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Patti Smith’s output is very patchy and often embarrassing / irritating, but at its best the perfection and purity with which she expressed desire and will in their rawest forms is unmatchable.

Can’t bring myself to say much about these, such is the extent to which I love them.

1. Gloria. Destroyed me at age 13, so much so that I wouldn’t listen to the rest of the album for a long time in case it wasn’t as good, and obviously nothing could be.
2. Land. I was wrong.
3. Hey Joe. “Sixty days ago she was such a lovely child. Now here she is with a gun in her hand.”
4. Pissing In A River
5. Piss Factory
6. Pumping (My Heart)
7. Beneath the Southern Cross
8. Ravens
9. Spell. Magnificent performance of Ginsberg’s postscript to Howl.
10. Rock’n’Roll Nigger

And ten more:

11. Dancing Barefoot
12. Dream of Life
13. Privilege (Set Me Free)
14. Godspeed
15. Summer Cannibals
16. Don’t Say Nothing
17. We Three
18. Space Monkey
19. Frederick
20. Seven Ways of Going

Content of these two lists basically = the sum total of her work that I find listenable at this point, which is actually a fair amount, come to think of it; but she sure put out a lot of dreck too, over nine albums and 30 years. (Destroy Only One: People Have the Power. EURGH.)

xero (xero), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

1. Wing
2. Birdland
3. Piss Factory
4. We Three
5. Kimberly
6. live "Radio Ethiopia/Rock & Roll Nigger" B-side to "Hey Joe" 12" 1977 reissue
7. Gloria
8. Pumpin' (My Heart)
9. Spell
10. Fireflies

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)

That was really hard. I love Patti.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)

Me too, even though I felt the need to fence my post with negativity out of sheer defensiveness (as well as some realism).

live "Radio Ethiopia/Rock & Roll Nigger" B-side to "Hey Joe" 12" 1977 reissue

OMG. I will have to hunt this down and own it.

I omitted anything bootlegged from my list, but that's a whole other realm of awesome.

xero (xero), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

1. gloria
2. dancing barefoot
3. hey joe
4. piss factory
5. land
6. free money
7. birdland
8. summer cannibals
9. pumping my heart
10. frederick

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

some strange music draws me in...

dancing barefoot

gem (trisk), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

"Radio Ethiopia" B-side mentioned above:

prelude (inexplicably, the track is split into two distinct sections complete with fadeout):
http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3Q2BF3WB8D2PR20SC02EJ8H3D9

Radio Ethiopia/Rock N Roll Nigger:

http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LZ0MRJIK9XH62GI5FSHPIRAD4

You should still search this out at all costs but its kinda hard to find - only released in France on Arista. Hence the YSI.

I second xero regarding the endless bounty that is Patti Smith live bootlegs. Totally amazing.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

Wow. You rule with draconian force, sleeve. Thank you.

xero (xero), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

'summer cannibals' is one of the best karaoke songs ever

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

ATE EAT EAT

xero (xero), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)

i rather like people have the power

vacuum cleaner (electricsound), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

Never heard Wave or anything post-Peace and Noise. I seem to like Easter a lot more than the rest of you, maybe becuse it was the first of her 70s albums I ever got and so was the one I played most. Again, it's been a long time since I played an album so I'm going by which hooks stand out most in my head. (Now I'm scanning the AMG clips. It seems I prefer Easter even more than I realized):

Because the Night (No one else loves this? Probably my OPO.)
'Til Victory
Easter (Or this?)
Pissing In a River
Gloria
Radio Ethiopia
We Three
Ghost Dance
Death Singing
My Madrigal

xposts Hmmm, I need to pull out Gone Again. "About a Boy" and "Dead to the World" were good IIRC.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

I guess I don't find rocker Patti as convincing as some people do.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

But half of your list is rocker Patti!

xero (xero), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

Destroy it all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

"Pissing in a River", Seattle 2001.

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2OHVGGWNCZJGO2UU3XTRKCGPMO

Patti Smith vs. Gang of Four, by Booji Boy Jnr: "Natural's Not In It (punki funki breaki mix)". Not very well executed but still entertaining. "Love and sex ... sex and drugs ... sound of the final analysis..." / "THE problem! OF leisure! WHAT to do! FOR pleasure!" If anyone knows the source of the Patti vocal, please advise.

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05J9NZLMBSSUG0FF7DHE3PIBXL

xero (xero), Thursday, 27 October 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

1. Free Money
2. Piss Factory
3. Gloria
4. Dancing Barefoot
5. Rock 'n Roll Nigger
6. Break It Up
7. My Generation
8. Birdland
9. Land
10. Redondo Beach

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

alex you don't even like 'because the night'?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

Apparently no one does but me!

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)


alex you don't even like 'because the night'?

Not my cup of tea. And didn't Springsteen write that?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 October 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

So predictable, Alex turns up to trash Patti Smith like she pissed in his Frosted Falkes or something.

knife (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)

Wait, Fred Falke got his tips bleached?

(Also: I smell spurned advances)

disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

Well, she did work at a piss factory, right?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)

Nobody cares what you think of Patti Smith, dude. Just drop it.

disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

Last time I checked, ILM was an open forum, which means you get dissenting opinions. Deal with it.

And don't call me dude.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

1. Gloria
2. Land
3. Piss Factory
4. Break It Up
5. Dancing Barefoot
6. We're Gonna Have a Real Good Time Together
7. Wave
8. Pale Blue Eyes
9. Birdland
10. Ask the Angels

The Ghost of Poppy Hidalgo (diamond), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

i rather like people have the power
-- vacuum cleaner (electricsoun...), October 27th, 2005.

I used to like that, too. Why did people hate on that so much? Haven't heard it since then.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

Why did people hate on that so much?

Bono likes it. Sang it from the stage to Patti (who was in attendance) at the `Garden a couple of weeks back.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:25 (twenty years ago)

it was bill bradley's presidential campaign theme wasn't it?

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

"People Have the Power" and "Till Victory" represent the worst of her grandiose / triumphalist tendencies, to me.

Bono likes it. Sang it from the stage to Patti (who was in attendance) at the `Garden a couple of weeks back.

Christ. Proof positive that it sucks. I hope she told him to fuck off, like she did before -- "Fuck you, Bono, I'm not your mother or your sister or your lover or your muse."

I suppose "Because the Night"'s a good song and all that, but I burned out on it long ago so that grating Springsteenness is all I can hear in it now.

Mr. in NYC’s restraint, civility, and refusal to rise to yummy, yummy bait here have been admirable.

xero (xero), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)


Christ. Proof positive that it sucks. I hope she told him to fuck off, like she did before -- "Fuck you, Bono, I'm not your mother or your sister or your lover or your muse."

Funnily enough, that's exactly what I was thinking about while he was doing it. That she showed up to a U2 show after that (it was the Q Magazine awards, right?) was sort've disappointing (while I don't like her or her music, I thought it was damn refreshing to hear someone take Bono to task for once for being such a fuckin' blowhard.)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

it was the Q Magazine awards, right?

Y'know, I don't actually recall which award presentation it was. I just remember that her response to his fatuous remarks was incredibly scathing.

it was damn refreshing to hear someone take Bono to task for once for being such a fuckin' blowhard

A-fuckin'-men.

xero (xero), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm a huge Patti fan but I kinda really hate "Rock & Roll Nigger". just one of her ugh moments to me but that's part of being a Patti fan I guess.


this site is key:

http://www.oceanstar.com/patti/info/bootlegs.htm

The Ghost of Poppy Hidalgo (diamond), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

Gloria
Horses
Ghost Dance
Pissing in a River
Babelogue -> Rock & Roll Nigger
Free Money
Because the Night (I love the bridge)
My Generation

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 28 October 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

Patti nowadays(with some semi-familiar-looking dork) :

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/3052/meandpatti1yl.jpg

Big Lovecraft fan, too

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 28 October 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

she's still looking good apparently.
my list is unfinished cause i haven't heard much of her stuff. but i'm pretty sure these would be in there approx. in this position-

1. Gloria
3. Horses
4. Rock'N'Roll Nigger
6. Land

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 28 October 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

xpost: ROCK. On all counts.

"Babelogue" was a big part of the reason for "Rock & Roll Nigger"'s position on my list -- without that I'm not sure it would've placed in the top 10.

Also by "Land" I meant the whole piece on side 2 of Horses, from "the boy was in the hallway..." to the end, even though the label on the record has it in three parts: "horses," "Land (of a thousand dances)," and "la mer(de)."

(Just googled & found that it was indeed Bono's presentation of the 1997 Q Magazine Inspiration Award that prompted her epic smackdown.)

xero (xero), Friday, 28 October 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Patti doing "Redondo Beach" on Conan right now!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:29 (twenty years ago)

Aw bless. Did she & Conan talk as well?

She just put out a 2-disc set called Horses Horses, comprising the 1975 album plus the London concert last June where she performed the whole thing. I'm curious about the live disc. Also, anybody see her at BAM last week?

xero (xero), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

the double disc is pretty/very good - i think worth the $$. and the recording of the 2005 part seems to be very well done/impossibly great sounding for a live concert. i wish i'd seen her on Conan.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

The live disc on her Best Of a couple years ago was wonderful as well.

Anyway, nothing new here:

25th Floor
Ask the Angels
Birdland
Dancing Barefoot
Frederick
Free Money
Gloria
Piss Factory
Redondo Beach
Rock N Roll Nigger

dan. (dan.), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

This seems like the most Patti-positive of the existing ILM threads, so I'll revive to say that her new book, Just Kids, is a good read, especially the first 2/3 or so. She seems to have benefited a lot from the example of Dylan's Chronicles, but her book has the advantage of a straighter narrative line, following the evolution of her relationship with Robert Mapplethorpe.

I like the first few albums, haven't paid much attention since, but I'm glad I yielded to the impulse to pick this up. The writing is far more direct and controlled than I expected, the story is deeply felt, and even when she lapses into excessive namechecking, she gives a vivid picture of the 70s NYC scene.

Brad C., Friday, 22 January 2010 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

love patti, but "excessive namechecking" is par for the course by now, isn't it? anyway, would like to read this soon! i think more memoirs should take Chronicles as a model, really. A lot more interesting than the standard autobio format.

tylerw, Friday, 22 January 2010 17:41 (sixteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Patti Smith Wins National Book Award

Brad C., Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

nice! it's definitely a good read.

tylerw, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

seven years pass...

Florence - Patricia is dedicated to her

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 09:04 (seven years ago)

four months pass...

reread Just Kids, such a great story, sometimes funny and down to earth, sometimes awe-inspiring

I guess Jonathan Richman was her first drummer?!

M Train is less "serious", but more fun

oh yeah, she did a song for the pope:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=3pztT_m3Bck

niels, Monday, 19 November 2018 11:46 (seven years ago)


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