this is the thread where you tell me all about acid house

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when people say "you like Section 25, New Order, Moroder, and Klein & MBO, so you must love acid house" what exactly do they mean?

― Dan Gr (certain), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

They mean "You are 35 years old"

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

well, that's neither true nor a very witty response.

what music is it they mean i should be digging?

― Dan Gr (certain), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Phuture - Acid Tracks

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

It's a kind of techno, obv., and if I know what I'm talking about, the name comes from the squelchy sound a Roland 303 Bass Synthesizer makes, and has nothing to do with the drug. 808 State is the big name, I think (and Newbuild's the big album), but a better bet might be picking up the TRAX Records comp, "Acid Classics" (the most important entity in house music since the Roland 303, apparently).

Someone correct me if I'm way off base.

― owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/release/19784

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

but does it all resemble the bands i mentioned? i know that acid house was a form of techno, and other basic tidbits. but i've never listened to any. does it sound like the 10 minute remix of "from a hilltop" or like "dirty talk"?

dan

― Dan Gr (certain), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

a little - you might hear some echoes here and there. 'Dirty Talk's wriggly hook was the sort of thing that cropped up in a lot of acid, just through a different box (303). same goes for Moroder's chugging, throbbing basslines. New Order/Arthur Baker's early 80s drum sounds came from the same (presumably) Roland kit that producers in Chicago, NY and Detroit all started using at that time.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Acid House sounds kinda like if you took Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" and fucked the shit out of it.

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

not to be pedantic (ok to be a little pedantic), but acid house is/was a form of house more than a form of techno, non?

― ZR (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

soul jazz has a very good comp of mostly early stuff, and the trax acid classics is really good too - there's a little overlap but not much.

― ZR (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Section 25 used the TB-303 on "From a Hilltop" in a kind of pre-acid way. Also they were on Factory Records which ran the Hacienda.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Acid House, at least in the early Chicago form, was a motion toward the more-futuristic/less-disco-ish sound of Detroit Techno.

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

But as my downstairs neighbor likes to say, "EVERYTHING is house music."

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

so aside from the trax comp and soul jazz one (which comp do you mean?), what artists/songs should i be looking for? i assume this was a singles (12") medium? what 12"s should i look out for?

― Dan Gr (certain), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

was it a homegrown label scene?

― Dan Gr (certain), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

when people say "you like Section 25, New Order, Moroder, and Klein & MBO, so you must love acid house" what exactly do they mean?

it means either they don't know what they're talking about or they think you'll like anything with a drum machine and synth.

http://www.discogs.com/release/140295

is a great CD from the era you can probably find used.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

soul jazz: Can You Jack?
it was your standard "local businessman rips off local artists" scene, so reprints are your best bet.

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

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― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

you know what's funny? I remember reading several articles from various dance music magazines in the late 80s/early 90s that claimed Acid was a reference to sampling, and other articles that claimed yes, it was about drugs.

Psychic TV's Jack the Tab, Acid Tablets Volume One, as well as the existance of "Acid Jazz" didn't help matters.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I second the Soul Jazz comp.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Genesis P-Orridge claim he invented the term "acid house" or something?

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

Search:

Maurice "This is Acid"
Six Brown Brothers "Battery Acid"
Jack Frost "Shout"
Townsell "Get the Hole"
Maurice Joshua "I Got A Big Dick"
Robert Owens "Living In A Land"
Dj Pierre "Box Energy"

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

Original acid house was a subgenre of Chicago house, but when American electronic dance music (techno and house, that is) spread into Britain, the term was used more liberally, I think. I'd disagree that acid house was motion towards Detroit techno, though. First of all, the two genres were developing at the same time (though there certainly was some interconnection, since Detroit techno producers often visited Chicago house clubs); secondly, I think acid house is in a way the most extreme, the most purified distillation of house's dancefloor dynamics and hedonism (the dancefloor highs and the lows being basically reduced to one sound, the 303 squeal), whereas Detroit techno, though danceable, was always more cool and detached, i.e. futurist in the ideological sense of the word (rather than practical, as with acid house).

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 10 November 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

yeah basically one day DJ Pierre was mucking about with an old TB303 and thought "this is a cool noise" and made "Acid Tracks". Then everyone started doing it and it turned into a genre of simple drums and acid squelches. Nothing to do with detroit whatsoever. Nothing near as calculated as the whole detroit manifesto. My personal favourites:

Professor of Acid - "Drug Store"
Phuture - "Slam"
Tyree - "Acid over" (oakenfold mix)
Phuture Pfantasy Club - "Got the bug"
Dr Derelict - "That shit's wild"

I always reckon the point of acid house is much like minimal techno - to get the full effect you have to listen to nothing but stripped-down basic acid records for several hours until the slightest variation leaps screaming out at you. The best comp for this is:

http://www.discogs.com/release/490591

Which is a 4-cd monster.

― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 10 November 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

That We Call It Acieeeed comp is pretty good. I loved Pierre's Phuture Pfantasy Club - Dream Girl and that S'Express remix back in the late 80s/early 90s.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Section 25, New Order, Moroder, and Klein & MBO though all have a structure to them like pop music (SXV, N.O. and Moroder for sure). Is there acid house that still pulls in this structure?

― Dan Gr (certain), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

last night I played Wee Papa Girl Rappers' Heat it Up, Adonis Chicago mix, which sounds like Adonis producing Neneh Cherry.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Really, Moroder and Klein & MBO are Italo Disco. That opens up a whole new portal for you.

― lukeeluke (soulex45), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

yeah, forget Acid House and start looking for the following:

Brand Image, Mr. Flagio, Gaz Nevada, Charlie, BB and Band, Scotch, DF and Pam, Vivien Vee, Digital Emotion, Cyber People, Casco, Kasso, Kano, La Bionda, Doctor's Cat...

but be careful...it's mostly crap!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

ROBERT ARMANI

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

sorry, i mean REMIXES OF ROBERT ARMANI

in the whole "take jacking chicago house and add lots of vertiginous analog trippiness to it" vein

i have "jack the tab," what a weird weird fucking record

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

the appellation "acid" has everything to do with the drugs, btw

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

emmanuel top - "lobotomie"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

Hey Dan, you might like a few songs I posted on the fifth YSI requests thread, though no one requested them. Tell me what you think of them,it's mostly disco.

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

What do people think of Acid Scout?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

i like 4 degrees, on disko b. it has a song structure, kind of like new order crossed with section 25, with just a hint of klein & mbo

― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone have any recommendations for stuff that sounds dark like acid, but is new, so it's a little more polished? I'm thinking like DJ Hell and Juan Maclean's "You Can't Have It Both Ways."

― Gavin, Friday, 11 November 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

when i was into "acid house" as a 13-year old wee bairn, i liked "acid man", "helyom halib" and "stakker humanoid" best of all

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Friday, 11 November 2005 04:09 (twenty years ago)

Did Jack the Tab ever get played in yer actual acid house clubs or was it more of a conceptual art piece?

― Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 11 November 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

I like to think MESH was a minor indie-dance hit, but I may be making that up. It sure cleared the floor the one time I played it.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 11 November 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

It's Psychic TV behind it, right?

― Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 11 November 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

Yes, with Dave Ball of Soft Cell/Grid and some other friends, I think.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...

The deal with Genesis, I believe, is that he had never listened to actual acid house but heard a record store clerk describe this or that band as being "acid house." According to the other guy in PTV, Richard Norris I think, they just liked the idea of psychedelic dance music, and, without actually ever having listened to real acid house, came up with "Jack the Tab," their own idea of what a music called "Acid House" should sound like. He has since recanted his claim that he invented the term.

― acid house, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 16:42 (twenty years ago)

he has also since acquired breasts

― wangdangsweetpentangle (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 16:55 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

So there is a documentary out about acid house called "They Call It Acid". Anyone see it? http://lostinasupermarket.com/2009/09/they-call-it-acid—the-story-of-acid-house-culture/

― cryptic jackassery (tricky), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

fixed link

― cryptic jackassery (tricky), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3504&Itemid=27

― jaxon, Friday, 25 September 2009 00:18 (sixteen years ago)

^awesome link

― electric sound of jim (original version) (electricsound), Friday, 25 September 2009 00:41 (sixteen years ago)

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