I need to stop listening to the human league

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I've been listening to them to the exclusion of all else for the past few weeks and need to branch out before i sicken myself.

I was thinking of picking up 'non-stop erotic caberet', 'sulk' and 'the affectionate punch' (i used to have the last 2 on a double cassette that i got for about £2.99 but have long since lost).

What else should i go for in a superior synth pop vein?

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

"Fourth Drawer Down"

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

So that's lots of Associates and a bit of soft cell so far. I had Billy Mackenzie's solo album from 1989 but i exchanged that during my indie phase in my late teens.

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

There's no such thing as "too much Associates"

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

What Dadaismus said.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

It took Simon Reynolds to make me realise how attractive Alan Rankine was back in the day. In 'rip it up and start again' he calls them an Edinburgh band, i thought Billy MacKenzie was from Dundee.

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

He most certainly was!!!!!!!!!!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yup. Tom Doyle's bio to thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

He'd never have turned out that weird if he'd been from Edinburgh

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think you can go far wrong with Soft Cell records, really.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Fad GAdget.

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

OMD! first four albums ... in this order:

architecture and morality (brilliant, accessible, wondrous)
organisation (bleakly majestic kraftwerk-lite)
orchestral manoeuvres in the dark (fascinating, slightly patchy debut)
dazzle ships (utter fucking genius. absolute godlike majesty. one of my favourite albums ever)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

also, leigh: do you have all the "golden hour of the future" human league stuff? if not, be seeking it out.

also, if you haven't already, spend some time here.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Shiny Toy Guns.
(if you're all going to stay schtumm on the STG thread, I'll have to go for guerilla tactics. But it actually, really, fits here)

vinegar (Koens), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Buggles - The Age Of Plastic
Some YMO or even Kraftwerk?

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Buggles - The Age Of Plastic

Yes yes yes!

moley, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

i keep meaning to get that buggles album.

on a similar silly-specs theme ... their image was fucking awful, but some of the music a flock of seagulls made was quite, quite wonderful in an HL-esque mournful-pop way.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

I've been to blind youth already. I've got reproduction but not travelogue. Is hysteria worth getting? I am familiar with buggles and a flock of seagulls but i'm not keen on them.

Got lots of kraftwerk but no yellow magic orchestra.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Hysteria's lead single was "The Lebanon." I think it's better than the reviews it got at the time, but it's no masterpiece (I remember the apocryphal story about when the review copy came in at the NME - because of the sleeve design, they saw "MANGUE HYSTERIA" and assumed it was an Afropop album, thus were all ready to rave about top-drawer World Music, not plastic cocktail crap, etc., and then they realised it was the new Human League record).

Actually, though, Penthouse And Pavement by Heaven 17 to get the other side of the story.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

first thing to do is get travelogue. that'll keep you happy for another lifetime or so.

hysteria ... i've not listened to it in years. ISTR it was pretty poor but had an awesome picture of the band on the inner sleeve.

x-post: marcello OTM about P&P. you'll probably prefer the second side of it :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm familiar with the singles from Hysteria, i do actually like the lebanon, the video is certainly very amusing but the best thing about it is the bassline. Having said that i can distinctly remember them performing it on the tube and me deciding, as a nine year old, that if that's what live music is like than i don't want to hear it. Another 6 years passed before i went to my first gig.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

The inner sleeve of Hysteria is indeed cool; all the group are hanging out in this (nearly unfurnished) house, and in the bottom right-hand corner there's a TV broadcasting Norman Wisdom in The Early Bird.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

I read about that, was it not phil and joanne's front room?

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

in the bottom right-hand corner there's a TV broadcasting Norman Wisdom in The Early Bird.

Now that is genius!

BarabadabaDadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if Fopp have them in the £5 rack. Will have to go and investigate when i get paid.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

IN SOVIET RUSSIA, HUMAN LEAGUE NEEDS TO STOP LISTENING TO YOU

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

What else should i go for in a superior synth pop vein?

The answer is "Tin Drum"

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

I already have 'tin drum, 'oil on canvas' and 'quiet life'.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Definitely Heaven 17's Penthouse and Pavement is as good as the Human League at their best, but much, much cooler. It was drop-dead cool then and probably still is, I reckon, though I've not heard it for a long time.

moley, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

My friend had the second Heaven 17 album which we used to listen to on her tinny brick-like mono cassette recorder. Will have to add penthouse and pavement to my list.

What about Cabaret Voltaire?

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

Red Mecca was also 1981 and the dark side of Sheffield electricity for that year. Essential listening, but not necessarily pop.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

don't underestimate "octopus" 'cos "tell me when" is brilliant.

retroboy, Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Just in case you missed the Fad Gadget mention, here it is again. Get Fad Gadget, try 'Under the Flag' as a first off, though if theres a best off which has most of the singles that would do nicely too.

I dunno what Dalek I love You re-issues there have been but they might be worth checking out.

But really - and this may start a religious flame war (bring it on!) the nearest thing to the first two human league albums is Gary Numan's Replicas. Of course this advice comes from a man who claims that Cabaret Voltaire's Crackdown / Microphonies / sensoria period was a direct response to Dare, so you've been warned...

If you get on fine / already know replicas with that album already, try wandering into the first three Ultravox albums and some John Foxx solo efforts.

sandy blair, Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Pete Shelley solo records

Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Have there been any Dalek I Love You re-issues?!? It took me awhile to search out the excellent Compass and I've never seen/heard of anything else.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

sandy's right about gazza, actually: the MKII league was massively influenced by him. some of his stuff is unbearable, but "replicas" and most of "the pleasure principle" (particularly "ME") is great.

for early ultravox - much of which i find a little too stilted and studiedly robotic - try "three into one", which is a distillation of the first three albums. "just for a moment" (i think that's what it's called) is a stand-out.

the cabs are great but they are by no stretch of the imagination synthpop.

the first two depeche mode albums are pure synthpop, of course: nobody's mentioned them yet. (i'd argue that everything from "construction time" on, superior though it is, isn't synthpop either, which is why i'm not going to mention it.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Visage too

Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yazoo - Upstairs at Eric's, is essential and criminally overlooked. Crisp, heartfelt, witty pop sung by a Dusty Springfield in Doc Martens.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

fuck yes, how did i forget "upstairs at eric's"? make sure you get the full version, though: didn't they drop "i before e except after c" on later versions?

the second yaz(oo) album is, IIRC, utter spunk.

no love for blancmange? they had their moments. those moments being "sad day" and the abba cover. and, er ... ach, they were all right.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Upstairs At Eric's and Penthouse & Pavement both seconded.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

The second Yazoo album is pretty average and humdrum but unfortunately includes "Ode To Boy," which was the best thing they ever did.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 28 October 2005 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the human league is just garbage. I hate it and I hate it.

http://www.a-human-right.com/RKBA/basics.jpg

Hoy Chow, Friday, 28 October 2005 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

guess the new compilation with rare remixes and b-sides aint going to help leigh ..

1. Being Boiled - Travelogue Version
2. The Sound Of The Crowd - 12” Version - Complete
3. Hard Times - Love Action B-Side
4. Non-Stop - Open Your… B-Side
5. Don't You Want Me - Extended Dance Mix
6. Mirror Man - Extended Version
7. You Remind Me Of Gold - Mirror Man B-Side
8. (Keep Feeling) Fascination - Improvisation
9. Total Panic - Fascination B-Side
10. The Lebanon - Extended
11. Life On Your Own - Extended
12. Electric Dreams - Extended
13. Human - Extended
14. Heart Like A Wheel - Extended

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 3 November 2005 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

Guess not, worth it for 'The sound of the crowd' alone.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 3 November 2005 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
I got travelogue and hysteria yesterday. I'm loving travelogue, not so sure about hysteria. I also feel slightly cheated as the cd i have doesn't have the photo of the band watching a norman wisdom film.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
I picked up the deluxe 21st aniversary edition of Dare last week in spite of already having the bog standard cd. There's no hope for me.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

get into "octopus".
please leigh upload a bside and if it's good i'll buy reissue.

retrogurl, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

leigh - got Secrets yet?

Dr.C (Dr.C), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

No not yet. I tend to value the six piece line up above others.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Propaganda - A Secret Wish

Cliftonb, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I've just been playing with my Amazon recommendations and came across this entry. The album is fair enough, but their reason for suggesting it is somewhat bizarre.

Original Remixes and Rarities
~ The Human League
Release Date: November 7, 2005


Recommended because you said you owned Doctor Who - City Of Death [1979]

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

1. Being Boiled (Travelogue Version) (Travelogue Album)

meh. never understood why they bothered, other than to show off the silly horn noise.

2. The Sound Of The Crowd (12” Versino - Complete) (12” Single)

worth buying for this alone.

3. Hard Times (Love Action B-Side) (3” CD Single)

meh.

4. Non-Stop (Open Your… B-Side) (12” Single)

i have this, but don't remember a thing about it.

5. Don't You Want Me (Extended Dance Mix) (12” Single)

do i have this? i'm sure i have a 12" of DYWM but i don't remember it being in any way different to the 7". ooh.

6. Mirror Man (Extended Version) (12” Single)

meh.

7. You Remind Me Of Gold (Mirror Man B-Side) (12” Single)

heheh, ridiculous baritone phil being ridiculous. meh.

8. (Keep Feeling) Fascination (Improvisation) (12” Single)

again, i have this. i don't remember how different it is to the "normal" version.

9. Total Panic (Fascination B-Side) (3” CD Single)

ditto.

10. The Lebanon (Extended) (12” Single)

GET THE FUCK IN!

11. Life On Your Own (Extended) (12” Single)

GET THE FUCK IN!

12. Electric Dreams (Extended) (12” Single)

GET THE FUCK IN!

13. Human (Extended) (12” Single)

GET THE FUC .. oh, sorry. meh.

14. Heart Like A Wheel (Extended) (CD & 12” Single)

ditto.

all in all: i'm buying it. thanks for telling us!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

leigh - got Secrets yet?
-- Dr.C (petethane...) (webmail), January 4th, 2006 3:41 PM.


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No not yet. I tend to value the six piece line up above others.
-- leigh (melodynelso...) (webmail), January 4th, 2006 3:53 PM

Leigh, if you've got Dare. Secrets is the one to get next. Perfect blend of the pop classicism of Dare and the more experimental moments of the League mk I.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I got 'crash' for £1.99 on vinyl on tuesday together with 'penthouse & pavement' and 'the luxury gap' for £3.99 a piece in the oxfam music shop. I also managed to pick up 'don't you want me?' on 7" for 99p from cancer research and 'sign o the times' for £3 from barnardos. I'm glad i made the trip to stockbridge.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

ok, i've bought "secrets". i'm ripping it now. IT HAD BETTER BE AS GOOD AS EVERYONE SAYS, or ... er, i'll be a bit disappointed.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

halfway through.

it's ... REALLY, REALLY FUCKING GOOD. wow. i genuinely expected to hate it too.

a kind of halcyon gorilla (grimlord), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

fuck yes, how did i forget "upstairs at eric's"? make sure you get the full version, though: didn't they drop "i before e except after c" on later versions?

There is no full version, as earlier versions don't include "Situation" and "The Other Side of Love", both clearly way better than "I Before E Except After C"

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

I picked up the deluxe 21st aniversary edition of Dare last week in spite of already having the bog standard cd.

I did several years ago. Considering it contained that remix album (that I didn't have beforehand) plus the audio was way better than the mid 80s master I had previously owned, it was certainly worth it.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

"Hard Times" is not "meh". It's fucking ace.

"Keep Feeling Fascination - improvisation" is also brilliant.

everything, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Guess my next league related purchases will be secrets and the remix album.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 19 January 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

**it's ... REALLY, REALLY FUCKING GOOD. wow. i genuinely expected to hate it too.**

I TOLD YOU!! Have faith!

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 19 January 2006 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

it tails off a little towards the end - "sin city" is, i think, weak - but it's a cracking album. very impressed indeed.

both clearly way better than "I Before E Except After C"

i disagree heartily.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 19 January 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

It was good to get love and dancing bundled in but i was initally swayed by the nice little book it's packaged in. I heard 'we don't need this fascist groove thang' for the first time (i think) a few days ago and haven't been able to get it out of my head since.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 19 January 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

biddly-biddly-B'DAP-B'DAP in a slap-bass stylee!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 19 January 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Funny how it took the split for them to discover funky bass lines. You can't dance to the MK1 league. Having said that i have been known to try to dance to 'empire state human' but it's not for public consumption and involves lots of arm waving.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 19 January 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Lester Bangs last words?

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 19 January 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

You can't dance to the MK1 league.

Unimportant.
MK2 league (at least on "Dare") also had better songs though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

i heartily disagree ;)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Not better, just different.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 20 January 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
14. Heart Like A Wheel (Extended) (CD & 12” Single)

i listened to this today.

then i listened again.

and again. and again. it is awesome. you know that incredibly wonderful experience where you realise that a song you've kinda known for years is actually a thing of sublime wonder? well, it was like that. only better.

i now need to track down a copy of romantic? quick-smark. IIRC there was a song called "rebound" that was bordering on the godlike. i have a feeling it's one of those albums that will have matured exquisitely.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

"Heart Like The Wheel" was terribly underrated at the time. A marvellous single that should have been a huge comeback hit. Instead they had to wait until "Tell Me When" for that.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

"Heart Like a Wheel" is catchy as all hell.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

How did I know you would have resurrected this thread!

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

it's not just the catchiness, though; the second chord in the second bar (of the 12") touches something deep in my soul. it's quite painfully beautiful.

johnny seven, coming over the sea (grimlord), Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ keef.

alext (alext), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

'Heart like a wheel' was written by Jo Callis and Eugene Reynolds, does that not make it a Rezillos song? I see Ian Burden has resurfaced playing bass for an Australian goth combo.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

just got blue zoo's "2 X 2" axl rose leading a synthi new wave band? tim friese green playing and producing? good? I think so I think.

soda jerk, Saturday, 6 May 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
x-post.

That Jo Callis guy has always intrigued me. I've always loved the Rezillos, for which he basically wrote almost all the songs, then for my favourite period of the Human League. This old interview from a keyboard magazine makes it pretty clear how integral he was to the band at the time: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:RP0iBM5gwp0J:www.league-online.com/keyboard.html+jo+callis&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=4

There's a mk2 Human League bootleg called "Drumset Mystery" which has them closing the set with "Destination Venus", just as the Rezillos used to. I'd love to hear it.

Once in the late 80's I spotted Callis at a comic & toy fair. As a pretty insecure kid, I was just about crippled with anxiety cos I didn't know whether I should try to speak to him or not. Eventually it got so stressful that I had to leave.

everything (everything), Thursday, 3 August 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eA6BruD9TI

"Circus of Death" + King of the Monsters (SNES).

Tyler Burns (burns46824@yahoo.com), Sunday, 23 September 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago)


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