Music and Skateboarding.

And in Vancouver it's really more of a sponsored by skateboarding so you can trade your products for heroin, to and keep on urinating in apartments, i.e. Sam Delvin in current times. That is if your actually talking about heroin addicts.

after i read this:

There was this rapper I was sprung on, I think I heard him on Epitonic

i decided i cannot post in this thread.

punk/indie rock in skate videos opened so many more doors to me as a youth.

-- cutty (holle...), October 11th, 2005.

otm!

BEWARE HE'S POSSESSED TO SKATE !!

Thank you,

CURVIN SWERVIN JUST LIKE A MESSAGE BOARDER

I'd like more techno/electronic music in skate videos!! Or something else way off the usual map.

Ok, there is Transworld & a lot of tolerance for atmospheric, ambienty 'mood' stuff (to accompany slow motion death lense shots & intros etcetera) but...

my Come-On-Stay-Black alarm *cough* you do realise there are black skateboarders too?? No excuse for wack rhymes of course, but well, that sentence is setting off some alarms for me!

I can imagine Wu Tang blowing minds for some kids as much as (if not in quite the same way) as punk/indie rock tbh.

i just prefer when videos give it a bit more of a "this is our local scene feel." Music can/should be used to enhance this more often than it is I think.

big disclaimer here: I've barely seen a skate vid in the last year or so, and not any big company ones at that. As long as parts still aren't actually being soundtracked by what the general populace/MTV/non-skating emo kids & their observers/parents thinks is "skate rock" (and which is very much not the '80's version of that label, I'm happy).

Hip Hop in video parts is entertaining when it meshs/snycs with the flow in tech skating parts (what isn't tech these days!). But I just feel crippled trying to skate to it myself. I'm not that smooth or skilled unfortunately.

"other musics relation to skateboarding"

TOTALLY GENERALISING there is a broadly typical use of certain genres like so:

hip-hop/beats = tech, street, little danger of imminent death skateboard parts/vids/companies (Chocolate/Girl).

rock/metal/et al = big, gnarly, nuts-to-handrails, risk of death faced down daily for a career parts/vids/companies (Zero, Toy Machine).

UGH. go to bed.

In 1988 and 1989, I was at that age when you're old enough to go out on your own, but too young to have a job or any real responsibility. Every single Saturday was spent watching Yo! MTV Raps at 10am, skateboarding all day, and playing Super Mario Brothers all night.

I haven't skated in a while now, but I still think about it all the time. And I still love Black Flag, the Dead Kennedys, the Misfits, Eric B & Rakim, Ice-T, PE, and all the other stuff I used to listen to all the time while skating.

if you want profound and useful, click on one of the 79,768,098,554,743 marissa marchant threads on ILM. ideas a-plentee therr

Re: Come On Stay Black comment - there are a FEW but they still get hassled by the hessian(ish) crowd eg. the Corey Duffel incident and some get special treatment for the blackness eg. Harold Hunter who sucks shit - hey BTW Cutty WHY shoudlnt there be rap in skate videos, if I'm the hater here? Best soundtrack was from Chomp On This, then That's Life for recent shit - btw fuck Transworld videos.

Look, my MAIN POINT was that rappers with skaters in videos or who rap about skating seem pussy to me even though I don't mind it working in reverse. THAT S RACIST

Ed Templeton is responsible for inspiring the laziest 'scene' artists ever who scam throught life and credibility by rocking the 'retard with a crayon' steez. There are thousands of them making a living off this and it is all skateboardings fault.

IM SORRY

Yeah, I think Transworld kinda advanced the form of the skate video on some levels... but it got old, predictable and much less to do with the actual skating FAST. I think it became detrimental in the end. But then more videos came out & everyone got on with fun again.

"Special Treatment" is kinda a red-flag comment still, or am I just overly being PC? There are any number of skateboarders whose rep is inflated when compared with how good they actually are, white and black alike. Or maybe I'm not sure what exact incident you're referring to here. I'm not up to speed on scene/industry gossip AT ALL these days.

The "hessian(ish)" crowd, and that sort of groupthink is probably the side of skating that pisses me off most these days. Saying that... I live in the UK. It's different here! I can't say I think of skating being in any way racially divided at all.

I haven't (than god) experienced this "can't go for a piss without someone sticking a DC sticker on your cock" level of complete sports-lifestyle saturation as probably exists in Vancouver, or Huntingdon Beach.

I agree there's a cringe factor about skating lyrics, not sure race is really anything to do with it though, usually just because they're lazy attempts at grabbing some kind of 'cred' with imaginary kids who might find it impressive (in reality, probably nobody)... I mean I cringed first time I heard "sk8er boi" although not half as much as with "heaven is a halfpipe"!

Going against the grain and calling out homophobia & creeping corporate (ok, total at this point) co-option in the skate industry is something I'm always gonna respect. And giving Elissa Steamer* (and girls generally) an inroad to better inclusion into stakeboarding.

*p.s. pre-emptively, please don't give me any crap about positive discrimination, she wasn't the first, or the best, and of course there are girls killing it now better than she ever did. I still think it needed doing badly.

I wish I could make a living as a crappy artist and spend my free time skating!! Maybe I should give him a call.

I've seen some really bad videos since, where they just seem to randomly slap rap over the top of a part because they like the track, rather than it fitting it in any way.

What new(ish), well put together, videos would somebody reccomend to me, baring in mind the last one I really saw was that Girl video. Yeah Right.

On another note, nobody's mentioned that old Rhythm video that was all techno: DID. NOT. WORK.

i didn't like placebo till i heard "every me, every you" in this video.

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