO WELL, which sets up the sublime chorus..apart, these sections seem unrelated, and could be from separate songs...but The Strokes have always found a way of displaying an album's worth of subtle hooks with one song"

I totally disagree.

― Nigel (Nigel), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

I totally agree.

― snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

"the reason this works is because it tweaks the common notion of a "proper" song

So does every Tori Amos song. So does "Shiny Happy People," which, by the way, changes time signatures twice.

Come on, it's not like you've never heard a song with more than two sections. "OMG they're totally unrelated." Perhaps it's just an indication of how far we lowered our expectations. Some famous people's individualsongs have more melodic variety than the Strokes' first two albums.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

its not "variety" that I'm concerned with, but "consistancy"...I said that it "tweaks the common notion of a proper song" because each section so unpredictably sets up the next, but the most important aspect is that each of these sections are filled with subtle, memorable hooks..the type of hidden gems that are scattered throughout most albums..their talent is to craft their songs so carefully that the weaker aspects are filtered out (even between sections that seem unrelated)...too many people write them off before giving it a chance because they see the seemingly derivitive style, or Julian's arrogant tone, or a bass line that initially sounds corny...I don't think its lowering expectations at all, if anything its an evolution, not necessarily better than what came before, but a condensed version of the same type of genius for a generation with shorter attention spans...like reading Alexander Trocchi instead of William Blake

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

I see what you mean. We just have seriously differing definitions of unpredictability.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 29 September 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

well... you can judge their whole music direction all you want on that one song you heard... but they played another song on triple j radio (australia) cause the record company gave them the wrong one and i dont know what it is called but it was very strokes sounding... don't go mad, they still are the strokes :)

― loz, Sunday, 2 October 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

Easily, EASILY my favourite Strokes song to date. They've never really done it for me before, but THIS... God, yes.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 3 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

STROKES = GENIUS!

― , Tuesday, 4 October 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

hey i think most of you faggots who dont like it can go fucking die and the rest of you are pretty pathetic discussing a strokes album online i cant believe i actually left a comment on here, now i feel as much as a dumbass as the rest of you shitheads
p.s. go do something with your life

― FUCK INTERNET LOSERS, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

look at all the strokes on this thread

― Magin 'Pedro' Johnson's magical AIDS thrfit store (dr g), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

p.s. go do something with your life

I WON'T AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!!!!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

"hey i think most of you faggots who dont like it can go fucking die..."

― eedd, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Terrorvision might want their bassline back

― re (rde), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

man, that line's SO killer...anyone mentioning faggots that need to die is alright by me...unless they mean gay d00ds need to die.
that's not cool.

― eedd, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

I am warming to this track. I still don't have the urge to put it on, but when it does come on I enjoy it quite a bit.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

David Cross is in the video: http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QSSUM7KBHH7E1FMQDP9SS6AQO

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 12 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

thats really fucking awful.

― jermaine (jnoble), Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

wow....i was starting to like the song after hearing it on the radio a few times. after seeing this video i hate it even more than i did when i first heard it.

the lesbians were in it for what?...10 seconds?

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

Oh my fucking god.

It thinks it's naughty, I guess, but it's just... nauseating in a very elemental way.

I could honestly live without the image of an old lady begging a dalmatian to fuck her. too late, i guess.

blech.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 12 November 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

I like how all those "any ethnicity OK" parts still ended up white.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 12 November 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

so how many lp tracks have we got so far then

― hold tight the morbid digger (mwah), Monday, 14 November 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

They're doing a 'secret' gig at Koko in Camden on Saturday week, apparently.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

hold tight: the current count is 5 - two alright (only live once, razorblade), two bad (juicebox, the other side), one unspeakably awful (15 minutes of pain)

― jermaine (jnoble), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

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