trelik + ifach : c/d?

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partly because of all the jabber about "what is minimal", partly because i have been listening to baby ford's "bad friday" and tan ru's "changeling" a lot lately (and also repeat's "g-thing" and mark broom's "angie is a shoplifter LP" but that's a slightly difft thread) and partly because it's the point where "minimal" intersects w/ "dreamy utopian ambient techno" (those hippy-dippy titles like "eco tourist" and "tales from the reefer barn" and "changeling" and "magelonic" ... obv also lot of oldschool psy-trance influence (in the planet dog / noom / synewave / goa sense along w/ the usual detroit-centric windswept rainy modernism)

also partly i just want to see a show of hands of who still cares / ever cared about this kind of thing

vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 October 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

love 'em. i was just going thru some mix cds and happened upon the trelik comp. i think the ifach mix is my favorite. "dead eye" is the one track that always stands out to me because it has that positively eerie string/synth line that i associate with uk techno or late night clubbing in tunnel-like structures. :)

tricky (disco stu), Friday, 7 October 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

nope sorry you only got into the track with richie's dex fx & 909 you are not true techno listener like me better luck last time.

eon, Friday, 7 October 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

it's one of the highlights of that mix!!

the way baby ford works with beats pretty much takes my head off every time. the way he uses space is phenomenal, kind of like an inverse basic channel.

tricky (disco stu), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

some friends of mine and i have a long running joke that basically amounts to another friend feeling inadequately cool or something and blurting out, "goddamn it, tivo, i am deep house!!"

it still makes me laugh to this day.

tricky (disco stu), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

ok that's one for and one against

vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

I still play Eggs Is Eggs (Ford on Ifach#13) ! And his remix of Florence/Stefan Robbers' "The Vineyard" on Eevo Lute is a classic.

Broom I thought was good as Rue East on Pure Plastic (esp.#4) and I loved the Midnight Funk Associaton stuff too. I don't detect the "oldschool psy-trance influence" that much (and I'd rather keep it that way).

blunt (blunt), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

nope sorry you only got into the track with richie's dex fx & 909 you are not true techno listener like me better luck last time.
-- eon (eo...), October 6th, 2005 8:57 PM.

ps i own a copy of this

vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 October 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

oh wow, what are the juan atkins remixes like?

tricky (disco stu), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

you wouldn't know they were juan unless someone told you.

they are ... slower ... and less ravey. sort of like mid-period model 500 - imagine "ocean to ocean" w/ a heavy early-UR belgian rave influence.

they are NOT the lost undiscovered early infiniti tracks i was hoping they'd be

vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

i have had 3 ifach 12" in the pile for years ... cant remember last time i played them .. completely forgot about em till this thread ..

ifach7, 8 and 9.

no idea who was behind these releases. ta for kicking me up the proverbial .. looking forward to rediscovering these now ..

mark e (mark e), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

99% of that shit = permutations of peter ford + ian loveday + mark broom + dave hill

ifach 7 = broom + hill
ifach 8 = ford + broom
ifach 9 = broom + hill

if you haven't already, GO HERE

http://music.hyperreal.org/bford/ifach/

AND HERE

http://music.hyperreal.org/bford/trelik/

gorgeous shit ... what the internets was designed for, to uplift and educate, in much the same sense that CSPAN + PBS + BBC = what TV is in its highest incarnation (dreamy modernist utopianism alert!)

vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

yeah i found that stuff on hyperreal after reading the thread
.. thats what spun me.

cant wait to get the woman out of the house and drop these on the deck.

(no techno while my wife is in residence .. she hates it)

gotta love that logo as well.

mark e (mark e), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

i don't have much ifach, and most of what i've bought i only bought in the last couple years, but everything i've got is brilliant. i was happy to pick up that m-core release (#21) just a few weeks ago, actually. i dont' remember baird remo with any specificity but i remember loving it when i got it years ago. on trelik, i've got a few minimal mans and the soul capsules, and i still play them, esp the soul capsule.

but then i'm probably melchior's biggest hype machine, at least in english, so color me biased.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, and "check your buddha" - forgot that's trelik. fucking classic.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

finally my tastes are re-converging with vahid! i feel vindicated, or something. :)

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

anyone want to recommend more stuff like "make a move"? on other labels is fine too

Ronan, Friday, 18 January 2008 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

how about tresor artist sender berlin?

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 18 January 2008 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

or on a very obvious tip, those "baby ford + the ifach collective" albums? especially the one on klang?

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 18 January 2008 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

i actually tracked down an ifach compilation of the first 10 12" only last year. really fantastic stuff.
not got the baby ford + ifach collective release yet though.
no doubt by the time this thread is revived in another 2 years i will.

mark e, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

the baby ford + ifach collective doesn't sound like make a move

resolved, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

no?

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

if i recall, make a move is a zippy, tightly coiled house track with quite hooky vocals. the klang album (at least the 2x12") is dry, spare, bassy techno.

resolved, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

i suppose i've heard them in such different contexts (make a move exclusively in clubs, the album exclusively at home) that i could be wrong tho. i'd count the distinctive vocal loops as an integral part of 'make a move' though.

resolved, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

ok but on a rhythmic level i think its pretty similar. it's got that very monotone, tightly looped pure plastic thing going on.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

OK to be fair there's a lot of stuff on pure plastic that sounds like jeff-mills-by-the-number or even worse like ben sims knockoffs but they've also got that side like, i dunno, mark broom + baby ford's "bubble bath" EP.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, you're right there. make a move's surface embellishments just give it a lot more character. xp

resolved, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

i realize it's rather weak to follow up "what sounds like minimal man" with "baby ford" but that track just sort of screams baby ford at me. it's that burbling monotone 4x4 thing. badump bump bump badump bump bump badump bump bump. like being stuck in a whale's belly while it has heart palpitations or something.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

by the way, i said "sender berlin" but now i realize that sender records (the german one unrelated to sender berlin w/ artists like misc.) might have been an even better answer.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno, Sender is often trancier for me, "Make A Move" doesn't have enough of any kind of flavour to be trance or any other distinct genre really. As you said it's really monotone, all the melodies are sort of implied in tiny slivering echos/vibrations of the bassline.

Ronan, Sunday, 20 January 2008 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

ten months pass...

dug this album up again

http://static.boomkat.com/images/60623/333.jpg

fucking superb

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

i got a few more months before my 2 years is up to get that.
weirdly due to the inclusion of an ifach track on the forthcoming tejada fabric mix i tried last week, but so far no luck.

mark e, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 16:18 (seventeen years ago)

i t is better now than the last time i listened to it. it's up there w/ mike ink albums, if not in terms of invention then at least in terms of sheer quality of thumping, metallic motorik minimal.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 16:29 (seventeen years ago)

.. in terms of sheer quality of thumping, metallic motorik minimal.

i need this all the more now.

mark e, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 16:35 (seventeen years ago)

check out the track "sugarspoon" first

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

yes, I should have bought this when I had the chance...

mmmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 00:10 (seventeen years ago)

i think it just got a re-release!

tricky, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 00:31 (seventeen years ago)

so it has!

mmmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

Re-issue of dead eye on plus 8 should be arriving at my house any day now. . . (the make a move repress wasn't in stock :( )

This time, or I'll perc you later (mehlt), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

dead eye is good.

that song on a freebie compilation I got when I ordered a pizza. (Display Name), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

oh man, never found a copy of ifach vol 1 and probably never will again for any reasonable price. =(

at least there are still copies of the trelik comp floating around for good prices.

(what exactly was the difference between ifach and trelik? floor music vs experimental music?)

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

actuallly maybe that should be vice versa

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

that ifach comp is a total classic. i always thought trelik was more functional and strict whereas ifach played with your head a bit more so yeah i think it's the other way around. some of the ifach tracks are straight-up spooky hardcore breaks though (solcyc "tales from the reefer barn" heh). check this out!!

tricky, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:43 (seventeen years ago)

sickness

or maybe the line is more trelik is "housey", ifach more techno?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 04:05 (seventeen years ago)

it's kinda odd to say the house imprint is more reduced than the techno imprint, but i think you are right.

tricky, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 04:20 (seventeen years ago)

early trelik: reduced analog techno. later trelik (especially soul capsule): HOUSE. iIIRC the trelik comp that is on cd is all techno.

tricky, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 04:29 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

the bside to this is one of the best things i've heard on ifach

http://www.discogs.com/Voyectra-Charm/release/43177

relentless electrical storm acid w/ dreamy chords

train wreck (r1o natsume), Monday, 10 May 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

would i be right in thinking a lot of these guys were industrial/ebm heads in the 80s?

train wreck (r1o natsume), Monday, 10 May 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

Ech, I nearly got a copy of the Monolense EP by Baby Ford for $2 a week ago, but it went to someone else :( For curiousity I looked on discogs, the cheapest it was going for was 30 Euros.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

i feel your pain! kinda crazy how cheap these records can be had for though atm, apart from a couple on trelik like the eon and soul capsule ones and monolense on ifach which go for stupid money -- so much great music as well, i've yet to be less than excited by anything on ifach

train wreck (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)


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