The next band to be constantly referenced in rock writing?

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Recently the torch was passed from Gang of Four to Talking Heads. Who's next?

― Nigel (Nigel), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

Grinderswitch. I intend to write about Grinderswitch. Second on Blackmore's Rainbow, too. Was watching Smallville last week and one of the "theme" songs was "Man On a Silver Mountain," covered by some current metal band, the name which escapes me. Oh yeah, Hammerfall.

― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 31 October 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

The Meatls.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Factrix

― jdubz (ex machina), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Wham!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

Is it rock writing or rock playing that's doing the referencing?

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

Inspiral Carpets!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

The Alarm revival begins now!

― John Hunter, Monday, 31 October 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

Gang of Four to Talking Heads

O RLY?

― Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

klaatu

― jagged little filly (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

When the growing army of prog-core bands vomit up their version of the Rapture or the White Stripes, the Cardiacs will be lauded as the principle inspiration. They also have the back catalogue to back it up and can still play live as urgently as ever. Mark you calendars, Cardiacs on the cover of The Wire - November 2007.

― everything, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

Electric Light Orchestra I hope.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm kinda hoping for Van Der Graaf Generator. More (non-retro-soul) bands need organ and horns!

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

Robbie Williams

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Sky

― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

avril lavigne

― Idle Idle (idleidleidle), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

This one's easy...

The Stone Roses

― hector savage, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

Bela Fleck

― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

Crash Test Dummies

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

Husker Du, duh.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

Leo Sayer

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

with any luck, SABBATH

― sovietpanda (sovietpanda), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:09 (twenty years ago)

Fire Engines
bIG fLAME

― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

Dexy's Midnight Runners. IT COULD HAPPEN, 'sall I'm sayin'.

― Guayaquil (eephus), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

Dan Reed Network.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

If the world were fair, the answer would be either the Catherall/Solley-era Human League or Heaven 17. Enough with the same old boring rock & roll sound -- let's hear some REAL synth love, and I'm not just talking about the multitudes of Depeche Mode/OMD soundalikes that have popped up in the recent past, which is really INCREDIBLY lazy. Let's hear some Next Wave acts that actually SOUND like the '80s.

― This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)

PiL

― dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 06:10 (twenty years ago)

King Crimson

― Øystein (Øystein), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)

Probably Green Day for inventing punk rock. Hehe.

Nah, it'll probably be Radiohead, Coldplay, even Wilco.

I can't wait until everyone's ripping off Wolf Eyes though.

― Travis Johnson (godshapedhole), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

When the retro-90s thing fully kicks in, it will be Pavement, but none of the bands will sound remotely like Pavement.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

The Pop Group is getting namechecked more now than when they were a band.

The answer to the question is: whomever is rereleasing their back catalog.

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

a major may eventually re-release a portion of their back catalog, and nobody will likely release the rest!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

The Pop Group is getting namechecked more now than when they were a band

They were namechecked regularly when they were a band - at least until they released "Y".

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

They were on the cover of the NME before they'd even released any records.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

the monkees

― jagged little filly (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

i like the idea of the Cardiacs despite not having heard anything by them. so an increase in their profile would be great, only cos Tim Smith has recently produced the excellently manic new album by the glorious Scaramanga Six which by all accounts was a blast to record due to Tims methods.

― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

hyperbole, dude.

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Um, MBV? Or has this already happened?

― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

neil diamond's about to get the rehab treatment, esp. if the rick rubin record's any good...

i'm still waiting for roxy music to get props.

and metal's due for an early metallica-type "no gimmicks"-schtick band to do the whole brining it all back home thing, which critics would flip for.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure the MBV thing has already happened!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was Jesus and Mary Chain. Or is that over? My computer deletes the International Rock Critic Conspiracy mailing list as spam.

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

No, the world still waits in vain for the great JAMC Revival (with apologies to the first Raveonettes record)

― Guayaquil (eephus), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

and metal's due for an early metallica-type "no gimmicks"-schtick band to do the whole brining it all back home thing, which critics would flip for.

is that already Mastodon?

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

I can't wait until everyone's ripping off Wolf Eyes though.

uh...this is already happening....A LOT.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

The Birthday Party

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

I can't tell you how psyched I am for the Rick Rubin produced Neil Diamond record, "a return to his early singles sounds" or whatever...I hope Rubin goes for the rocking piano bass lines and female back-up singers and doesn't just make it like Neil was all about melancholy acoustic guitar rock.

I think chronologically, and when the dance and rock worlds further collide, and the cosmic and disco and house influences come further into play, and the aggro of the post-hardcore and the aggression of the electroclash electro melt away, we'll be left with....

The Happy Mondays

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

the dane and rock worlds are gonna collide (in the us)? i dont buy it. how about big black or die kreuzen.

― dhance, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

nitzer ebb

― omnisystem, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

I did too, but I just read that it has NO DRUMS on it, so it might be a lot mopier than the Bang records-style stuff I was hoping for.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Devo

― g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Devo, Pavement, and "whomever is rereleasing their back catalog" seem the most likely...

― Nigel (Nigel), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

xpost: Fuck it then. I've been hearing bands that rip off JAMC left and right, so I'm goin' for it! I can only hope to hear more bands ripping off Spacemen 3, The Small Faces and ESG in the near future, as I'm hoping that those get promoted to review lingo currency.

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

The trendy stuff is going to get harder again before it gets more disco, is my guess - Big Black upthread seems like a very good bet.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, I think with all the nu-metal and such, that the hipper idea is to move away from aggression. I'm thinking of hipster rockers more moved by psyche-folk, beard rock and cosmic disco.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

What kinda publications are we talking about here? You'll never get a Big Black (for one) reference into a daily newspaper - not without so many adjectives "for those who don't know" that you might as well not bother with the reference ...

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

who's referencing talking heads?

i thought the new name checked band was the incredible string band?

i'm waiting for a mixture of the currently seperate big instrumentation, danceable playfulness, and mystic folkiness. and then we'll all be name checking donovan and singing "there is a mountain" all day long.

― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I agree re: Big Black. Cool.

― dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Black Oak Arkansas

― darin (darin), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

So... Wait, it's set? We're all going with Big Black for the next six months or so? No matter what the band?

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

hipsters like the grateful dead

― petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

lots of referencing of the Talking Heads, esp with Clap Your Hands....

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

ooh - another ive seen a lot (possibly because ive been very interested recently...) is popol vuh (and other kosmiche-kraut stuff like cluster, harmonia, etc etc), especially in reference to delia/gavin. if that stuff has any indie-popular staying power, i bet we hear a lot about tangerine dream and schulze and popol vuh in hipper music writing.

― petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc900/c927/c927291gu7i.jpg

― Matt Carlson (mattsoncarlhew), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Chrome
Matmos (particularly The West mini-LP)

― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

Teardrop Explodes (in reference to magic bullets of course)

― corey c (shock of daylight), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

i'm still waiting for roxy music to get props.

You must not have been old enough or aware enough of the early '80s to remember a time when every exciting new artist out there who were getting a pretty large amount of attention were said to be influenced by Roxy Music and David Bowie, to the point where it ended up simply being abbreviated to Roxy/Bowie. Practically the whole New Romantic genre owes at least some debt of gratitude to Roxy Music. And you can definitely tell who worshiped Roxy the most -- they were the groups who dressed up in tailored suits in their heyday. You've got your Duran Durans, your Spandau Ballets, your Midge Ure-era Ultravoxes -- all of them definitely BIG Roxy Music fans.

― This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Teardrop Explodes seconded. also, DEVO:

http://2004.sxsw.com/music/showcases/pages/photos/polysics.jpg

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

If the world were fair, the answer would be either the Catherall/Solley-era Human League

yes.

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

this is a mystifying thread.

Recently the torch was passed from Gang of Four to Talking Heads.

ORLY?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

yeah both clap your hands say yeah and modest mouse get the talking heads thing all the time. nevermind both of them suck in comparison.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Arcade Fire get a lot of Talking Heads comparisons too. They cover Naive Melody, and the lead singing guy has copped a lot of Byrne's vocal tics.

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

DISCO INFERNO

― hjlk, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

K-Ci & JoJo

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

If the world were fair, the answer would be either the Catherall/Solley-era Human League

yes.

Thank you for that, piscesboy.

― This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 3 November 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

Kingston Trio.

― A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 3 November 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

has anyone said PETER GABRIEL
a likely contender

― Idle Idle (idleidleidle), Thursday, 3 November 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

Ha! Supposedly Kingston Trio to be mentioned in the Voice shortly, and not even by me.

(X-post)

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

Beatles, Metallica, Louvin Brothers (all cited by me in my Big & Rich piece).

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

Idle Idle: C'mon, man, TV on the Radio was, like, last year. If you didn't compare them to Peter Gabriel, you missed your chance.

― js (honestengine), Thursday, 3 November 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

chameleons

― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 November 2005 06:22 (twenty years ago)

Golden Earring

― Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 3 November 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

Golden Earring? I wish. They learned Radar Love phonetically, like Whale with Hobo Humpin' Slobo Babe. The world needs more Scandanavians singing abstract lyrics.

― js (honestengine), Thursday, 3 November 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

Dutch people = Scandinavians?

― This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 3 November 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, sure.
Well, no, I guess not, if you want to confine Scandinavia to its geographic boundaries. But the Netherlands are pretty close (I mean, after Denmark and Germany, and maybe Belgium)...

― js (honestengine), Thursday, 3 November 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

The Smiths

― late adopter, Thursday, 3 November 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

The Undertones anyone?

― zeus (zeus), Thursday, 3 November 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

The future belongs to the SPARKS

― snowballing (snowballing), Thursday, 3 November 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

Graceland-era Paul Simon. Already big on the house party circuit.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

DISCO INFERNO

I think the new broken social scene album sounds like it was REALLY influenced by Disco Inferno, actually.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

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