let' s have a chitter chatter about Paul Schutze

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cos he seems to be somehow under recognised or out of favour at the moment even though his worst stuff is alright and eno / hassel only made a couple decent albums together and angelo badalamenti shoulda done some gamelan

― bob snoom (vestibule), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

i just got "nine songs from the garden of welcome lies" it's fantastic creepy/pastoral cusp zen drone & clatter - abysmal evening maybe abysmal tho.

― bob snoom (vestibule), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I've only heard New Maps of Hell but I really enjoyed it -- best use of Dune samples outside of Eon.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Used to love his stuff, but went off it majorly. When I try to play it now I find it has none of its former magic. I swear CDs don't last forever. It's not me changing, no, no. Why isn't it possible yet to back up one's euphoria or feeling of being deeply moved alongside the music itself? But I digress. I'll take the two Phantom City releases and run away with them anytime, but those ambient First, Second, Third Site releases? Gack. I didn't think much at all of his installation at the Hayward Gallery a few years back either. Whatever he's up to now it's not registering on my radar. BTW Eno/Hassle? They've worked on a lot more than a couple of albums, I think the last being the brilliant City: Works Of Fiction.

― 11V, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

New Maps Of Hell is the record I put on when I am feeling unwell - works perfectly for that moment when a virus slows up your metabolism and dampens the senses.

I also bought one of the follow-up records, Site Anubis but it doesn't quite work in the same way, and has too much aimless ambient-jazz noodling for my tastes.

― Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

"site anubis" i thot was well wickid despite having the lergied hand of laswell squelching unpleasantly in the background. Hassell's "City" i don't think has any eno input & sounds pretty frickin ropey for it with those clumsy fairlight stabs & casio rapman noises.
Schutze still can't do melodic / chordal development & passes that off as "atmospheric" / ambient which y'know kinda out of vogue maybe cos people figure how absolutely mortifying easy it is to do yrself on a laptop these days - most definitely "apart" suffers from this.
his record as SEED is very very good tho i still listen to that

― bob snoom (vestibule), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Well you get City or you don't. Clumsy? Nah. Eno had some involvement, though not acknowledged on the CD. He mixed the City band when they played live, very briefly in NYC. JH is godfather to one of BE's kids and they're longtime friends despite the illfeeling surrounding My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts.

― 11V (11V), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I bought way too many Schutze records, he does what he does extremely well; disorienting microtonal textures over fragmented rhythms, but over time they get very samey.

I had about ten, I've sold all but these four:

the one I still return to is Apart, first CD uptempo, the second CD space

http://coverart.last.fm/300x300/3573.jpg

New Maps of Hell & New Maps of Hell - The Rapture of Metals are the early breakthrough records and they're good too

Site Anubis is a successful attempt at taking his sound and applying it to a live band -- very 70's Miles Davis, I should listen to this one again.

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

I agree with Snoom that the attempt at urban production on Hassell's City really missed

But as for Apart sounding like it was easy to make -- it's a weird thing, because he's definitely one of those musicians who evolved a very recognizable, specific sound over albums, getting to the point where making them had become perhaps a bit too easy... but I hear a lot of work & detail in his sound that just is not there in most electronic music

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Never much cared for disc 1 of Apart but disc 2 was the soundtrack to my bachelor pad drifting/snoozing for months on end. Still love Second Site - it's the intonation. You couldn't move in Vinyl Exchange in Manchester for cheap Schutze CDs at one time; me and a chum hoovered them all up. I think I got the better ones (i.e., not New Maps or Absymal)

Didn't Laika pay (or get Too Pure to pay) him lots of money* in '97 to remix something off Sounds of the Satellites and were so disappointed with the results they didn't bother releasing it? (* - relatively speaking). Perhaps he'll Google himself and put me straight.

One evening, with the gals tucked up in bed, I'll have to listen to Isolationism in its entirety again and see if that ol' dark ambient magic comes a-rollin' back.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

Hey 11V, what was the issue between Eno and Hassell re: Bush Of Ghosts?

― sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

Giving New Maps a relisten for the first time in a long while...

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 03:47 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

Turns out the good man's on Bandcamp

http://paulschutze.bandcamp.com/

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:40 (twelve years ago)

I have really been loving the Laughing Hands/Invisible College box set that came out on VOD earlier this year.

― sleeve, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:50 (twelve years ago)

I bought way too many Schutze records, he does what he does extremely well; disorienting microtonal textures over fragmented rhythms, but over time they get very samey.

I had about ten, I've sold all but these four

^^ I still listen to those four and wish I hadn't sold the other six

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 17:46 (twelve years ago)

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