― Bebop, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)
― jz, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)
"We thought it wasn't possible, but Cat Power just keeps getting sexier. Chan Marshall's forthcoming album, The Greatest, (due January 26 on Matador), continues the trend of her guest turn on Handsome Boy Modeling School's "I've Been Thinking", turning the indie rock chanteuse into a simmering Southern diva. Listen to her purr and just try not to want to make babies.
As previously reported, The Greatest was recorded at Ardent Studios in Memphis, Tennessee, with a murderer's row of veteran session musicians, including members of the Hi and Stax Records house bands. The record is steeped in the R&B and country traditions, with lots of horns and thick, smoky grooves."
Sounds good to me.
― Brock! (Brock!), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)
― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)
"I'm a busy man so I haven't checked yet" - Texas guy on the Simpsons
― Roger, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)
There's an mp3 of the title track here (as well as an album-cover I'm not exactly sold on). I can't listen to it till this evening, but you're all welcome to tell me if it's good or not.
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)
(in answer to the thread question)
― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)
ew, that pink.
― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)
― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)
― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Sunday, 6 November 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)
― Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Sunday, 6 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 7 November 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)
― I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Monday, 7 November 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)
I like the Morningwood album more.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 7 November 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)
― sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 7 November 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 November 2005 03:56 (twenty years ago)
Don't you think that might have died out for a reason?
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)
Everything's very rosy-posy and superficial... prettily dancing around while Chan sings these lines full of longing. The contrast works great at first but gets really tiring after a few songs.
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 7 November 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)
― I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 7 November 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)
------combined into one (or chosen at random even) that latter's by far the best option! Oh combat! She plays better on her own, so yeah
― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Monday, 7 November 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)
With "The Greatest", I think Chan finally has the support and the arrangements that her songs have been begging for. In other words, I have the polar opposite view of this record that Sean Gramophone has.
I think it's Chan's way of kissing "indie" goodbye, and flowering into this 21st century songstress that the world truly needs. But I'll wait until the new Beth Orton - she could possibly trump this. The new Edith Frost is pretty stunning too.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)
Has this actually leaked, then? I've heard about half of it, and it does in fact sound pretty great.
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)
The last one was her strongest album, I think, even though it didn't have her best songs overall (oh how I love "Still in Love" and "Rockets"). But this sounds like it's going to be a major departure in style, yes?
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)
And though I love the drums on "The Greatest", I do not like them elsewhere.
Are You Nomar? = I think that some critics will say it's a great departure in style, but I kinda think that's hogwash. They are laid-back country arrangements, - against which I guess you could say Moon Pix was indie rock-style and You Are Free was singer-songwriter style, - but this isn't really the chanteuse record I imagined, or the country record. (Or the pop record.) To me it's Chan with a very different backing band, one that's got some twang and some sheen but which also lacks much soul.
It's possible I've not entirely downloaded the proper version, though -- do "The Moon" and "Hate" sound live (and different than the rest) to anyone else?
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)
― 'you' vs. 'city hall' FITE (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 24 November 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 24 November 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)
― 'you' vs. 'city hall' FITE (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 24 November 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 24 November 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)
― Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)
hey, thanks!
― 'you' vs. 'city hall' FITE (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)
A "west coast/jefferson airplane/skip spence psychedelia thing" sounds promising!
cosign
i'm curious who all the young female indie singer-songwriters who sound like they're trying to be her are, or what the moves that they're making that come across that way are
― thomp, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)
I'm mostly referring to local stuff I see live in the Pacific NW with that comment.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)
and the signifiers are mostly vocal-related, that drawly yowl and detached attitude.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)
i think she's capable of putting out another great record. you are free is her best work yet, but it can be topped.
i really don't mind this neo-soul stuff, so long as she doesn't keep inundating us with cover after cover. seeing her perform live is just riveting stuff, regardless of the material.
― borntohula, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)
you are free is her best work yet
I think you and I are the only two people with this opinion.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)
possibly. moon pix is so much greater. and what would the community think as well. with her it seems that the more she struggles the stronger is her output. i saw her on the moon pix tour with the dirty three, elliott smith played with quasi as well. she was so detached, so totally somewhere else, it was amazing. she is mor now, totally forgettable.
― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)
i really liked the Greatest, I thought it was a really nice album; my favorite is still Moon Pix though, and the first Covers album. I think she can do another great album, but I hated Jukebox, it just sounded like coasting to me.
― akm, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)
yeah I agree with that assessment
― sleeve, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)
other thoughts...even though I was familiar with The Yeah Yeah Yeahs before Cat Power (I had managed to avoid Cat Power for many years, while the YYYs are friends), when I started hearing Cat Power I think Karen O def. got some moves from her.
Also, they played Fortunate Son last night. Don't know if that's a regular cover for her, but it was fantastic.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:52 (sixteen years ago)
when I started hearing Cat Power I think Karen O def. got some moves from her.
???!?!?!?!
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)
we're talking vocally, right? i can hear similarities, esp. when Karen O. chills out.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:05 (sixteen years ago)
i cannot
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:16 (sixteen years ago)
not even on that commercial she sang on? (just googled it -- the adidas commercial)
― tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)
bar in "lived in bars" video is where i do the bulk of my drankinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNQ7fSMW3Q8
i have never seen minors there tho
― ^prizes the praise of the media, and the Europeans (will), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:23 (sixteen years ago)
does that mean we have to work extra hard to force it on the others?
don't get me wrong, i like moon pix and the covers record too, but you are free is such a great distillation of her sound. because the songs are so varied, it's the best representation of her songwriting skills over time.
― borntohula, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:27 (sixteen years ago)
yes vocally, esp. during the more acousticy YYY songs, or even the solo acoustic stuff Karen used to do.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:28 (sixteen years ago)
you are free is too clean sounding, moon pix sounds damaged, its kindof a waterlogged sunrise
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:29 (sixteen years ago)
i saw her on the moon pix tour with the dirty three, elliott smith played with quasi as well. she was so detached, so totally somewhere else, it was amazing.
aw
― the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)
was it a satellite link up?
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:06 (sixteen years ago)
signifiers are mostly vocal-related, that drawly yowl and detached attitude
can imagine ppl doing this — but i dunno that it'd really get at her essential, er, cat power-ness
lived in bars is a really great song, i find it hard to write off someone who had that on their last record of originals
i guess she's in the same position a lot of indie songwriter types get to — how do you complicate what you do, bring in actual worked-on craft, without removing your idiosyncrasies or reducing them to schtick
― thomp, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)
i mean, no way would moon pix pt 2, 3, 4, and 5 would be more interesting than her actual last four records
― thomp, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)
Hurrah, a whole room of people who agree with me about Cat Power.
Moon Pix is a such a goddamn awesome record. Impossible to follow it up.
― Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)
I think you and I are the only two people with this opinion.― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:02 (Yesterday) Bookmark
I'm happy to be a third. You Are Free is her best. She has def lost it since then mind.
― Duke, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:39 (sixteen years ago)
i don't hear cat power in karen o at all. if we're talking about drawly yowl and detached attitude then scary mansion is my nominee:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IacWOMLtjwY
she's cute, too!
― borntohula, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)
i saw her with the dirty three also, at the end of the set she dropped her guitar and ran off the stage and out the back door of the club.
― akm, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)
Moon Pix is a dull album with one deeply fantastic track - "Cross Bones Style". (Though I'll concede "The Colours and the Kids" is kind of affecting and perhaps is what "Harry Patch (In Memory of)" should have been.) I don't see her career trajectory as one of clear decline. The Greatest doesn't always work, but it's a good album. You Are Free is far and away her best though.
― Freedom, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)
If I had to pick a standout on Moon Pix, it would be "Metal Heart" -- no question.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:29 (sixteen years ago)
I'm guessing by cute you mean insufferable? ;-)
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:31 (sixteen years ago)
Metal Heart is her best song and one of my all-time favourites by anyone
― Number None, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)
jukebox vers of metal heart is a travesty
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 15:13 (sixteen years ago)
a friend show me a couple of songs she did on Jools a while back, i guess they we're all from The Greatest, but they were damn good still
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 15:15 (sixteen years ago)
I'll throw my lot in with the You Are Free crowd. It's an easier listen I suppose, but it never drags like her other albums tend to in places.
― DavidM, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 15:31 (sixteen years ago)
you are free sounds like a polished singer songwriter album by anyone
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:09 (sixteen years ago)
i'll be the grumpy fuck who says the first three Shelley/Foljahn-backed albums are by far her best stuff and Moon Pix was the beginning of the end as far as me being able to stand anything she did after.
― nutsih the clown (some dude), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:17 (sixteen years ago)
what would the community think is pretty great but i can't say i've ever heard the other two all the way through
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)
i'm exaggerating slightly (Moon Pix is definitely better than the first one), but Myra Lee is underrated as fuck.
― nutsih the clown (some dude), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 20:05 (sixteen years ago)
it doesn't, though
― thomp, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)
it is polished for her, but i can't see how that suddenly makes her work any less distinguishable.
― borntohula, Thursday, 13 August 2009 03:02 (sixteen years ago)
YAF sucks. She needs to stay away from Eddie Vedder & electric guitars.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 13 August 2009 03:08 (sixteen years ago)
i don't like that album but wtf, she played an electric guitar on the overwhelming majority of her first few albums.
― nutsih the clown (some dude), Thursday, 13 August 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, and she sounds better with other instruments backing her voice & songs imo. Like on "Werewolf" from YAF--- the only song I love from that album.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 13 August 2009 04:00 (sixteen years ago)
And "Colors and the Kids" mmm & Sea of Love mmmm
Though I do like Nude as the News, which does have electric guitar.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 13 August 2009 04:02 (sixteen years ago)
+1 for You Are Free as her best.
― & they talked about "fucking a behive", literally, 4 times (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 13 August 2009 05:32 (sixteen years ago)
do not agree with "no electric guitars" and moon pix is a very good reason why
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:38 (sixteen years ago)
i like "colors and the kids" but seriously keyboard cat >>>>> cat power pawing a piano two notes at a time
― nutsih the clown (some dude), Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:14 (sixteen years ago)
metal heart is definitely the only song on Jukebox I really liked, kind of a good version of her own song.
― akm, Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:34 (sixteen years ago)
new york new york off jukebox is brilliant imo and is a bit "wow you have become a skilled singer who can do interpretations and not just in a "i'm so sad singing this song u guys" way"
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:53 (sixteen years ago)
wow you have become a skilled singer who can do interpretations
See, this is how I feel about The Covers Record.
Jukebox, on the other hand...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:47 (sixteen years ago)
jukebox is decent. it has some interesting cuts, but isn't essential cat power. the covers record on the other hand is a fantastic example of her ability to make things her own, with "satisfaction" coming to mind as one of the most daring and successful moves she's made handling someone else's song.
― borntohula, Sunday, 16 August 2009 03:01 (sixteen years ago)
Hearing her sing in spanish for jukebox's "angelitos negros" was perhaps one of the most painful musical experiences I've had in my whole life.
― Moka, Sunday, 16 August 2009 09:40 (sixteen years ago)