What do we think about Sam Cooke's Night Beat

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I just bought this tonight. Pretty damn good. It's like the soul In the Wee Small Hours.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

(also, I'm not sure how the original recording sounds, but somebody fucked up somehwere-- the tape hiss is awful. it's a 2005 re-master, too. not unlistenable, but, come on..)

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

ILM doesn't care about black people.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

It's easily one of my very favorite records. Sam Cooke is a god to me.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

I just have the standard Sam Cooke anthology, but Night Beat sounds great. Except for the tape hiss thing though. I'm also interested in the new Guralnick book.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

I like Sam Cooke's anything.

scout (scout), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

It's an amazing record all right. 'Get Yourself Another Fool', oh. And he was dead a year later. The greatest loss to music ever, no question.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

Incredible.

Steev (Steev), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

AAAAH. I just discovered this album and it's been ruling my world the last couple weeks. Displays a whole other side to Sam Cooke.

Don't miss Sam with the Soul Stirrers either. One listen to "Touch The Hem of His Garment" and you'll understand the charismatic power he had over audiences (as documented in the excellent Guralnick).

m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

I need to get that book.

Keith C (lync0), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Amazing record. I purchased the latest reissue too, and I haven't noticed significant 'hissing.' Maybe just me though. "lost and lookin'" is jaw-dropping.

Jam (1020am), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Surprised there's not already a thread devoted to this. Total classic. Interesting to compare it to The Wee Small Hours. I think In The Wee Small Hours is a great late night record when you're with someone else, while Night Beat is a great late night record for when you're all alone.

This and Live at the Harlem Square Club are two of the best records ever.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I downloaded it long before the 2005 reissue and it sounds great, no hissing. "Lost & Lookin'" is one of those songs that blows everyone away the first time they hear it, I think. Did he do anything else with this band?

Sonny, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I've owned Live at the Harlem Square Club for about four years now and love it. I've always wanted Night Beat but couldn't find it anywhere. So while it exciting that both have been re-master and re-released, it looks like others aren't happy with the re-masters. Dang! Any clue where I can get the not re-mastered Night Beat? Or is it really not that bad?

These Amazon reviews of both would seem to suggest the tampering is evident, especially with the audience noise on Harlem Square. I do like the new cover for Live at the Harlem Square Club although I had no problem with the old cover either.

Harlem Square comments:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B000AO4NJU/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/104-2534850-8824738?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=music

Night Beat comments:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000AO4NJK/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/104-2534850-8824738?v=glance&s=music&st=*

matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

the tape hiss is no thang... after listening to it for about five hours last night, it really only bugs you if you're sitting there listening for it. really. go ahead and buy it.

I like every track except "Little Red Rooster," which is kind of namby-pamby for the tone of the album... and i had no idea that Sam Cooke wrote "You Gotta Move." that's one of my favorite Stones tracks.

i realized last night that i'm way lacking in soul records, so i spent about two hours filling up my amazon basket haha. christmas is going to be extremely soulful this year.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 10 November 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)

"Night Beat" is amazing. This thread's inspired me to dig it out.

But...Sam didn't write "You Gotta Move." That'd be Mississippi Fred MacDowell, I believe.

dark Horse, Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

Also, I like the version of "Shake Rattle and Roll" for somehow underscoring for me the line I've never noticed, about "a one-eyed cat, peeping in a seafood store." Dirty, dirty, dirty.

dark Horse, Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

And "Night Beat" is indeed pretty perfect.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

my favorite soul album

oops (Oops), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

dark horse, my copy attributes "you gotta move" to sam cooke. maybe it's just that arrangement or something..

poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 11 November 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

kind of like how Let It Bleed attributes "Love in Vain" to Jagger-Richards ...?

Anyway, Night Beat is totally classic. I never noticed any sound problems (and I have the remaster) but I haven't listened in a while. I think I'll break it out right now if I can find it. Kind of a neat coincidence this thread was started yesterday -- just last night I heard a Sam Cooke track I'd never heard before that stopped me dead in my tracks -- his version of "Smoke Rings". I'd got up from reading in bed to go turn off the radio, when the DJ puts on this Cooke track and his voice just sounds so supple and amazing, just like the material on Night Beat. I really think even to this day the hardcore R&B stuff is a whole side of him that the majority of people, even big music fans, are oblivious to. but then, he was just so generally versatile, there really is not (or shouldn't be) one Cooke sound. I definitely want to pick up the new Guralnick too.. there was an interview with PG on chicago public radio this morning .. (skip to the one hour, 45 second mark in the broadcast)

anyway turns out this "Smoke Rings" track is on this The Rhythm and the Blues comp, which I of course put on order as quickly as I could today...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 11 November 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

what station were you listening to?

oops (Oops), Friday, 11 November 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

WBEZ

(that's how I knew they had the interview today; I didn't actually hear it this morning, but last night after they played the track, they mentioned they'd have Guralnick on in the morning to talk about his book...)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 11 November 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

But...Sam didn't write "You Gotta Move." That'd be Mississippi Fred MacDowell, I believe.

-- dark Horse (saint.boy...), November 10th, 2005.

I think you're right about Mississippi Fred writing a song with that title, but on my 1995 cd copy of "Night Beat" Sam is credited as the writer of "You Gotta Move," and I am not sure if it is the same song as the Mississipi Fred one--maybe it's an adaptation.

curmudgeon (Steve K), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Great record, but Big Joe Turner's verson of "Shake Rattle and Roll" tears Cooke's to threads.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

yea, Sticky Fingers attributes it to "Davis, Davis, McDowell." so, who knows..?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 12 November 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

Same song, different arrangement obviously - maybe that specifically is what Cooke is credited for (my version of Night Beat, like the others, doesn't say - it's just a Cooke credit).

Anyway - hear them both here:
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XQVEL7ZLTQLQ3FVBUCS5MVF7T

TRG (TRG), Saturday, 12 November 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
Just bought it used -- three tracks in and this is pretty great. "Lost And Lookin'" with only cymbals, bass and Sam!

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 26 February 2006 06:16 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...
happy birthday SC!

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

so, so good

marc h. (marc h.), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

a near-perfect album, Cooke's at the top of his game, with killer, sympathetic backing musicians (Billy Preston! Hal Blaine!) and great material... VH1 doc written by Guralnick was kinda boring though.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I got this about 12 years ago in a little coconuts or blockbuster music store in new orleans. It was instantly one of my favorite albums, but i listened to it so much back then that it no longer feels that special to me. And I never play it for anybody because I just assume that everybody knows it. It's a shame. Maybe in another ten years it'll sound like it used to

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Picked this up on eBay around 6 months ago, instantly ranked as one of my favorite soul albums next to Soul on Top and Here My Dear.

It's like the soul In the Wee Small Hours

otm.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

y'know I really need to hear Here, My Dear one of these days...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

does anyone else think it would have been better for cooke's voice to have been positioned differently? i'm not so sure about the 'being right next to the mic' thing.

The Atlantis Mystery Solved! (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

I dunno. It works for me.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:18 (seventeen years ago)

I like this a lot, but the single disc comp released in 2004 is my favorite Cooke.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

this + harlem square club on disc 4 of hte box set is like the best cd ever

s1ocki, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

Give or take "Shake, Rattle and Roll," Night Beat is one of those records where every note is perfect, and perfectly placed. The Band, too.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

yeah? i love "shake rattle and roll" closing this album out. has a nice "who cares" kind of feel to it after the darker (well, darker for sam cooke) songs that precede it ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:43 (seventeen years ago)

about the talk of the harlem sq reissue upthread - did anyone notice any real differences? i never heard it, but know that there's meant to be another verse in twistin' the night away, maybe, and king curtis' band intro. one night stand's like the best recording ever.

schlump, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 13:18 (seventeen years ago)

Mickey "Guitar" Baker's intro on "I Lost Everything" is beyond heartbreaking. That guy's way underrated.

Sara Sara Sara, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 13:25 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

One of the songs ("Mean Old World") from this popped up in shuffle last night as I was winding down towards sleep and stopped me in my tracks. Had to start at the beginning of the record and play it through to the end. One of the few records that any cut forces me to listen to the whole thing. Magical.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 July 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

love this album so much

has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

night beat is incredible, yeah.

ian, Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

nine months pass...

can't stop playing this atm

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 April 2011 10:41 (fourteen years ago)

If you grew up with his records as a kid, this would be a depressing addition. Not my favorite.

Castle Law! (u s steel), Sunday, 24 April 2011 13:19 (fourteen years ago)

really? why? i like pretty much all the sam cooke i've heard - this doesn't seem like a drop off in quality or anything ...

tylerw, Sunday, 24 April 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

this is an incredible record, u s steel is u s steel

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Sunday, 24 April 2011 15:25 (fourteen years ago)

One of my favorites, though best comes first ("Lost and Looking").

Four Shouters Shouting (Eazy), Sunday, 24 April 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

ten months pass...

fucking hell, when Sam starts singing 9 seconds into "Nobody Knows" I'm all goosebumps. This album has no right to be so good.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

"Nobody Knows" is my putting-a-brave-face-on-shit jam

Nultified Ancients of Man U (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

What a way to start an album! Sets the tone, and, except for the false bravado of "Little Red Rooster", it's the bleakest sing-along ever. As I said, so good.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

love this record. thanks for reminding me.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 11 March 2012 03:13 (fourteen years ago)

i like "little red rooster"! tho i can see how it is a little out of step w/ the rest of the album's vibe.

tylerw, Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

I love "Little Red Rooster" too. Just noting it's a curveball from the bleak trajectory.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 March 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

Love Billy Preston's playing on "Rooster" (especially the "barks"/"howls"), all the more impressive for the fact that was only sixteen at the time.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 March 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

so I have a vinyl reissue of this, and the lead off track is "Lost and Lookin", which I am baffled to learn is apparently not the standard track order for this record...?! Like one of the things I've always loved about this album is how the track order was structured such that there was a progressive addition of instruments - the first track is just his voice and the bass, the second track adds the drums, the third track brings in the piano etc. until by the end you have the whole hand and they're banging through "Shake Rattle and Roll". But apparently the first track is actually supposed to be "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen". Which completely changes the vibe of the album for me. idgi.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:20 (ten years ago)


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