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Andy Votel's "Vertigo Mixed" cd has made me really curious of this 70s prog/hardrock/folk label. then i recently picked up a Record Collector magazine with the cover story on the label. i've had a few of these records, but lately have gone buckwild finding more of them.

from that mix cd, i figured this was the holy label, hard, weird, funky, but they're way more patchy than i was expecting. i don't hate anything yet, but some of it is underwhelming.

here's what i've picked up so far that i really like:

The first couple Black Sabbath releases
Kraftwerk - Ralf & Florian
Uriah Heep - Very 'eavy. Very 'umble.
Thin Lizzy - Johnny The Fox
Manfred Mann's Earth Band - s/t
Gentle Giant - s/t
Patto - Hold Your Fire

here are the releases that i either haven't really given a chance (ie. i'm downloading way too much music lately) or don't love yet:

Rod Steward - The Rod Stewart Album (aka An Old Raincoat Won't Ever Let You Down)
Ian Matthews - Tigers Will Survive
Affinity - s/t
Frumpy - By the Way
Cressida - Asylum
Beggars Opera - Waters of Change

if anyone has a complete discography list, that'd be amazing. and luckily for me, not being a "collectors collector", a lot of this stuff was also released on Mercury, so i can find the same records for way cheaper.

Bobby Count (jaxon), Thursday, 6 October 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, i also got, but (havent' listened to yet) Clear Blue Sky - s/t & Gracious "This is Gracious".

Bobby Count (jaxon), Thursday, 6 October 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

I've been on the same quest recently. I bought the 3CD Vertigo compilation to figure out what was good. These are the highlights I've found so far:

Gracious! - first two
May Blitz - the second one is a bit better I think
Aphrodite's Child - 666. I avoided this for years, knowing it was Vangelis-related and thinking it would be too new agey.

Colosseum is pretty good but kind of patchy. The Nucleus I've heard is great. Ramases is ok but mostly interesting because it's the 10cc guys.

I definitely want to hear Jimmy Campbell - Half Baked because the title track is really great.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

This is not really a discography but it's a nice site to look at a bunch of the covers. I haven't heard the Dr. Strangely Strange album that's on Vertigo but I have their first album and it's a pretty good Incredible String Band ripoff. I also forgot about Keith Tippett - Dedicated to you, but which is nice fusion stuff IIRC and Graham Bond - We Put Our Magick on You which I seem to remember being great. Sabbath, Gentle Giant and some of the other better known stuff is of course classic.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

I forgot the link... http://www.rock-records.de/Vertigo/vertigo.html

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

you need to check out some Deram/Deram Nova album releases. the two labels have much in common

jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

TS: Denny Lethargy VS. Denny Vertigo

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

i love magna carta. and may blitz were cool. Half-Baked is a *GREAT* album. if you are a *Misunderstood* completist than you need the Juicy Lucy records. I dig Ian Matthews, but maybe not his Vertigo album. Some stuff I have U.S. copies of and I forget that they were on the label. For instance, my copy of Seasons by Magna Carta is on Dunhill. I think. Some of those albums are also really really hard to find and way expensive. I heart jade Warrior too. Especially the first three albums. Ah, I could go on for days. It's all worth hearing. Even if only once.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

there is a cool 3-cd set with the first three(? i think) magna carta albums on it. i still want that cuz i know i haven't heard one of them.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

If only Denny had the opportunity to get his Lethargy Records imprint off the ground before his tragic death.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

Half-Baked is a *GREAT* album.

What is it like? The song Half-Baked starts out with that great downer folk vibe but then it starts rocking out. Does the album mostly rock out or is there any more of the mellow baked stuff?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

it's just beautiful. the instrumentation, the arrangements, the songs, everything. i wrote this about it for that mix-tape thing that i wrote a while back:


Jimmy Campbell – “In My Room” – I don’t even know if Jimmy’s Half Baked album on Vertigo is rated, let alone under or over or sidewaysdownrated by Mojologically-inclined historians of post-mod squad baroque pop, and I don’t really know if there is anything I can do –singlehandedly- to remedy this situation, nor do I know whether I even feel up to the task. My new motto, when I’m in my cups, is: “Screw it. I’ve got a copy.” Let them eat Badfinger. Or Eric Carmen. Or Al Stewart for all I care. I dig and I dig until I can’t dig anymore. I climb thru windows. I get down on my knees. I go thru the mold and muck of forgotten cellars. I reach out and up. My hands -literally- bleeding to find a piece of that sweet soothing sound that my dreams are not only infested with, soaked in, trembling within, but that my very soul requires to make light of the fear-crazed eyes I have seen in the past. In hospital beds. On the streets. In the mirror. “In My Room” is great. And not to be confused with Fatty Sandbox’s pity party of the same name.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, that's great Scott. I'm on the lookout now.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

What was the deal with Vertigo? They were a UK prog label and Mercury licensed some of their records for US release? Is that how Mercury got Kraftwerk?

Fairfield Parlour's Home to Home (basically the third Kaleidoscope album, and really good) was on Vertigo, but I would guess it was only a UK release.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

Vertigo was the "underground" imprint of Phillips like Harvest was to EMI. The only Kraftwerk on Vertigo AFAIK was the double LP that repackaged the first two albums. Actually they might have put out Ralf & Florian as well but I'm not sure. Anyway, were those albums ever available on a US label?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I have a US pressing of Ralf and Florian on Vertigo/Mercury ("also available on Musicassette and Stereo 8 Track Tape"). I think Mercury put it out after "Autobahn" became a bit of a hit (it's got a copyright date of '75 on it).

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 7 October 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

The pressing of Autobahn I have is a repress that's just on Mercury, but it says, "originally released on Vertigo as VEL-2003." That copy of Ralf and Florian that I have is VEL-2006.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 7 October 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I didn't know they were still on Vertigo for Autobahn. I had assumed it was just the early stuff.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

Don't miss out on Sensational Alex Harvey or some Barclay James Harvest or the mighty Babe Ruth. A lot of the first where is the LOVE threads were devoted to Vertigo sort of prog bands, as I recall. Sadly, some of the love was missing.

George the Animal Steele, Friday, 7 October 2005 05:18 (twenty years ago)

shit, i didn't realize Autobahn was on vertigo. i actually have two copies of it, one on vertigo and one Warner. totally different covers too. the front cover of the vertigo one has the dashboard with the boys in the mirror, but it's missing on the other copy.

I FUCKING LOVE BABE RUTH, but i don't think they were on Vertigo. amg says they were on Harvest or One Way. i think they might need their own thread soon.

i also have that Fairfield Parlour album, but am totally torn. at first i thought it was too cute, but the more i listen to it, the more it grows on me.

and i listened to "This is Gracious" today and IT'S FUCKING AMAZING. the first song suite (20minutes long) has everything i've ever hoped a song would have. weirdo sound effects, gnarly blood pumping heavy proto-metal, proggy chops, folk, funk, organ, choirs.

Bobby Count (jaxon), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

Definitely listen to the first Gracious then. I think it's a little bit better than the 2nd and it's the source of 2 or 3 of the best bits on that Vertigo mix. I haven't heard any Babe Ruth apart from "The Mexican" but I take it the whole album is that good?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

oh man, babe ruth... i bought the greatest hits a few months ago. at first i thought they sounded like a mix of Heart & Janis Joplin. they had way less prog and funk than i thought they would from just hearing The Mexican. but something made me keep listening to it. finally i heard the entire first album and it realy was as proggy and as funky and as soulful as i'd expected. it's really great. i haven't listened to the full second album yet because all the songs so far were on the greatest hits.

walter, did you DL that High Rise from that grammy.ru link i gave you? it's really heavy and pretty rad. the singer does sound a lot like jim morrison though. anyways, you can find a ton of these albums at that site

Bobby Count (jaxon), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh, you mean High Tide? I couldn't get the downloads on that site to work for some reason but I should check it out again.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

yeah, high tide. hah. high rise is the japanese band, huh?

anyways, you need to click the individual songs >> and then right click the floppy disc icon and save to desktop. it'll save as a php document, but then change the extension to mp3 and it should play. it's sorta convoluted, but it works and they have tons of great shit on there.

Bobby Count (jaxon), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I had/have the Fairfield Parlour album. (sold the orig way back).

"In my box" is proto-Wire. You check this.
"I will always feel the same" is a 'hit ballad' that sounds like it was recorded in half an hour and the singer sounds arsed. In a good way.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

DANNY VERTIGO LOL GEDDIT??

lol, Friday, 7 October 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

Hold on, wasn't "Stella" by Yello on Vertigo??!?!! In, what, 1985?

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

Well, yeah but by then it was more a label of convenience. Status Quo, Graham Parker, and so on.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

Unlike you mark, i don't have any Status Quo albums from the mid-80s (ouch!)

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

Mid 80s they got kicked out to "Mercury" I believe.

"Paper Plane" is great, the rest you can have.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

You got them in the right order

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

All the Vertigo albums I've got have only got the Roger Dean-style label :(

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

I got the Kraftwerk double on ebay a month ago, swirly.

Suspiciously cheap.

Suspiciously non-gatefold sleeve.

Suspiciously brand new pressing.

Sounds fine, though. I did have the orig, but on the 'spaceship' label. Note: Ruckzeug had two false endings on the one I had, one on "Suck it and see" compilation, and none on this new version.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

Which Vertigo albums do you have, Dada?

Apart from the black sabbath albums, which are obv k-classic, It's a bit spotty, just like deram nova & harvest, but perhaps a bit better overall? "Gracious!" and Cressida "Asylum" are my favourites.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Jesus, I can't remember. "Autobahn". I think none of my Vertigo albums are very memorable.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

vertigo released a lot of great jazz stuff too.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Jade Warrior RULES!

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

I think I'd like "Mwenga Sketch" more now than I did then...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 October 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

well bought Status Quo's "Hello!" and wasn't really my cup of tea. kinda spacey blues rock, but not out enough for what i spent on it (luckily returned the record for 75% credit).

just started listening to the Tudor Lodge album and so far, it's pretty fucking rad. if the only vocals on it were that high pitched, super vibrato, folky, female singing voice, i probably wouldn't love it. but the close male/female harmony singing really is great. it gives it a nice soft-pop free design type sound.

there really are a lot more records on the label than i realized. Stormy gave me a copy of Buffalo's "Volcanic Rock" that's pretty thudtastic. i've said it before, but early soundgarden sounds exactly like this record.

Dickset! Dickset! Disckset! (jaxon), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:LLbt-83_WLkJ:www.vandergraafgenerator.co.uk/pawnhearts/aerosol_vertigo_label2.jpg http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:Ws2DhDeUkj0J:www.my-generation.org.uk/vert2.jpg

so, is the difference between these stickers when the label stopped being called vertigo swirl and started being called vertigo spaceship (or however people refer to them?)

Dickset! Dickset! Disckset! (jaxon), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

RE: 1st 2 Kraftwerk LPs on 1 double:

Mark, I'm pretty sure non-gatefold means it's a repro/counterfeit. I have the same record and it is gatefold, seems unlikely that there would have been a different edition.

(xpost)

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I think collectors only want the swirly labels which leaves all of the rad Roger Dean UFOs for people who actually want to listen to the music.
xpost

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)

As cool as those LP labels are, it starts to feel really baseball-card-y when you talk about that stuff doesn't it?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

i reapeat what i said in the first post: luckily for me, not being a "collectors collector", a lot of this stuff was also released on Mercury, so i can find the same records for way cheaper.

Dickset! Dickset! Disckset! (jaxon), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

and also, i found a few sites with all of these records for download. it's pretty fucking amazing, but i'm kind of on music overload lately :-|

Dickset! Dickset! Disckset! (jaxon), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

Here's more overload for you...
May Blitz - s/t

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

fucking hell! thanks man.

now if i could only get the Juicy Lucy & Gravy Train albums.

Dickset! Dickset! Disckset! (jaxon), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

May Blitz - The 2nd of May

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost to Sleeve, yeah I know, I had an original "spaceship" one back in the day. These were on e-bay, along with a "Organisation" LP that didn't have anything like a RCA label on it.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)


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