Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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A search reveals that these volumes have been mentioned all over the place, but have never had a comprehensive thread.

Since last week's compelling Dylanival and the long ILM thread about it, I have been driven back to the Bootlegs 1-3. Slowly working my way through: still only up to 'She's Your Lover Now'. But crikey, that track almost deserves a thread of its own! So thrilling to hear things come together and fall apart, piano hold steady while guitarist stops and starts again; like the 'Keep It With Mine' where the producer tells Bob to keep going.

Other big theme I wanted to raise: Great Unreleased Songs. 'Mama, You Been On My Mind' and 'Farewell Angelina', never on an LP - yet standards for years, and finally available here! What about those? How did they become standards anyway: through actual bootleg-bootlegs? Why did he leave them off LPs in the first place?

So much to say. And I have not heard Vol 7 yet.

the bobfox, Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

search: blind willie mctell from volume 3.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

I like the 'Albert Hall' one very much. I think the tuning up is btter than most albums. I do a 'human beatbox' version of it. I do not like the 1975 one very much, apart from the solo performances. I have hardly listened to 1964 (but it is in my bag). I haven't heard or seen the latest one (but it is in the work DVD box in non-packaged format - maybe I will borrow it to make up for my disappointment at having taken home Rocky II and Car Wash only to find they were region one). I like 1-3, but I do not have it at home at present. I like Every Grain Of Sand better than the 'proper' version, and I like the Blood On The Tracks, erm, tracks.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I think "She's Your Lover Now" would have been the best song on Blonde on Blonde.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

* We need: more outtakes from the Basement Tapes.

* 1st song on Vol 5/1975 should shut up forever anyone who still thinks "Dylan can't sing"

* "Wallflower" - one of his most underrated songs, David Bromberg's version is great

Keith C (lync0), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

bootleg 1-3 was actually my first exposure to dylan, since i was staying with a dylan fanatic who had just bought it, and i really flipped for it. "she's your lover now" is really fantastic... i also very much liked the really fast version of "it takes a train to laugh..."... the concert bootlegs of "mama you've been on my mind" that i've heard have always been very jaunty; did he ever play it as delicately as he did on that set? lastly, the basement outtake "santa fe" is the one i sing the most, since it's got a great melody and incoherent lyrics

dave k, Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

She's Your Lover Now and Blind Willie McTell are the stars of the Bootleg Series 1-3 box set. I'm also really partial to Nobody 'Cept You, an outtake from Planet Waves which would have been the best song on it.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know people loved 'She's Your Lover Now' so much! I am excited.

I adore that vol 5 version of 'Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You' - track one, even using the phrase 'Rolling Thunder'. Thrills!

the bobfox, Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I will isten to it again. I think there might be too many musicians, a la Concert For Bangladesh.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

On the Royal Albert Hall bootleg series, I am NOT a fan of the acoustic disc. I find it slow and just kinda overly mannered. The electric disc, however, is some of the best rock and roll ever played.

If you want to hear great acoustic Bob, you can't beat the three songs on Before the Flood: Don't Think Twice, It's Alright Ma and Just Like A Woman. All three are the best versions of those songs, and beat the piss out of the Royal Albert Hall acoustic stuff.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Haha yes! Before the Flood is occasionally great

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

the bear mountain picnic song gets me everydamntime...

i'm also happy for the recently uprooted love of "shes your lover now". i about break everytime it just quits like that. Vol. 7 proves that the blonde on blonde sessions, though interesting, don't quite pack the punch of the final versions. i can't imagine what would have become of syln. the vol. 2 version is rough, but warm. b o b has a late night frosty glow. it coulda been better or worse.

the vol. 2 version of santa fe is great, better than the genuine basement tape's version....it makes you need to belt along with it.

i've gone on week long binges with each of the live records. Rolling Thunder got me to like "The Hurricane". The "It's Alright Ma" from 1964 brought back the almost crushing power of that song for me. And I still get chills with the 66 version of "Like A Rolling Stone".

all said, i love this series. i think it provides a brilliant look into how grand the dylan universe is.

bb (bbrz), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

The '80s stuff on the first Bootleg comp is first-rate. "Blind Willie McTell," "Caribbean Wind," the E Street Band-performed version of "When The Night Comes Falling From The Sky" are some of his greatest songs.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Don't forget about Biograph:
"And I went back to find Isis just to tell 'er I love ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!"

Old School (sexyDancer), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

re: the 1966 acoustic sets--I beg to differ. Those are among my favorite Dylan recordings of all time. So slow, sad and beautiful. I think Dylan's really digging deep--losing himself completely in the songs. He often sounds so otherworldy and lonely that it's a shock when the applause comes after the songs end. In its own way, I think those sets are just as radical as the electric set (which I also loooooove). And there's some of the wildest harmonica work of the man's career--check out the long excursion he takes at the end of Tambourine Man. I can dig the Before the Flood stuff, but it's a little bit too amped up for my tastes.

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

As far as acoustic live Dylan goes, I've always loved his vocal on "Just Like a Woman" from Bangladesh. He sings his guts out.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

how is that Gaslight performance that was just released?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

what i want to know is why "can you please crawl out your window", the glockenspiel version, was never released or used in the doc. it's easily in my top 5 dylan songs--as exuberant as live 65.

naturemorte, Thursday, 6 October 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Crikey, yes, Urgent & Key: that was a 45 - but I'm afraid I have never heard it in my life, not that I can remember. What does it sound like?

the bellefox, Thursday, 6 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

I love the 1964 disc (vol 6). Dylan sounds so eager to entertain his audience, as opposed to the bitter stance he took during the next two years (both sides of him were captured so well in the Scorcese doc). He sings his guts out on songs like "Who Killed Davey Moore" and "If You Gotta Go, Go Now" with power that I didn't know he had in him before I heard this record.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 6 October 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

'Mama, You Been On My Mind' and 'Farewell Angelina', never on an LP - yet standards for years, and finally available here! What about those? How did they become standards anyway: through actual bootleg-bootlegs?

dunno about "FA" but "MYBOMM" was covered by a few people--as the Scorsese doc makes clear, his publisher made sure his songs got covered.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 6 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

One night I discovered something totally insane. If you have the DVD disc that came with the Rolling Thunder volume then play Isis. When you see the part when the sweaty guitarist's eyes are all bulging from cocaine and he tries to bite Dylan's left-hand fingers, back it up a bit and play it in slow motion. That whole fucking weird scene played in slo-mo is truly mesmerizing and a bit disturbing.

Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

Joan Baez put out "FA" first I think, and she made it famous.

I've had the the first box for a few years and been meaning to pick up vols. 4-7. Some faves from it that haven't been mentioned much:

Seven Curses (I'm sucker for mystical revenge/stolen virginity/evil lawmen/wronged man folklore stuff)
Sitting On A Barbed Wire Fence ("She's turnin' me into an old man/and man, I ain't even 25!")
If Not For You (It's prettier than the official version)
Nobody 'Cept You (Good call kornrulez)
Seven Days (Since i dig this and the rolling thunder biograph tracks, how urgent is it for me to pick up Vol.5? And also is the 1st version w/the dvd worth tracking down?)
Foot of Pride (The homesick blues, nearly 20 years of schoolin' later, and still on the day shift)
Tell Me (Bob can do Pop)

Xpost
thanks for answering my question before I posted it. that sounds cool.

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

'Mama, You Been On My Mind' and 'Farewell Angelina', never on an LP - yet standards for years, and finally available here! What about those? How did they become standards anyway: through actual bootleg-bootlegs?
dunno about "FA" but "MYBOMM" was covered by a few people--as the Scorsese doc makes clear, his publisher made sure his songs got covered.

-- Matos-Webster Dictionary (michaelangelomato...), October 6th, 2005.

Most notably and beautifully by Rod Stewart.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Another good one from The Bootleg Series box is the demo of Every Grain of Sand, which I prefer to the Shot of Love version...much more intimate without the Bobettes.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Barking dog!

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Although the 3rd disc of Bootleg Series 1-3 is kind of throwaway, and the 2nd disc has a lot of great alternate versions of album tracks, that first disc is very worthwhile; in fact, over the last 5 years, I've probably listened to that first disc more than anything else Dylan-related.

1st Disc Standouts:
"Hard Times in New York Town"
"House Carpenter" (Is this a cover or an original? It's become one of my Dylan favorites)
"Talkin' Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues"
"Rambling, Gambling Willie"
"Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues"
"Who Killed Davey Moore?"
"Last Thoughts On Woody Guthrie" (if for nothing else, those ending lines:

"You'll find God in the church of your choice
You'll find Woody Guthrie in Brooklyn State Hospital

And though it's only my opinion
I may be right or wrong
You'll find them both
In the Grand Canyon
At sundown"

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

Am I alone in my complete awe of "Moonshiner"?

Sung with such beauty, control, and weight, I can't get over it. Devastates me every time.

Taylor, Friday, 7 October 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

xpost "his publisher made sure": yes, pinefox, his "Mama You Been On My Mind" and a bunch of other demos were sent around by the publisher, so Fairport took "Percy's Song" and others, and the whole Lo & Behold album, by Dean Coulson, McGuiness, Flint, and others, was from publisher's demos, I think, or most of it, anyway. Seems like the Brits jumped on more of the prime goodies than Americans did,initially, although of course Baez did a double-LP of his stuff soon enough (Any Day Now, right?)There were a couple of LPs of demos issued by the old TMQ (Trademark of Quality, with a pig-rubber-stamp as trademark) booters, although mostly they did comps from various sources too (So "Mama" and other demos are with Minnesota apartment tapes, Basement Tapes, Isle of Wight, etc. on the VD Waltz comp; I've never heard a whole album of demos, alas.)In some cases, it was a matter of just having too much stuff, not wanting to flood the market, and/or what he did last month too different from this month's, and this month, it's time for an album! Then in 70s, not wanting the 60s overflow to wash away the later stuff; plus, when he finally did a legit version of Basement Tapes, and it did well, he was surprised:"I thought everybody already had that!" The boots were popular and well-enough known, he prb thought legit issues would increase pressure by being seen as potboilers, at that point, even f they didn't upstage, so either way, they were a problem, until he needed the money and the cred bad enough, and had by that time become enough of a Historical Landmark that the Bootleg Series seemed only right and proper. Thing is, though, hearing the tracks left off the 70s-80s stuff, in favor of some of the crappier items that did make the cut, really show how unsure of himself he can be, for all the Bardic charisma, etc. So, in that respect, the songs of his fabled past are *still* a problem for his sense of credibility, which is why they've been so carefully rationed (still tons of things; it'll be like Hendrix and Trane and Miles issues, only moreso, cause more songs, not just 9000 versions of 900 songs)But basically, questions of judgement/crediblity are part of his history too, not so much of an issue (if he makes another bad album, and he will, big deal, cos the song-suply'll never end, til the world does, and when it does, his stuff will spill over to somewhere:the good, bad, great, and meh;I can see it, the probability of that now, even while this thought ends.)

don, Friday, 7 October 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

Regarding "She's Your Lover Now," the Dylan Scrapbook released in conjuction with No Direction Home has a lyric sheet for that tune. I'm not sure if the sheet is made to look authentic, or if it's a replica of the original, but the lyrics end where the song on the second Bootleg disc ends.
I always had the impression that the wheels just fell off, and that the song was meant to be longer.

Jason Dent (jason dont), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

"you, you just sit around and ask for ashtrays... can't you REACH?"

100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

"blind willie mctell" is very close to being his best performance, if not his best song, ever.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

It is Don't Look Back that is in the box at the work where we work, not No Direction Home. I watched a couple of minutes last night before deciding that it was best to wait till my karma had reached its optimum level and then watch it.

Listened to some Live 64, did not think much of it really. But I shall persevere.

Crawl Out Your Window is on Biograph, I think, Pinefox. Should you wish, I could copy it for you when I rescue it from "storage". I also have a J. Hendrix version recorded for the BBC Light Programme.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

yeah crawl out your window is on biograph but it's a a sub-par version--i'm talking specifically about the glockenspiel version. the one on biograph is a little laid-back, but the glockenspiel version is really energetic and crazy. when he launches into the third chorus he does one of those soulful nasal whines that only dylan can do.

glockenspiel!

naturemorte, Friday, 7 October 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

"House Carpenter" (Is this a cover or an original? It's become one of my Dylan favorites)

It's a cover - it's a ridiculously old trad song. A great version is on Harry Smiths' Anthology of American Folk Music.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't know the glockenspiel version.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

"blind willie mctell" is very close to being his best performance, if not his best song, ever.

seconded; amazing song/performance, totally spellbinding

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

Although the 3rd disc of Bootleg Series 1-3 is kind of throwaway

Madness. I can't really say if it's the best disc but it's definitely the one I've listened to most. 'Foot of Pride','Every Grain', 'Blind Willie McT', 'Angelina', 'Seven Days' = throwaway??

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

"Well, God is in heaven
And we all want what's his
But power and greed and corruptible seed
Seem to be all that there is"

So classsssssic.
Also turned me on to "St James Infirmary", from which the melody is lifted. Checl out Bobby Blue Bland's version if you have the chance.

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

crawl out your window is great, indeed ! (and yeah, the glockenspiel version is best).
it's easily amongst my favorite bob's trax.
guess i'm ready to grab the latest bootleg series now !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

I almost started this thread myself after doing a search for it last week! Surprised one did not exist til now, thx for starting.

Vol. 1-3 I heard before a lot of the albums, and it's the thing that made me obsessive about Dylan. Had a 90 cassette of tracks, mostly discs 1 & 2, that I completely wore out that summer and beyond. It started with "Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie". Upon hearing the original version of say "If Not For You" without the "Ready George?" and a certain wobbly reckless energy of a lot of the tracks on 1-3, the originals sounded rather polished or staid. "Santa Fe" is another good example. Even "Idiot Wind" at the end of Vol. 2 is more biting and mean than the album vers.

Vol. 4 opened my eyes in a big way to the pre-'66 material, as I'm sure it did for a lot of people. I actually prefer disc 1, particularly the devestatingly sad "Desolation Row" and Dylan's expressive harp playing thoughout. Almost like he's testing the audience with his harp playing, similar in aggression to part 2 "Play it fucking loud". I find the guitar playing on disc 1 tattered, like he means it, it all fits the mood nicely.

Vol. 5 I bought when it came out and only listened a handful of times. Need to return to it. I remember it sounding very punk rock, though.

Vol. 6 is the 1964 disc, right? Never bought that.

Vol. 7 don't have yet.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

about she's your lover now--i thought the scrapbook lyrics sheet was weird too--because there IS a last verse. He sings it on the solo piano outtake of the song--which has yet to see official release. anyone who loves that song oughtta seek it out, though. it's incredible--extremely slow and wasted-sounding. with the release of the latest bootleg series, this is probably the major remaining outtake to remain officially unreleased.

but anyway, i love the bootleg series' one and all, but part of me wishes that Dylan (or Columbia) would do like Elvis Costello and just reissue the albums each with a bonus disc of outtakes/live stuff/etc. Of course they just did that big SACD reissue series a few years ago, so that's unlikely to happen any time soon.

tylerw, Friday, 7 October 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Seek out: Lou Reed's cover of "Foot of Pride."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Ah, there are two ways of doing this: a "Bootleg" series, and 'extra disc'..

The fall reissues have an extra disc, but as they mostly have Peel sessions, they are pointless if you have that "Ah, the Fall Peel Sessions box set, you guys" set.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

curious about that she's your lover now piano outtake...
there's another "song" i've been wondering about : it's a tune he plays on accoustic guitar at the end of "eat the document".
is this a proper song ? a demo ? a cover ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

that's "i can't leave her behind". as far as i know, that's the only recording of the song. but it's amazing--vocally one of Dylan's most tender moments. You can get an mp3 of that (and the she's your lover now outtake and a whole bunch more) at http://members.aol.com/eggrert1/mp3.html.

tylerw, Friday, 7 October 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

yeah, his singing, the melody, the guitar playing... beautiful indeed. so it's a song of his, then ? incredible that didn't get released !?
anyway, thanks !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

yeah it's one of his. the story goes that him and Robbie Robertson would stay up all night on the 1966 UK tour writing dozens of new songs--and then the next day neither one could remember them.

tylerw, Friday, 7 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

I am still working my way through 1-3 in order. Slowly. I am now halfway through 'You Changed My Life'.

Latest discoveries:

'Tangled Up In Blue' - a centrepiece of the set to me when I first heard it - is it in E, and the LP version in G?

'Call Letter Blues' is doing more for me than before: some poignancy in the words.

I have never loved 'Idiot Wind' but am now impressed by the relative tenderness of this (NYC?) version as vs the LP.

The bootleg 'If You See Her' is a lot better than the LP's, surely.

Is 'Golden Loom' the first time Bob and Emmylou H sang together? Assuming it's her.

It's funny how that is country, then 'Catfish' is blues. I have always thought 'Catfish' kind of unimportant, but actually I like the depth of its sound, the reverb around those slides and harmonicas.

Is the barking dog the reason that this 'Every Grain of Sand' was not used? I like this song a lot considering that it's religious.

The whole set is an amazing way to take a rapid-fire time-tour through Dylan's career, hearing the flavour of one year (those Desirous violins) for a track or two before the next sound comes along.

the bobfox, Friday, 7 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh, yes - 'Nobody 'Cept You' IS good, isn't it: oddly it sounds to me like the Rolling Thunder sound, though it predates it.

Unlike PJM, I like Live 1964 a lot.

This glockenspiel rumour remains mysterious to me.

But christ, so many great things: 'Barbed Wire Fence', 'Train To Cry', '... Go Now' on bootleg 2. Peerless!

the bobfox, Friday, 7 October 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

yah the box set has the next night.

https://www.flaggingdown.com/p/a-show-by-show-listening-guide-to

a (waterface), Friday, 20 September 2024 13:09 (one year ago)

On a lunch break quickie, just listened to some of 20-track The 1974 Live Recordings Sampler on Spotify, starting with several of the songs not on Down In The Flood, where they would have fit for sure, incl. startling speediness, though no bellowing here, and every word comes through: "Something There Is About You," "Wedding Song" (unabashed and bashing, guitar like bongos near the end, but not too loud, for me, anyway), "The Ballad of Hollis Brown" I'm tempted to call proto-rap, but in '74 terms, it's got that Waylon Jennings-associated marching "eat-shit" tempo---with incisive guitaRR fills x flying words--just in case we got a little too happy with that, next up is "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll," just a tad slower, pain of imagery coming through, solo guitar again strong but not too loud---and having acoustic and electric renditions back and forth, track to track is part of the very effective zig-zag sequencing here, also incl. subsets of idiosyncratic love ballads and other things whisked away like layers ov table cloths.
Mind you, a lot of Down In The Flood's staples, "Watchtower" etc., are on here as well, from whatever nights and venues---but damn.

dow, Friday, 20 September 2024 19:31 (one year ago)

Stupid Amazon (I know I know, but I got a birthday gift card that was the only reason I could afford this thing in the first place) bumped the delivery of my box set out like 3 weeks.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 September 2024 19:35 (one year ago)

thanks, Dow! that sounds great. wonder where my Third Man order is.

bulb after bulb, Friday, 20 September 2024 19:37 (one year ago)

FYI, while I was digging for updates about my shipping, I saw folks on reddit saying that Third Man said they'll be shipping theirs out within the next two weeks.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 September 2024 20:05 (one year ago)

thanks! may break down and stream.

bulb after bulb, Friday, 20 September 2024 20:08 (one year ago)

Not a perfect recording - I'm guessing a cassette recording and it has some distortion in spots - but at least it's a soundboard recording and not an audience recording from far away.

Hopefully they have a tape of the following night's performance that's equally good if not better. For my money, that may be the best live rendition of this song he's ever done.

I'll have to take that back - now that I can hear him more clearly on this soundboard recording, it's clear he flubs quite a few words, so it's a shakier performance, but the song's third performance (at the early show on Jan. 6 at the Spectrum in Philly) sounds like the best one. Still a soundboard cassette with some annoying distortion in one spot, but Dylan sounds even more vulnerable and exposed and just nails it - worthy of being deemed a master take had they ran a multitrack recorder for this show.

birdistheword, Friday, 27 September 2024 08:00 (one year ago)

This is nice - apparently taken from a U-Matic copy of the broadcast master used by the BBC's Old Grey Whistle Test. Basically it's an official low-generation copy that was sent to another broadcaster elsewhere in the world that leased the program. (It's the same Hard Rain concert video that Dylan originally made for NBC in the U.S.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL5tG4W5wsE

birdistheword, Friday, 27 September 2024 20:29 (one year ago)

two months pass...

The Hard Rain LP wasn't really "soundtrack" of the TV special, as sometimes assumed, but anyway, several keepers: incl. performances from other gigs. but anyway some def. keepers: rangy rockin' "Memphis Blues Again," and even "Lay Lady Lady" (rippling, "Let's take a chaaance, who real-ly cares/something something, let's go up-stairs..."). Non-tentative "Oh Sister" (far better thane-take studio original, which Emmylou said she was quite or maybe totally unfamiliar with), up-tempo with slide guitar "Shelter From The Storm"---

So we've talked on here about Dylan's People intimating that this Series per se may be coming to an end, but I still hold out hope for more expanded reissues of original releases, having for instance just read wiki on the Empire Burlesque sessions--just so many songs along the way; some are still among thee missing:

As Clinton Heylin reports, Dylan recorded in sporadic sessions, as had become his norm, rather than "block-booking studio time" and recording in one concentrated period. The result was "an unprecedented expenditure of" time for recording a Dylan album, from July 1984 to March 1985 (although The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan had been recorded over a similarly long period)
....During one session between July and September 1984 (at the Power Station), Dylan demoed a song called "Go 'Way Little Boy", with Ron Wood and "cowpunk" rockers Lone Justice. Dylan and Wood also played on Lone Justice's version of "Go 'Way Little Boy", which was recorded at the same session and was ultimately released as a B-side to their single "Sweet Sweet Baby (I'm Falling)". A blues number entitled "Oh Baby" was also recorded with the same lineup but has never surfaced.
...despite positive feedback from his peers, Dylan ultimately omitted "New Danville Girl" from Empire Burlesque.
...Around this time, Dylan also revived from the Infidels sessions "Someone's Got a Hold of My Heart". "A song about being torn apart by irreconcilable demands," according to Clinton Heylin, in revision it was stripped of "just about every religious allusion from the original." Dylan retitled it "Tight Connection to My Heart" and set it aside for further overdubbing.

One final song was recorded on March 3, a brand-new composition no more than a few days old. Recorded live-to-tape with no editing, overdubbing or embellishment, "Dark Eyes" was also sequenced as the last song of the album.

"Dark Eyes" features only Dylan on guitar and harmonica. According to earlier interviews and Dylan's autobiography Chronicles, it was written virtually on demand when Arthur Baker suggested something simpler for the album's final track. Dylan liked the idea of closing the album with a stark, acoustic track, particularly when the rest of the album was so heavily produced. However, Dylan didn't have an appropriate song. He returned to his hotel in Manhattan after midnight, and according to Dylan:

"As I stepped out of the elevator, a call girl was coming toward me in the hallway—pale yellow hair wearing a fox coat—high heeled shoes that could pierce your heart. She had blue circles around her eyes, black eyeliner, dark eyes. She looked like she'd been beaten up and was afraid that she'd get beat up again. In her hand, crimson purple wine in a glass. 'I'm just dying for a drink,' she said as she passed me in the hall. She had a beautifulness, but not for this kind of world."

The brief, chance encounter inspired Dylan to write "Dark Eyes", which was quickly recorded without any studio embellishment. It is often quoted for its last chorus: "A million faces at my feet, but all I see are dark eyes."

A number of critics have noted the bizarre sources of inspiration behind some of the songs. As mentioned, some lines were lifted from old Humphrey Bogart pictures, but at least a few were taken from the sci-fi television show Star Trek. Author Clinton Heylin wrote that "one of the best couplets—'I'll go along with the charade / Until I can think my way out' (from "Tight Connection to My Heart")—actually comes verbatim from a Star Trek episode, 'Squire of Gothos'." Some[who?] say this line was originally used in the Humphrey Bogart movie Sahara, though this is erroneous.


much more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_Burlesque

dow, Friday, 20 December 2024 20:51 (one year ago)

sorry, cursor kept jumping around, should have checked more---should be

The Hard Rain LP wasn't really "soundtrack" of the TV special,since it incl. performances from other gigs. but anyway several keepers, such as
and
Non-tentative "Oh Sister" (far better than one-take studio original

dow, Friday, 20 December 2024 20:57 (one year ago)

The O Jays, "Emotionally Yours" (title track of alb)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx5L2mWFwOk

dow, Friday, 20 December 2024 21:07 (one year ago)

Yeah, that's a good one - the O'Jays must really love that song because they cut two different versions of that tune for the album, an "R&B" version and a "gospel" version.

Re: the Bootleg Series, the Springtime in New York mixes for the Empire Burlesque material were great, but it's a little frustrating that only ONE of the master takes was remixed ("Tight Connection"). tbf, the alternate take of "Emotionally Yours" is a better performance than the master take.

birdistheword, Saturday, 21 December 2024 00:07 (one year ago)

Are there any given reasons why Dylan won’t let people access those 1992 Supper Club shows that were recorded and filmed?

beamish13, Saturday, 21 December 2024 00:33 (one year ago)

A version of "Ring Them Bells" showed up on Tell Tale Signs so they're apparently in releasable shape.

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 21 December 2024 02:52 (one year ago)

Dylan was re wording original material with Noel Redding in the early 90’s. None of that appears on any Bootleg sets

beamish13, Saturday, 21 December 2024 03:05 (one year ago)

one month passes...

Bob Dylan has announced his initial batch of 2025 tour dates, featuring a handful of stops in small towns across the midwest.

Billed as a continuation of his “Rough and Rowdy Ways Tour,” the brief run kicks off on March 25th with a previously announced show in Tulsa, Oklahoma (get tickets here), and continues on with dates in Wichita, Kansas; Mankato, Minnesota; and Green Bay, Wisconsin.

https://consequence.net/2025/01/bob-dylan-2025-tour-dates/

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 January 2025 23:01 (one year ago)

"you, you just sit around and ask for ashtrays... can't you REACH?"
― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:41 bookmarkflaglink

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 08:39 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

Alternate take of “Tombstone Blues” from Vol. 7, has some unnecessary backing vocals but excellent guitar fills.

Blind Willie Minitel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 February 2025 03:55 (one year ago)

anytime i listen to "thief on the cross" i imagine it's that famous youtube drummer playing ZZ Top.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 15 February 2025 08:14 (one year ago)

Just heard the “Real Albert Hall” release for the first time. Holy shit, that band.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 20 February 2025 21:43 (one year ago)

Will check it out. Do I need to pay any mind to the acoustic set?

Blind Willie Minitel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 February 2025 22:51 (one year ago)

It's great for contrast. He usually sounds mighty stoned on the 1966 acoustic sets. (Because he is.)

birdistheword, Thursday, 20 February 2025 23:39 (one year ago)

one month passes...

R.I.P. Clem Burke, he actually played with Dylan:

Bob communicated through his music, but we did go to dinner quite a few times. One of the first things that Bob asked me was: 'What happened to Blondie?' I was working with Dave Stewart at that time, and he was like: 'You guys were this big thing. What happened?' I was sitting in the back of a Mercedes between him and Dave Stewart, going to dinner, and I said: ‘One word: drugs.’ And he got it. I had a great time playing with him. I thought we were recording the next Blonde On Blonde. We recorded a lot of stuff. I’ve still got a cassette tape of all the tracks.

Unfortunately, what's been released turned out to be Knocked Out Loaded, and the one great thing on that album was from an earlier set of sessions held for Empire Burlesque.

birdistheword, Monday, 7 April 2025 21:20 (one year ago)

Anyway, posting it here because I wonder if there are any gems on that cassette - it didn't really seem like any made it on to Springtime in New York.

birdistheword, Monday, 7 April 2025 21:21 (one year ago)

some footage of their sessions here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_zn4oHORc8

I imagine a lot of it is like this — maybe not exactly finished songs.

tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2025 21:34 (one year ago)

apparently one song they worked on was called "pipe organ ska" which sounds intriguing haha

tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2025 21:36 (one year ago)

Aw nice! Didn't realize they filmed some of it! (Maybe it was just stuff they're doing for the cameras?) They don't sound bad at all, which makes the resulting album all the more disappointing.

birdistheword, Monday, 7 April 2025 23:17 (one year ago)

four months pass...

The new Bootleg Series looks great pic.twitter.com/cvH7XAOyqr

— Jokermen (@JokermenPodcast) September 4, 2025

the way out of (Eazy), Thursday, 4 September 2025 23:35 (seven months ago)

https://variety.com/2025/music/news/bob-dylan-bootleg-series-through-the-open-window-boxed-set-1236521826/

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 19:37 (six months ago)

wow

sleeve, Wednesday, 17 September 2025 19:49 (six months ago)

TALKIN’ BEAR MOUNTAIN PICNIC MASSACRE BLUES
September 6, 1961 – The Gaslight Cafe, NYC

WANT

sleeve, Wednesday, 17 September 2025 19:50 (six months ago)

I love those early recordings (prominently featured in the latest Heylin iirc) and will listen for sure, but returns are diminishing in this neverending series

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 18 September 2025 06:29 (six months ago)

this is all necessary stuff, but yeah, there's plenty of it that I won't be playing over and over. The Carnegie Hall and Town Hall shows are essential early Dylan, though, it's good that those will be out in full.

tylerw, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:58 (six months ago)

I want to say that there was an insider on the Hoffman forums saying that the series may be winding down and after this there is no strong consensus on what the next box would be.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:37 (six months ago)

kind of feel like they've been saying that for a decade now (maybe not quite that long). there's been talk of Oh Mercy collection, maybe a Rundown studio collection (late 70s/early 80s), the Bromberg Sessions ... but yeah, they're going to run out sometime! Unless it turns out that Bob has been secretly recording entire albums a la Bruce in the last 30 years.

tylerw, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:42 (six months ago)

oh mercy could be great - that "most of the time" acoustic kind of blood on the tracks feeling take that was on tell-tale signs is so great

are there outtakes from the as good as i've been to you/world gone wrong era?

maybe More Empire, More Burlesque for Alfred?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:45 (six months ago)

there are a couple world gone wrong outtakes on tell tale signs — not sure if there are more in the vault? Probably. If so, they'd fit in with the Bromberg Tapes (some of which have come out, but there are apparently a bunch more). There's Burlesque stuff on Springtime in New York, but there might be more stuff from the 85-87 era. This is obviously scraping the barrel a bit haha.

tylerw, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:50 (six months ago)

Wasn’t You Belong To Me from the Natural Born Killers strck an outtake from the GAIBTY/WGW sessions? I remember being appalled at that version and then gradually liking it before I was much of a Bob fan. It would be nice to have a version of that free of dialog/fades.

I bet the boxes start becoming smaller sets.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:08 (six months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eyIZsQSDU0

(a fan edit, but it works!)

tylerw, Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:50 (six months ago)

I want expanded version of s/t debut, mainly for songs that didn't make it to LP, and yeah I know some of them have prob been breadcrumbed here and there, but want them all and all together dammit. Same for all original releases up through um--Desire? An album that needs all the help it can get. I don't mean every take, necessarily (and yes we've already got The Cutting Edge and Springtime in New York) just mainly the master takes of prev unreleased. (I'm thinking twofers, in other words).
Also early live sets in full, and official Minnesota Hotel Tapes, other Dinkytown stuff, and this can be done, with money and Dylan's People, incl lawyers, @ work (like w official Dead release of the Betty Board Cornell set, or the Complete Basement Tapes for that).

dow, Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:41 (six months ago)

Same for all original releases up through um--Desire?
Up through all of 'em, except the Sinatra albums maybe.

dow, Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:43 (six months ago)

are there Love & Theft era outtakes?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 September 2025 20:34 (six months ago)

^^^
I don't see them being as eye opening as the TOOM outtakes, because Lanois wasn't working on L&T drenching everything in swamp gas.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 18 September 2025 21:17 (six months ago)

might be some l&t alternate takes, but I don't think there are missing songs or anything. then again, dylan's alt takes can sometimes sound like entirely different songs.

tylerw, Thursday, 18 September 2025 21:36 (six months ago)

The new box set is frustrating because if they're truly using new and better sources/master tapes we haven't heard before, then legendary recordings like the Gaslight Café performance from Oct. 1962 and the Bonnie Beecher apartment recordings from December 1961 should be heard in their entirety. (At least we're getting Carnegie Hall in presumably a fresh mix - I give that a slight edge over Town Hall, but both are two of his greatest recorded shows ever.) It's already eight CD's so I realize adding more tracks could raise the cost to a large degree, but having these incomplete is still frustrating when this could very well be the final "early" Dylan release for a very long time. I do have the boots but you can tell there's room for improvement: for example, the Starbucks Gaslight CD clearly uses a better master.

birdistheword, Thursday, 18 September 2025 23:19 (six months ago)

maybe More Empire, More Burlesque for Alfred?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown),

hell yeah

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 September 2025 09:29 (six months ago)

wouldn’t it be interesting if they did a series releasing one performance for every year from 1961 onward

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 19 September 2025 13:28 (six months ago)

six months pass...

I never heard the complete alternate full-band Desolation Row on Bootleg Series Vol. 10 (Take 5 Remake, Complete). It lacks some of the existential menace of the acoustic version on the album or the electric version from No Direction Home. The organ and piano sound so jaunty they make Desolation Row sound pretty fun.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 12 April 2026 12:49 (two days ago)

Good backstory to Minnesota Party Tape linked on the thread known only as Dylan.
What are the origins of the 50s tracks in recent box? Another party?

dow, Sunday, 12 April 2026 18:06 (two days ago)

No Direction Home version >>>>>> album version

the full band cutting edge version is interesting but what's al doing on the organ? not a great recording

corrs unplugged, Monday, 13 April 2026 08:12 (yesterday)


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