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1. Arcade Fire - Funeral
2. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
3. Bob Dylan - No Direction Home: The soundtrack - The Bootleg Series vol. 7
4. Black Mountain - Black Mountain
5. The National - Alligator
6. The Rolling Stones - A Bigger Bang
7. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem
8. The White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan
9. Franz Ferdinand - You Could Have It So Much Better
10. Rufus Wainwright - Want Two
11. Ry Cooder - Chavez Ravine
12. Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft
13. Devendra Banhart - Cripple Crow
14. Kanye West - Late Registration
15. Ryan Adams & the Cardinals - Cold Roses
16. Annie - Anniemal
17. Neil Young - Prairie Wind
18. Dungen - Ta Det Lugnt
19. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Worn Copy
20. Elbow - Leaders of the Free World
21. Lightning Bolt - Hypermagic Mountain
22. Antony & the Johnsons - I Am A Bird Now
23. Richard Thompson - Front Parlour Ballads
24. Animal Collective - Feels
25. Gorillaz - Demon Days
26. My Morning Jacket - Z
27. Bruce Springsteen - Devils & Dust
28. Brendan Benson - The Alternative To Love
29. Josh Rouse - Nashville
30. Big Star - In Space
31. The Magic Numbers - The Magic Numbers
32. John Cale - blackAcetate
33. Espers - Espers
34. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
35. Vitalic - OK Cowboy
36. The Pernice Brothers - Discover A Lovelier You
37. Beck - Guero
38. Hal - Hal
39. The Go-Betweens - Oceans Apart
40. Vic Chesnutt - Ghetto Bells
41. Robert Plant - Mighty Rearranger
42. Richmond Fontaine - The Fitzgerald
43. Smog - A River Ain't Too Much to Love
44. Kraftwerk - Minimum Maximum
45. Kaiser Chiefs - Employment
46. Paul Weller - As Is now
47. CocoRosie - Noah's Ark
48. Boards of Canada - The Campfire Headphase
49. Richard Hawley - Coles Corner
50. M.I.A. - Arular

Also the top 20 reissues:

1. Orange Juice - The Glasgow School
2. The Stooges - Fun House: Deluxe Edition
3. The Band - A Musical History
4. Bill Fay - Bill Fay
5. Various Artists - Hearing is Believing: The Jack Nitzsche Story 1962 - 1979
6. Can - Future Days
7. Dinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over Me
8. Johnny Cash - The Legend
9. Screaming Trees - Ocean of Confusion: Songs of Screaming Trees 1989 - 1996
10. Scritti Polliti - Early
11. Sonic Youth - Goo
12. Ray Charles - Pure Genius: The Complete Atalantic Recordings (1952 - 1959)
13. The Fall - The Complete Peel Sessions 1978 - 2004
14. Judee Sill - Dreams Come True
15. Free - Chronicles
16. The 101'ers - Elgin Avenue Breakdown (Revisited)
17. Comus - Song to Comus: The Complete Collection
18. The Associates - The Affectionate Punch 25th Anniversary Remaster
19. The Cure - Pornography Remastered Deluxe Edition
20. Simply Saucer - Cyborgs Revisited

― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

They are foolish publishing it NOW ! they must have voted Mid October. e.g Nine Horses got a 5 star review but NOT in Top 50. Kate Bush only 1 Uncut reviewer probably heard it in the EMI listening chamber, so that's missing.

Rubbish Methodology: Only 50, previous years upto 70 or 75.

Rubbish Selection: too much trad songs rock

Some releases are 2004 releases, re-released for the UK in 2005 [Arcade Fire, Dungen, Annie, Espers]

Uncut just make themselves foolish, no rigour, no research, whole genres ignored....

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

haha now we see the effect of pfork.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

they must have voted Mid October

mid-late september more like.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

no way is a bigger bang the sixth best album of the year.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

ooh yummie, a "The Man Who Fell to Earth" feature!

― willem (willem), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

apart from that i think it's a pretty good list. if you think there's too much trad rock on there you are definitely looking at the wrong magazine.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Arular and Cole's Corner are way too low. Both are in my top ten.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Jed is right - does ILM sincerely expect to agree with an Uncut list?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

Black Mountain at number 4 is a great result!

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

bollocks. boards of canada on #48?

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

e.g of a sublime late 2005 release overlooked:

Knut - Terraformer
http://www.knut-terraformer.com/
STREAM IT !

A masterpiece of ambient metal-noisecore-postrock-drone-doom-psychedelia-industrialized-dub-rock

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

ha Uncut has turned into a dullards Springsteen-Macca-Dylan Dusty Rock Museum

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

"Some releases are 2004 releases, re-released for the UK in 2005"

In fairness, it's a UK-based magazine with (I'd imagine) a predominantly UK-based readership, most of whom will only buy albums when they're released in the UK....

In all other respects you're absolutely right 'though.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Arular at 50 makes me suspect vote-fiddling. That's just too perfect a backhanded slap at her hype.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

I honestly thought this was a Film magazine. Some work to do on the branding then.

― login name (fandango), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

fandango, Uncut has been going since 1997, a mixture of Music & Films.

In recent years it has depressingly got worse Americana overload and the same dozen rock museum pieces from 60s/ 70s front cover shuffled.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't it come out of the ashes of Select magazine somehow?

Have to say I'm actually quite enjoying browsing the Mojo I got (KB, natch) and the free CD! gulp. This Uncut list is so rub even I couldn't be bothered hating on it.

― login name (fandango), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

Despite that crucial absence of ambient metal-noisecore-postrock-drone-doom-psychedelia-industrialized-dub-rock, I think this is a pretty good list, and not at all the heritage rock symposium DJM is fantasizing. A good showingfor both nu-freakfolk (Devendra, Animal Collective) and nu-pop (Annie, LCD, Vitalic!).

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

NO ! SELECT WAS EMAP

UNCUT sort of replaced VOX

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Arular at 50 makes me suspect vote-fiddling. That's just too perfect a backhanded slap at her hype.
-- gypsy mothra (meetm...), November 3rd, 2005

to-tally otm.

― piscesboy, Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think MIA showing in the 50 at all is the sign of two or three big fans rather than any kind of slight.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

It does stick out of the list like a mother fucker at #50. If you don't mind my saying so too.

Knut ? Those are friends ! What is happening to my town ? Is this why I'm here too ?

UNCUT sounds like a fine title for a homosexual publication.

― blunt (blunt), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

I got my tip-off on the Arcade Fire from Rough Trade shops rather than Pitchfork, and it's still a mighty impressive record, even if it is strictly speaking a 2004 release.

This list could have been a lot worse - I'm just grateful the likes of Animal Collective, Ariel Pink, Boards Of Canada, Doves, Elbow etc are actually there amongst the more predictable bores.

The most ridiculous selection is Bob Dylan at 3 (and I say this as a Dylan fan) - if this collection of 'unreleased' material is a new album for 2005, why is the Judee Sill record considered a reissue? All Bob has done in 2005 is to tour (as he would anyway) and give an interview to Martin Scorsese - he has not released any new material!

The number of shocking omissions continues to rise each year too. I guess it's too much to hope for the likes of Acoustic Ladyland, Matthew Herbert, Bill Frisell, The Bad Plus, Polar Bear, Jackson, Jamie Lidell, The Books, Patrick Wolf, Four Tet, Sleater Kinney, Mu, Sage Francis or Roots Manuva to be included. Yet, even if we accept Uncut uncritically as a trad/country/rock publication - no room for guitar pop records as brilliant as New Pornographers' 'Twin Cinema' or Teenage Fanclub's 'Man Made'? The Broken Family Band? Magnolia Electric Co.??!?!?

They've also completely ignored some of the best singer-songwriters of the year. No room for either of the Bonnie 'Prince' Billy releases, Erin McKeown, John Prine, Okkervil River (significantly better than the broadly similar Bright Eyes record), Smog, South San Gabriel, M Ward, Vashti Bunyan (which they gave five stars!!) and much more.

I'm not averse to the rock canon - and will happily listen to Springsteen or Dylan. Yet I really want to read a magazine that allows me to do this whilst also enjoying the diversity of new music in 2005.

I'll no doubt compile another list this year (I love it really!) - but it won't be written before Christmas.

http://www.inleaguewithpaton.blogspot.com

http://www.unit-hq.com

― Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

At least there's no room for Coldplay!!! Rejoice!

― Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

Amount of records I own off that list - 0 (!)
Amount I'd be interested in giving an ear to - not as many as I'd expect from a 'best of year' list
Amount of music I'd buy right now if the internet didn't exist - fuck all???

― Worst song, played on ugliest guitar (fandango), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

actually, Daniel, smog is on that list. as for Matthew Herbert i don't think he'll be on anyone's best of lists with that record he just put out (and i'm a fan) - maybe with the Roisin record. this list is more than decent.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

In recent years it has depressingly got worse Americana overload and the same dozen rock museum pieces from 60s/ 70s front cover shuffled.

True. But in fairness they still have more good writing than all the pubs we write for combined.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

the national isn't even the fifth best album of the day it was released. and i'm assuming there's a very good reason i had no idea that paul weller and robert plant released new albums this year.

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

#11 is so not #11 of the year, it's all hat and no caballero

other than that, a LOT of these records have just been mentioned on the "name yr top 3 of the year" thread, please nocomplaining about Uncut being So Totally Behind The Times Compared With Us Geniuses At ILM

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

>actually, Daniel, smog is on that list. as for Matthew Herbert i >don't think he'll be on anyone's best of lists with that record he >just put out (and i'm a fan) - maybe with the Roisin record. this >list is more than decent.

Aagh - my mistake on Smog, although the point I was making still stands!

The Roisin record is massively inferior to Plat du Jour - it has all of Herbert's qualities for intriguing sounds and samples, but they are subsumed within a quasi-sophisticated wine-bar sheen. Still, I would agree that it would be surprising if Plat du Jour made many lists - The Wire perhaps?

― Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

oh dear that "actually, daniel" made me sound like a patronising twat, sorry.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

quasi-sophisticated wine-bar sheen

Have you ever seen Róisín Murphy? There's nothing quasi-sophisticated wine-bar about her.

Anyway, seems pretty pointless to me to do a year-end list at this stage of the year. Who are Black Mountain?

Also: wot, no Total 6?

― JoB (JoB), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

Out of Daniels's list of omissions, I wrote v. fav'r'bly about Jamie Lidell and The Books - as well as Shortwave Set, Field Music and Isolee - all of which I voted for on this poll.

As a contributor, I might even provocatively suggest that Uncut has the best wide-range reviews pages of any major US or UK mass-circ print magazine today!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

Does that mean it's the most democratically bland ?

― blunt (blunt), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

I mean for a supposedly dadrockmag, it has a pretty adventurous reviews section.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

The two bands that I'm surprised that didn't make this list from the UK are Bloc Party and Sigur Ros. Dylan/Stones/Adams is quite out of place I think, but have yet to hear them.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 4 November 2005 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost
oh reviews, okay. I don't really read those !

― blunt (blunt), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

Did the UK annex Iceland?

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

Who are Black Mountain?

Druganaut

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

side project The Pink Mountaintops - check out "Can You Do That Dance?" more poppy-dancey.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

haikunym otm, I'm surprised people are up in arms about this list at all.

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 4 November 2005 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

As a contributor, I might even provocatively suggest that Uncut has the best wide-range reviews pages of any major US or UK mass-circ print magazine today!

I wouldn't necessarily argue with that, and it's a big reason why I still read it. But it would be great to see some of these albums that are positively reviewed getting a bit more coverage outside the reviews section.

― Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Friday, 4 November 2005 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

oh dear that "actually, daniel" made me sound like a patronising twat, sorry.

Not at all - I probably looked like a twat for getting all self-righteous about an omission that was actually in the list!!

― Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Friday, 4 November 2005 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

dylan should be in the rereleases, ffs.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

it's like saying 'apocaplypse now redux' is a '2001' film.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

I have nine, off the two lists.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

I have 13. Only about 3 of them would get in my top 20 though.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

There are exactly two of my top 15 for the year in that list. I am appalled and slighted

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

The Josh Rouse and Espers albums are awful. (I used to really like Josh Rouse.)

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

44. Kraftwerk - Minimum Maximum

This is the only one I've heard out of the new releases. It is effectively a reissue though, cos it is all old songs.

5. Various Artists - Hearing is Believing: The Jack Nitzsche Story 1962 - 1979
13. The Fall - The Complete Peel Sessions 1978 - 2004

I have got these two too. Neither have been fully digested, excellent though they are.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

When's the Babyshambles album officially out?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Nov 14. No killer, all filler.

― JoB (JoB), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

the list is...like all voted lists. neither bad nor good, it is probably better than an ilm list would be

i dont really like albums that much. i think it would be good if magazines did a top 100 songs of the year instead

im glad to see comus in the reissue bit, and i didnt know there was a jack nietzsche compilation just come out, i might get that

i think a compilation best of would be good as well. as we know, most great music never came out on longplayer. it would be good to see more 1910-1940 era music, in these charts

― terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

xpost OK so that's my album of the year.

I've slagged Pete off enough over the year to be able to say "Actually, this is a great album" in a non-predisposed fashion.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

the lenfox has spoken (xpost)

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

i just did show all details and found out who tezza is... i also note that david bowie adorns the cover of uncut. i think i'll need some weak tea to recover from the shock.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

1. who are The Nastional?
2. I agree no cause to be "appalled" at this list. Seems like a typical Uncut year-end list to me, perhaps slightly better than the last 2 years' lists. I suspect people are getting worked up about mainly because it's the first mag to put one out.
3. They'll probably have Aerial in their 2006 list.
4. JtN is right that the Uncut reviews section is wide-ranging and probably the most comprehensive, certainly the only reason to read it in the newsagents. Mojo's reviews section is also pretty good but their features and CDs are better than Uncut's so I'm more likely to buy Mojo.
5. I own 4 of the Top 50 plus the Comus.

― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

*National*

― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Where the f*ck is Broadcast in there? and Marc LeClair? Other than that, it could be a lot worse...

― antihero (antihero), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

no ladytron?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

No St Etienne/Go-Kart Mozart/Rachel...

but Uncut usually do more than a top 50. I'm sure these were all just bubbling under. zebedee is right that this is lots better than the last couple have been.

― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

i wld say that mojo reviews more weird shit than uncut - they actually have a kind of 'out' column every other month

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

No Goldfrapp seems a surprising omission - did it get a bad review?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Barney Hoskyns gave it 3/5 and said it was "no Black Cherry" (which he'd also reviewed and gave 5/5 to, back in tha day)

― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

fair enough then. how to explain the absence of 'Tender Buttons'?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

I gave it 3/5 and said it was a bit thin :/

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think maybe JtN contributed Broadcast and Ladytron and St Etienne. and was pretty happy with them. I thought Gwen and GA might have conceivably snuck in this time too.

x-post! ah

― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

3. Bob Dylan - No Direction Home: The soundtrack - The Bootleg Series vol. 7

Gumph!

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I gave it 3/5 and said it was a bit thin :/

but if this is what stops albums making the list, how to explain...pretty much all the other albums in the list? ;)

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

clearly whinging about the absence of the shortwave set, broadcast, the superimposers, etc, is enjoyable sport (maybe it should be considered for the 2012 olympics) but i can't imagine how it could come as a surprise to anyone despite the indisputable merits of each. the staff at such mags surely spend more time dreaming of a lucrative columnist's position at the sunday telegraph, and extended lunch appointments with will self, than they do entertaining the idea of championing any record which has not been reassuringly endorsed elsewhere. there is no value in sticking your neck out here. it may after all get chopped off.

the shortwave set - album of my (and many others) year. uncut not being on board does not make it any less magnificent.

― edgar, Friday, 4 November 2005 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

i am probably most surprised by the rolling stones. it's totally inexplicable, isn't it? i can understand the motivation behind dylan.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

UNCUT sounds like a fine title for a homosexual publication.
-- blunt (blunt120...), November 3rd, 2005 7:09 PM.

BEING UNCIRC'D MAKES YOU GAY? OMG!!

― rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

the staff at such mags surely spend more time dreaming of a lucrative columnist's position at the sunday telegraph, and extended lunch appointments with will self

This is Jerry the Nipper all over. Except substitue St Leonards Bugle for Sunday Telegraph and Bob Carolgees for Will Self.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

own and enjoy 7.
own and don't enjoy 1 (but approve of lcd soundsystem in general).
own and haven't got round to listening to 2.
want to hear a further 3.

a decent ratio, i think.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

which 3 do you want to hear?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

27. Bruce Springsteen - Devils & Dust
46. Paul Weller - As Is now

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

27. Bruce Springsteen - Devils & Dust
46. Paul Weller - As Is now
3. The Band - A Musical History

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

dur

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

it really seems like something close to what the pfork list will be, but subbing a few dadrock choices for a couple of hip-hop records and Dominik Eulberg

― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

cocorosie, john cale and richard hawley, actually!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Edgar both OTM and wide of the mark. you never read of anything first in uncut; even the guardian are quicker on the uptake. also OTM re the injustice of the shortwave set"s "the debt collection" not battling it out with the majesterial arcade fire at the high end of any sensible person's year end shake down.

can't imagine any of the craggy illiterates hacks holding down a conflab at lunch with will self tho. the menu (and the bill) would most likely be a struggle for those overly reliant on the stockpot.

― bill the roof, Friday, 4 November 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone actually read will self? i ask as a former fan (and interviewer).

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

the cocorosie is quite good Lex, tho 'more of the same' i suppose. actually i can't remember much of it, i just remember liking it on first listen.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

oh so predictable white boy indie-rock cds with only a few items that don't fit that category...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

― curmudgeon, Friday, 4 November 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Blimey, I own 16 of that 50. Hooray! for Ry Cooder at #11 (Chavez Ravine love conspicuous by its absence on ILM, ah well, suit yerselves), Huh? for the Stones at #6, and Boo! for excluding Broadcast, and anything at all from Africa.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Cooder's Chavez Ravine got dissed on ILM somewhere, plus I read some negative takes on it elsewhere. So while I was initially curious about it, the negative concensus discouraged me...

Uncut has no African releases, nothing in Spanish except for the Ry Cooder, no Isolee(Philip Sherburne's fave 'electronica' effort), no pop-country,little hip-hop, no Caribbean(reggae or soca)...

― curmudgeon, Friday, 4 November 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

i can't believe Touch left Broken Social Scene off their end of year list!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

BEING UNCIRC'D MAKES YOU GAY? OMG!!
-- rentboy
I DUNO!! IF RENT BOYS SAY SO? OMG

― blunt (blunt), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

"Touch" proclaims itself the "original UK Urban music magazine" so I would not expect it to cover Broken Social Scene, Uncut does not billitself that way.

― curmudgeon, Friday, 4 November 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, it bills itself as the mag for people who like Bowie, Arcade Fire, Orange Juice, Kate Bush, Terry Gilliam, John Hiatt and Siouxsie. And last month, Springsteen etc. What's your point?

― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

It proclaims that it is featuring the "best music of 2005," and its list of the best music of 2005 has "no African releases, nothing in Spanish except for the Ry Cooder, no Isolee(Philip Sherburne's fave 'electronica' effort), no pop-country,little hip-hop, no Caribbean(reggae or soca)..."

My point is that they define "best" in a very narrow way. Get my point.

― curmudgeon, Friday, 4 November 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

COCAINE DEMENTIA!

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

yay espers, even though that record officially came out in 2004. they shoulda counted the weed tree instead.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah...lists like this are weird for people like me who would include maybe...20-25 electronic albums in my top 50 of 2005, and at least 5 key hip hop releases. Are there really 45ish guitar-based albums worth owning in any given year?

Also, Babyshambles would make my top 10, easy.

― paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

The Uncut 50 has nine albums in common with my 50 (thus far; there are some late runners still to be considered) plus Anniemal was in my 2004 list.

I mean for a supposedly dadrockmag, it has a pretty adventurous reviews section.

Hmm...A Bigger Bang gets Album of the Month/five stars/the "stunning return to form" treatment. Very adventurous. Also Aerial getting Album of This Month despite a three-star review. Presumably if Uncut had gotten the interview instead of Mojo two extra stars would have been duly added.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Saturday, 5 November 2005 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/135/3049/640/sour%20grapes.jpg?

― Carcello Marlin, Saturday, 5 November 2005 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

where is your fifty going to be, marcello?

― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 5 November 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

marcello go 4 a list using rateyourmusic.com

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 5 November 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

So "Anniemal" was UK released in this year? Cool, that means it can up there for me, although I still have loads of stuff I want to hear.

― Nick H (Nick H), Sunday, 6 November 2005 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

It got a UK release in Summer 2004, but then quickly withdrawn from sale and rereleased this year. The original issue calls Heartbeat "My Heartbeat".

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 November 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

I have only ever read on Will Self book. I prefer him as Bernard Bresslaw.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 7 November 2005 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

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