Hating on Panther is played.
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)
― TRG (TRG), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)
Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)TicalReturn to the 36 ChambersOnly Built 4 Cuban LinxLiquid Swords
(Yes, there's five, and yes, liberties have been taken, but this trumps EVERYTHING.)
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)
― Its morph 'em to pun cute (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)
Also Billy Pilgrim OTM, TRG not so much.
I know people who would argue for Nas.
― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)
― disco violence (disco violence), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)
― Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 27 October 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)
― amon (eman), Thursday, 27 October 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)
licensed to illpaul's boutiquecheck your headill communications
― Gregory T (tubesocks), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)
― mclaugh (mclaugh), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)
I woulda said De La Soul (3 Feet High thru Buhloone Mindstate is a run of remarkable consistency and power, but Stakes is High is not in that league.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)
(if you count production credits as valid...)
― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)
but nothing can beat the Wu-Tang golden streak
― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)
Schoolly DSaturday NightSmoke Some KillAm I Black Enough For You
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)
― Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 October 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)
― Gavin, Thursday, 27 October 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)
hmmm...
How about I Wish My Brother George Was Here, No Need for Alarm, Future Development, Deltron 2020? That's pretty solid, except that FD never got official release until years later. And if you can count crews like Wu-Tang together,Hiero gets you I Wish My Brother George Was Here, 93 to Infinity, Fear Itself and No Need for Alarm, which is looking unfuckwitable.
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 27 October 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)
― js (honestengine), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)
I can't disagree with this one. Who woulda thunk it?
― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)
I wish Schoolly wouldn't whore himself out to that piece of shit show with the talking meat character.
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)
The biggest problem with Schoolly D reissues is that Smoke Some Kill would have to omit Signifyin' Rapper because of the whole Led Zep / Abel Ferrara brouhaha. It's like cutting ears off the Mona Lisa, I say.
― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)
And I'm sticking with my Wu picks above, primarily because the RZA's production makes them fair game, but De La Soul, Tribe, and Jay Z are STRONG contenders.
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 27 October 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)
also, i don't get what's so great about ATLiens? it really underwhelmed me. am i missing something?
― regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 27 October 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 27 October 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)
You fucking idiots!
― Dr J Bowman, Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
criminal minded>by all mean necessary>ghetto music>edutainment deserves consideration.
also, yo bum rush the show is utterly classic.
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
and edutainment is really quite good.
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
I'm sayin'. Nobody is fucking with those four albums.
Eh, "street level" is great, it's "musical massacre" which is cack other than the two singles, 2 songs and the interludes.
I suppose Wu-Tang + the solo albums just about count. How about Dr. Dre..? From the D.O.C album to "efil4zaggin"(+"100 miles and runnin'" ep) to "the chronic" to "doggystyle"..and that's not even mentioning "str8 outta compton" and "eazy-duz-it", although neither are quite in the same league as the above four.
I sorta agree with Eric B. & Rakim too even though the first 3 are patchy with 6-8 unfuckwithable high points each. "Don't sweat the technique", though, rules. Maybe Ice Cube too
As far as greatest-four-record-run-in-rap-12"s-history goes, then Spoonie Gee owns this thread and it's end of story, son. You can take "spoonin' rap" up to "spoonie is back" or "street girl" up to "you's not just a fool" and it doesn't matter. The man dropped marvellous 12"s throughout each specific era from '79 -'88/'89.
― Ellis, Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
― Ellis, Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― Ellis, Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
― js (honestengine), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
― Ellis, Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
(Actually, isn't the party line that the second album sucks and the fourth one is one of their best? That never made any sense to me.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)
Do You Want More?!Illadelph HalflifeThings Fall ApartPhrenology
― natlawdp, Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)
This about sums up my thoughts, equivocation and all. I think if it was best six-record run everyone would agree it was J-Zed
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)
i will also say aye to missy, debut to under construction, but i feel the last one may be a weak link.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)
― DJMonsterMo, Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)
"Explain dislike of Yo Bum Rush The Show plz."
It's not that I dislike the album. In spite of not aging particularly well, it's a solid debut from one of my favourite groups ever. There are some really great moments on this album, but it takes more than just a few great moments to make a truly classic record. In '87 the PE sound still hadn't fully coalesced, and Flav is a bit over the top in places. To be honeset, I'd probably rate this album higher if not for what came next.
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 27 October 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)
doesn't the Michel'le album come in and fuck things up after D.O.C? I've never heard it, just guessing.
― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 27 October 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)
i've been listening to 'peoples instinctive travels in rhythm' so much recently; i think its my favourite...
― foxy boxer (stevie), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
That's ALMOST right...except the run is actually:
Straight Outta ComptonKill At Will (yeah EP but way classic)Amerikkka's Most WantedDeath Certificate
That's the actual run, plus Kill at Will >>>> Predator...
Schooly D is good too, but man Chuck you really like Am I Black Enough For You? that much?...that was when I got off the Schooly bandwagon....
Also...Jay-Z and Public Enemy are good ones!
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
Scarface:
Geto Boys [or Grip it on that Other Level,same thing basically]We Can't Be StoppedMr. Scarface Is BackTill Death Do Us Part
Also:
Born to MackLife Is..To ShortShort Dog's in the HouseShorty the Pimp*
*IF This is any good, can't remember...but the first three are all great.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
― baboon2004 (baboon2004), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
King Of Rock was Rush-released (haha), and there was a problem with the master tapes where the vocals got seperated from the drums or something. They had to piece it back together by hand, so the whole album to this day sounds a little "off" and gets slagged a little.
Tougher Than Leather was dogged for a long time as the moment they jumped the shark, but I think people are coming around to it. There's only like three or four stinkers on it.
I couldn't BELIEVE Pitchfork's review of the Run-DMC reissues. Slagging the fucking blueprint drafters for sounding "dated." Against who? The complicated flow of Young Jeezy? Like Fork would say the same thing about the Ramones or the Stooges? Criminy. The reissues are immaculate and sound as timeless and indispenible as ever.
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
...unless you're a historian or a rich person, save your money.
― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
I like this line[I]Lyrically, it's nothing special[/I]
Yeah, no one's ever built a chorus out of even the most tossed off line in a Run-DMC song.
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
Rating Cam'ron, Beanie Sigel, Three 6 Mafia and The Game higher than RAISING HELL is like ranking the Epitaph roster over the first Ramones album.
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
Agree that the sound is a little too minimalist/droney, but Y!BRTS has my all-time favorite Flav rhyme:
"I got to the beach, the ground was all sandy/Girls on my jock like ants on candy."
And I'm surprised to see Chuck naming Schoolly D like that - I thought that would be left up to me. Am I Black Enough For You? is a great album - even the follow-up, How A Blackman Feels, has three or four very solid tracks on it. He kinda lost it on Welcome To America, though. Still wish I'd gone to see him, with his band, at (long-defunct Newark, NJ punk/hardcore club) the Pipeline in 1988...
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
I realised on the weekend that you can slot Eazy-Duz-It into both Cube and Dre's runs of classics too
― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 31 October 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago)
bumping my own thread 5 years later because this is now so obviously
The College DropoutLate RegistrationGraduation808s & Heartbreak
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 23 October 2010 08:10 (fifteen years ago)
i think i would still take first four outkast albums and MAYBE first four missy
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 October 2010 08:16 (fifteen years ago)
kanye makes better albums than jay if you're being really meticulous and pedantic about it
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 October 2010 08:18 (fifteen years ago)
Jay makes great albums but never made four great albums in a row
i mean, i still stand by Kanye and my original LL post; but gonna give some extra props to Scarface, e-40 and Too $hort now that I'm a little more familiar with their catalogs than I was in '05
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 23 October 2010 08:20 (fifteen years ago)
UGK prob would've been a top 3 or 4 pick in this if there wasn't the five year gap after 'ridin dirty'
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 October 2010 08:22 (fifteen years ago)
that's still a good run!
even ilx isn't immune to ugk revisionism, hahaha
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 23 October 2010 08:23 (fifteen years ago)
well it is, but there's still a real significant drop off to 'dirty money' for the purposes of this thread
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 October 2010 08:24 (fifteen years ago)
Kill My LandlordGenocide & JuiceSteal This AlbumParty Music
― Drastic times require what? Drastic measures! Who said that? T (President Keyes), Saturday, 23 October 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)