Three Greatest Dub Albums

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
I'm sure this has already been done but whenever I go looking I'm overwhelmed by the diversity of opinions. As I hope to be now.
So 3 greatest dub albums - and make some of them recent ones.
Please.
Thank you.

Ned T.Rifle, Sunday, 6 November 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Burning Babylon - Garden of Dub

King Tubby and Prince Jammy - Dub Gone 2 Crazy

Phase Selector Sound - Disassemble Dub

lesserevil (lesserevil), Sunday, 6 November 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Yabby You King Tubby's Prophecy of Dub
Keith Hudson Pick A Dub
The Upsetters Super Ape

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 6 November 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Lesserevil: You thought that Phase Selector Sound was one of the greatest dub albums ever? I bought that on a trip to New York on the recommendation of the counter guy, and I've never enjoyed it except when stoned beyond functional. I've tried to sell it over and over, but no one will take it. I didn't know that anyone else ever bought it!

js (honestengine), Sunday, 6 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

the only one i know and love is ub40's present arms in dub. i'd be intrigued about some other good dub albums.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Sunday, 6 November 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"Present Arms In Dub"? Oh my god, if you like that, prepare to have your mind blown, as a magical world awaits.

I'd second the recommendation for "Super Ape," although it's sort of an oddity in some ways in that it's more a heavily dub-influenced avant-garde record than strictly a "dub album" - but who cares about labels; it's genius.

My vote for the best dub album is "Earthquake Dub." It's from the mid-70's and was reissued recently on the Hot Pot label - should be easy to find. Bonus tracks too.

Any of the four (especially #3) "African Dub Almighty" series are great - #3 is the one that the Slits, Clash et al are listening to on the bus in Don Letts' "Punk Rock Movie," and there is a CD series that pairs 1 + 2 and 3 + 4. These (as well as "Earthquake Dub") are Joe Gibbs / Ossie Hibbert related.

I also love the Revolutionaries' self-titled album, the white one with the picture of Che Guevara on the cover - wonderful stuff.

Those Prince Far I "Cry Tuff Dub Encounter" albums (most of which are now on CD) are mighty fine too.

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link

my fave dub album is definitely Mad Professor's "Dub Me Crazy". any of those early 80s blue and yellow cartoon covers he had are great. the one w/Patto Batton is excelent and the one with Jah Shakkah is cool.

also love the On U comps (better than any of the albums i have). i got a box w/In Dub Daze, The Dread Operators and a Party of Dubbers & Toasters. all three are pretty impressive non-traditional dub.

jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that Joe Gibbs cd "No Bones for the Dogs" album? In any case that would be one of my picks.

Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown

Can't think of a third of that magnitude right now..

Bn1 (Bn1), Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Ranking Dread - In Dub
King Tubby - Dub Gone Crazy
Another vote for the African Dub Almighty series (although NB the producer of these versions was actually Errol Thompson rather than Joe Gibbs himself)

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

".... and make some of them recent ones."

Recent releases, no problem: recent productions however....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Love this one:
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf500/f578/f57864cxuox.jpg

the souljazz studio one comp is great too.

willem (willem), Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

for recent dub maybe check out Tied & Tickled Trio (Observing Systems) and of course (though entirely different from other stuff on this thread) Villalobos, Vladislav Delay (Luomo, Uusitalo)...

willem (willem), Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

(another vote for) Keith Hudson - Pick a dub
Vital Dub - Well Charge (dubs of most of the Mighty Diamonds' 'Right Time' LP)
Lee Perry - Dub Triptych (smart move, I get 'Blackboard jungle dub' + 2 for the price of one choice)

Just this monute I'm listening to The Skatalites 'Heroes of reggae in dub' which deserves an honourable mention.

Niall, Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Just get Lee Scratch Perry's Arkology.

And that Augustus Pablo album mentioned upthread.

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link

and I guess my third pick would be the Yabby You collection on Blood And Fire.

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I've always been a little underwhelmed by that Augustus Pablo album, despite its legendary status.

Lee Perry Arkology box set seconded and Mad Professor's No Protection for more recent stuff.

Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I've always been a little underwhelmed by that Augustus Pablo album, despite its legendary status.

ditto

jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

My top three is somewhere within this:

From "Version Therapy" in the February 1995 issue of The Wire.

21 Dub Salute: guaranteed boom shots

1. Herman Chin-Loy * Aquarius Dub (Aquarius) 73
I have MP3s but nto a CD copy (out of print) available in Australia, but shipping is $17!

This is one of the first ever dub recordings, the sound is fantastic and full, and they version many classic rhythms here including “Jah Jah Dub(1),” a super heavy affair that preceded the more famous “King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown” version. Cross-genre hunters and break-fiends? Also a lock. Check out the version of Donny Hathaway’s “The Ghetto” called “Oily(2)” or Dennis Brown’s cover of “It’s Too Late Baby” called “Rest Yourself(3).” I heard they also use bits of “Heavy Duty(4)” on the new Jaylib album, if that’s of interest to you. The whole thing is like this. It might sound a bit sparse at first, but shake it off and let both sides ride a few times. You can only hide from these albums for so long- it’s like being a funk collector and not owning any JBs records. 10 tracks total.

2. Lee Perry * Blackboard Jungle -- reissued as part of Dub Triptych.
3. King Tubby/Bunny Lee * Dub From the Roots (Total Sounds/Moll-Selektra) 75

Now this is a real find. I was browsing through Virgin's fairly large reggae section when I discovered this. I don't usually buy anything becaus they're overpriced, but at $20.99 for 2 discs and instant gratification, it was a steal. I've been looking for these albums since Barrow's article came out in '95 when he ranked them #3 and #5 on his top 21 boom shots. What threw me is that he listed them under Bunny Lee's name, who was the producer. However, the actual album sleeves credit only King Tubby, the engineer, and ultimately the one responsible for the dubs.

Tubby remixed hundreds of songs for Bunny Lee from 1973-1975. Most appeared on B-sides of singles. But these two albums were his first that took the cream of the crop and engineered them specifically to flow on an album. And check this out -- Bunny Lee's house band was none other than The Aggrovators (Robbie Shakespeare, Carlton Barrett, Ossie Herbert, Augustus Pablo and Aston Barrett).

On first listen, I've heard a few cuts before, and they're definitely some of the best dubs, including John Holt's "A Love I Can Feel," "Man Next Door," Cornel Campbell's "Queen Of The Minstrell," and Johnny Clarke's "Rock With Me." The Rosetta Stone of dub indeed. The liner notes claim Tubby was the singular pioneer of dub, first applying the technique in 1968. There are conflicting accounts of this, and though Chin-Loy's Aquarius Dub and Lee Perry's Blackboard Jungle Dub came first in '73, these are essential.

4. Clive Chin * Java Java Dub (Impact) 72 or 74
5. King Tubby/Bunny Lee * The Roots of Dub (Total Sounds/Moll-Selektra) 74
6. Errol Thompson/Joe Gibbs * African Dub All Mighty (Gibbs Record Globe) 75
7. Keith Hudson * Pick A Dub
8. Maurice Wellington * Dub Me Baby/Morwell Unlimited Meet King Tubby's: Dub Me (Morwell/Blood & Fire) 75
9. Augustus Pablo * King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
10. Harry Mudie * Harry Mudie Meets King Tubby In Dub Conference Vol. One (Moodisc) 76 - just picked this up at Dusty Groove. Love the use of strings, no wonder he's the Barry White of dub.
11. Jo Jo Hookim * Vital Dub Strictly Rockers (Well Charge) 76
12. Yabby U * King Tubby's Prophesy Of Dub
13. Tappa Zukie In Dub
14. Augustus Pablo * Africa Must Be Free By 1983 (Rockers International) 79
15. Sonia Pottinger * Treasure Dub Volume One (HighNote) 77
16. Trevor Leggo Douglas * Leggo Dub
17. Prince Jammy * Jammies In Lion Dub Style (Jammy's) 78
18. Clement Dodd * Juk's Incorporated (Forward) 78
19. Michael Campbell * African Anthem Dubwise (Cruise) 79
20. Jah Screw/Ranking Joe * Dangerous Dub (Copasetic) 80
21. Horace Andy * In The Light Dub

More:

Horace Andy * In The Light Dub (Blood & Fire) 77
Glen Brown & King Tubby * Termination Dub 1973-79 (Blood & Fire)
Burning Spear * Garvey's Ghost (Dub)(Mango) 76
Creation Rebel * Historic Moments Volume One 1977-1978 (On-U Sound) 78
Creation Rebel * Historic Moments Volume Two 1979-1980 (On-U Sound) 80
Creation Rebel * Dub From Creation (Hitrun) 77
Dub Syndicate * Pounding System (On-U Sound) 82
Impact All-Stars * Forward The Bass: Dub From Randy's 1972-75 (Blood & Fire)
King Tubby * King Tubby's Special 1973-1976 (Trojan) 89
King Tubby * If Deejay Was Your Trade: The Dreads at King Tubby's 1974-77 (Blood & Fire) 95
King Tubby * Dub Like Dirt 1975-77 (Blood & Fire)
King Tubby * Dub Gone Crazy 1975-1979 (Blood & Fire) 95
King Tubby & Soul Syndicate * Freedom Sounds In Dub 1974-76 (Blood & Fire)
Augustus Pablo * Ital Dub (Trojan) 75
Lee Perry & Upsetters * Heart Of The Dragon (Justice League) 75
Lee Perry * Revolution Dub 1974-1975 (Lagoon) 75
Lee Perry * Kung Fu Meets The Dragon (Justice League) 75
Lee Perry * Upsetter In Dub 1974-1979 (Heartbeat)
Lee Perry * Super Ape (Mango) 76
Prince Jammy * Jammies In Lion Dub Style (Jammy's) 78
Yabby U (Vivian Jackson) * King Tubby's Prophesy of Dub (Blood & Fire) 76
Yabby U (Vivian Jackson) * Beware Dub (Prophets/ROIR) 78

And for newer stuff:

Rhythm & Sound with Tikiman * Showcase (Burial Mix)
Massive Attack v. Mad Professor * No Protection (Circa)

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link

That pretty much tells the entire story (although a couple of collections may have come out since then that have superceded some of these things.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 7 November 2005 06:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Not mentioned yet: Rhythm and Sound's "See Mi Yah", which is the best thing they've done under the R&S moniker.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 7 November 2005 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link

If we're allowed recent comps rather than sticking to original LPs, then by some considerable distance the best dub collection you can get is :

1) King Tubby and Friends - Dub Like Dirt (Blood and Fire.) All Bunny Lee productns, but engineered by Tubby,Philip Smart, Jammy etc.

2) Scientist Wins The World Cup (Greensleeves) would have to be in my top 3 - melodies like bubbling liquid on top of some cracking riddims.

3) Yabby You Meets Michael Prophet : Vocal and Dub. (Reissued by Blood and Fire as 'Dub It To The Top'). Involves Tubby and Hugh Mundell also.

There's some stuff I need to get on that Wire list like Dub From The Roots/Roots Of Dub, also the Jojo Hookim set - I wonder if that's been rereleased?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 7 November 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm no expert when it comes to the old stuff, but Dub Trio's record from last year (Exploring the Dangers Of) is GREAT. Huge basslines, not a lot of chank, sick sick drumming, and the production on the studio tracks is beautiful.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

max romeo - war ina babylon [very songy, less experimental/production-dominant than a lot of what's been recommended, but its totally beautiful]

the congos - heart of the congos [perry's darkest, swampiest production; all the songs are biblical]

scientist - scientist rids the world of the evil curse of the vampires [best "kitchen sink" dub album i can think of, lots of creepy sound effects and shit]

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Doctor: the Hoo Kim was reissued as part of that big Front Line reissue seies five years ago or so. It's still around, I think. It's mid price. It's very good.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

if you're looking for somewhere to start, this wakes me up every morning, is less than a fiver and packed full of goodness:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000B29D/026-6797581-3844447

bought Super Ape on the recommendation of, er, something (oh, knowledge magazine) and wasn't immediately enthralled by it but it has grown on me a bit. i also have a couple of those Blood and Fire compilations (X-Ray Music etc) which are good as long as you can get over the fact that you're giving money to mick hucknell...

koogs (koogs), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I just got War Inna Babylon last week, and was underwhelmed. I tend to enjoy the darker dub stuff, and a lot of what I didn't like about that album was the same thing that bugs me about a lot of Horace Andy stuff: too much tinkling, upbeat, happytime music. Maybe I just haven't given it enough time (and I really like more than a few songs on there) but it just wasn't the classic that I had heard it hyped as.

js (honestengine), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

> i also have a couple of those Blood and Fire compilations (X-Ray Music etc) which are good as long as you can get over the fact that you're giving money to mick hucknell...

If it's any consolation I doubt anyone's getting rich off B&F - neither Bob Harding, Steve Barrow or Mr Hucknall.

Niall, Monday, 7 November 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Errol Brown and the Sky Nations Band - Medley Dub
courtesy http://permanentcondition.blogspot.com/

Brakhage (brakhage), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think any reggae reissue labels are exactly cash cows, but B&F and Pressure Sounds especially seem more like labors of love than anything else.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

> I don't think any reggae reissue labels are exactly cash cows, but B&F and Pressure Sounds especially seem more like labors of love than anything else.

Exactly. I would say that Motion also falls into that category.

Niall, Monday, 7 November 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Definitely, and the comment about Mick Hucknall should be countered with the knowledge that Mick only contributed start-up money to B&F - I'm not sure if he ever even asked for it back. Despite one's opinion of Simply Red, this was a swell thing to do and has brought the world dozens of roots & dub reissues that meet a high standard. It should be noted the label is struggling in the face of fierce competition from less generous and caring labels (such as Trojan.) Pity there aren't more Mick Hucknalls, IMO.

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Is Trojan more or less unfriendly lately now that they are Castle owned (that's a recent thing, right?)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Yabby You King Tubby's Prophecy of Dub
Keith Hudson Pick A Dub
The Upsetters Super Ape

I want to switch out one of these and put in King Tubby Meets Harry Mudie, except it's impossible to decide which to eliminate!

oops (Oops), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha I don't think I can even decide which Mudie dub disc to pick!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

notice how i didn't specify a volume

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha cheater!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

> Is Trojan more or less unfriendly lately now that they are Castle owned (that's a recent thing, right?)

Since Sanctuary bought up Trojan they seem to have made a bit more of an effort to be adventurous with their reissues. Sure they've kept rolling out the usual 'best of' comps, but they've also put out some much less obvious stuff that the old management would never have countenanced, e.g. 'The birth of Trojan' & Blue Cat retrospective albums, Nyahbinghi box set etc.

If by 'unfriendly' you're referring to whether they're any better at paying artists that the Trojan of yore, I couldn't say.

Niall, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah the latter was what I referring to.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link

**Doctor: the Hoo Kim was reissued as part of that big Front Line reissue seies five years ago or so. It's still around, I think. It's mid price. It's very good. **

Hey thanks Tim! You know I was sure that I'd seen it around. Will look again.

**i also have a couple of those Blood and Fire compilations (X-Ray Music etc) which are good as long as you can get over the fact that you're giving money to mick hucknell**

There's a great Hookim dub on X-Ray Music, 'Moses Dub' - not sure what it's a version of as I don't recognise the vocalist or song, despite feeling that I *know* it.

Three more, if I may :

Niney The Observer - Sledgehammer Dub. (Motion) Sparse and spartan, a bit forbidding at first, but a real grower.

Scientist - Dub in The Roots Tradition.(Blood and Fire) Earlier than the World Cup/Vampires/Space Invaders stuff, this is quite different, maybe even better. Don Mais productions, Roots Radics play, mixed at Tubby's. I love the way that Scientist chisels away under a horn melody or a vocal, building the tension until it caves in on the riddim. My favourite track on this is 'See A Dub Face' - version of Horace Andy's 'See A Man's Face', but it's all great.

V/A - Studio One Dub.(Studio One) You might think that this isn't going to be all that good, but it's a real surprise. Sylvan Morris and Mr. Dodd himself did the mixing, I think and they really did a great job. It ranges from basic, but haunting versions of the likes of Studio One standards like 'Truth and Rights', 'Bobby Bobylon' 'No, No, No' etc to some really unusual stuff like a great version of Delroy Wilson's 'Run Run' (Studio One version obv, not the Keith Hudson remake).

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link

People Who Only Listen to Dub and No Other Reggae C/D?

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

People doing what they feel like doing: classic.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

People doing what they feel like doing: dud.

So how long till some sparkling wit comes along and posts a "Three Greatest Dud Albums" thread?

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link

great thread. the only dub album i have is the augustus pablo/king tubby one (meets rockers uptown). according to this straw poll, i may have gone wrong.

Mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link

"King Tubbys Meets The Rockers Uptown" is a stonkingly great LP, I think. "Wrong" is wrong, I think. But there's certainly a lot more.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"King Tubbys Meets The Rockers Uptown" is the single best introduction to dub I know of. That's not the same as saying it's the best dub album of course. Tho it very well might be.

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

The best dub album has yet to be made by a long way....most dub albums don't go far enough in adding in sampled sounds.

The Scientist albums (Vampire, World Cup, Space Invaders) promise a lot going by their covers, but don't go far enough in adding in horror film, football, and videogame noises.

Even Lee Perry's work I don't find quite eccentric enough.

Soft Cell's 'Tainted Dub' is more like it.

(heretic rant over)

Having said that, I do listen to a lot of dub myself.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been listening to a lot of Lee Perry dub recently and he isn't "eccentric" most of the time, he's incredibly subtle and un-gimmicky

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

So have I. I've been finding that Arkology set a bit hardgoing, to be honest. There are some great songs on it (I love the Max Romeo ones for example), but too much of it is to me like subtle variations on a theme.

I've got a Prince Jammy tape - Osbourne and Uhuru in Dub - where he really seems to be delighting in the play of echo and surprise. And in Augustus Pablo's 'King Tubby meets Rockers in a Firehouse' there are a few tracks where it catches fire.

But most dub to me sounds a bit routine and not experimenting enough.


Bob Six (bobbysix), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I particularly like Forward the Bass: Dub From Randy's. Or I did last time I listened to it.

I have the Vital Dub CD - somewhere.

Who likes UMOJA SOUNDS? I keep meaning to listen to it properly. Also the JA-MAN album(s)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Agustus Pablo Original Rockers

Burning Spear Garvey's Ghost

The Upsetters Super Ape

m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"The best dub album has yet to be made by a long way....most dub albums don't go far enough in adding in sampled sounds."

What a weird way to rate dub albums?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

No quarrel with any of the classics listed above, but let me put a word in for my favorite underrated dub album, STRICTLY DUB WIZE (1978) by Dennis Bovell aka Blackbeard. It is the most relaxing record ever made. On the more far-out tip, I also really like Scratch Perry's dub disc of The Congos' HEART OF THE CONGOS (1977). But yeah, pick any three of the discs listed on this page. If you don't like them, stop there - you don't like dub.

Jason Toon, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

But most dub to me sounds a bit routine and not experimenting enough.

This is all to easy to say 30 years after all the classic dub stuff was released.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Just a bit of consumer demand hoping to drive innovation in the market place...If I ever win the lottery, one of my first actions will be to hire a crack team of dub's finest to make the most playful dub album ever.

Just listening to Yabby You - Dub It to the Top, for the first time, which immediately goes into my top 3. I'm also favourably impressed with the sound quality on Blood and Fire - I've picked up so pretty quiet and muffled reggae cd's recently.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 11 December 2005 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Three digidub favourites:

Kit Clayton: Nek Sanalet
Nonplace Urban Field: Raum für Notizen ("Westernized Dub" off this record is probably my favourite digidub song of all time)
Dub Trees: Nature Never Did Betray the Heart That Loved Her (this is apparently by the bassist from Killing Joke plus a few collabourators)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 11 December 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I don't know if people know about this or not.

Drooone, Friday, 16 March 2007 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

That's pretty awesome.

Alex in SF, Friday, 16 March 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

lee "scratch" perry - super ape
scientist - that one about vampires
wackies dub - one of those compilations.

the next grozart, Friday, 16 March 2007 02:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Keith Hudson -- Pick-A-Dub
Augustus Pablo -- King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
King Tubby -- Dangerous Dub

I just got Keith Hudson's Nuh Skin Up, but I haven't had time to listen to it. Anyone heard of it? Any good?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 16 March 2007 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, I take it back. I prefer Lee Perry's Produced and Directed by the Upsetter to Dangerous Dub. Perry's source material seem more diverse, or at the very least, his dubs are more memorable.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 16 March 2007 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Dangerous Dub has a cool sound. it was early '80s, right? it's like the last moment in 70's-style production where everything sounded huge and awesome, right before things started going digital.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

It's Tubby's last dub album period, I think (although Scientist and maybe Jammy would still have few more.)

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd immediately reserve a spot for African Head Charge's My Life In A Hole In The Ground if I could call it a dub album, but it's more like an unintentional post-punk album(?) Whatever it is, it's my favorite album ever that can be described as "dubby"

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Same goes with Mikey Dread's African Anthem, for different reasons.

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think of MLIAHITG (or any AHC) as dub (although obv dub effects are used on the record, those tracks are all original productions.) By the same definition African Anthem isn't dub, but African Anthem Dubwise is.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

dubby original productions vs actual dubs done after the fact

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Actual dubs, although there are plenty of dubby original productions I love (including tons of stuff on the On-U stable.)

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, like what?

(i've been in the mood for dub lately)

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

The first five African Head Charge albums are awesome as is everything under the Creation Rebel and Singers & Players monikers. The first couple of Dub Syndicate albums are also good. If you like a steady dose of punk vocals (Ari Up and Mark Stewart) the New Age Steppers are also good.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

listening to some random african head charge on youtube now, i'm into it.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

original poster asked for some recent ones. only thing i can remember liking is Twilight Circus Dub Plates Volume 2. Wouldn't put it in my top 3, but that's not much of a slight. Any one else heard new jacks they like?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Not really. I have some decent enough Rootsman/Iration Steppas/Disciples stuff from the mid-90s, but that's not exactly recent and none of it's going to set the world on fire.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Popular topic haha:

Digital Dub (Iration Steppas/Disciples/Rootsman/etc other Jah Shaka disciples) S/D

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

the recent Trojan Dub Massive collections curated and mixed? by Bill Laswell are pretty good. not new material but if you don't have those tracks, both discs are great. the Orb's 2cd mix for Trojan is also super good.

Buy basically anything on Pressure Sounds.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess I have that Xterminator dub album which is pretty good, but I paid 50 cents for it so that may be coloring my thinking hah.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh laswell

eman, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah btw Ernie B's is having a Pressure Sounds sale right now. Basically everything is $10. Also if you order before 1/15 and put 10 Dollars after your name on the order you get an additional $10 off. So go to it.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

Uh oh, I've fallen into a deep dub hole and I can't get out, nor do I want to.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 30 January 2025 18:26 (yesterday) link

haha, same since i started reading Veal's Dub book.

gneiss, gneiss, very gneiss (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 30 January 2025 20:51 (yesterday) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.